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Is It Possible I Have Ptsd?

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Criteria A doesn't make any mention of penetration being required to qualify, it's misleading to suggest that it does
We aren't actually disagreeing.

I wrote about the way the language is interpreted by some pdocs in some jurisdictions. The DSM doesn't require penetration, but the way the language is interpreted, some pdocs proceed on the basis that...

Forget it. It was about the language and interpretation. The OP called it sexual assault, which isn't necessarily correct, but can be interpreted as a requirement by some pdocs. I wasn't at any point trying to suggest that penetration is a requirement, or that it should be a requirement.
 
We aren't actually disagreeing.

I wrote about the way the language is interpreted by some pdocs in some jurisdictions....
Omg. It freaking WAS sexual assault. Are you trolling?
 
I wrote about the way the language is interpreted by some pdocs in some jurisdictions. The DSM doesn't require penetration, but the way the language is interpreted, some pdocs proceed on the basis that...
Threatened or actual physical assault.
Threatened or actual sexual violation.

It's not possible to interpret this any other way than it is written. Threatened - meaning, "almost happened". And actual, meaning "happened".

One could debate whether dry humping is physical assault or sexual violation, I suppose. But it unequivocally threatens sexual violation.

Someone grabbing my genetalia is at minimum, threatening a sexual violation, and at maximum, making one. The DSM (or ICD) does not relate to what the law in any jurisdiction might say.

Threat is determined through both the doctor's objective observation of the description of the event, and their subjective observation of the client's perception of the event. If the person experienced it as sexual threat, and it is clear enough that it was a sexual threat (go back to my grabbing genitals example), then it's a qualifying trauma.

It's more important to remember that not everyone with trauma develops PTSD. So, this is why the OP should be talking with a doctor about the whole picture of what they are both remembering and experiencing.
 
Ok by this "logic" as long as there's no penetration, it's not "sexual".

This is going to get graphic but I'm proving a point.

Hand jobs? Not sexual.

Fingering with no penetration? Not sexual.

Licking p*ssy? Not sexual.

Licking c*ck? (No oral penetration.) Not sexual.

I can go on in more detail! If need be.

Please go tell these docs who say penetration isn't necessary to go get a refund on the crackerjack box their degree came from!!!

I have never heard of anyone anywhere ever saying that penetration is necessary for sexual assault/abuse to cause PTSD!

I'm female HOWEVER this logic says "screw you men out there who were molested as little boys!" I guess their suffering doesn't count.
 
I guess their suffering doesn't count.

PTSD doesn't define suffering. You can suffer without PTSD so though I agree with you that molesting is sexual assult and all of those examples ARE sexual, if one doesn't have PTSD or do not meet the criteria, that isn't saying that they aren't suffering or invailidating that they are or the trauma/stessor they did have.

It drives me nuts when someone comes on here saying "is *this* enough for PTSD" and are told "well no because *this* doesn't meet criteria A which is required" and they come back with "i do have PTSD because I am suffering". There are MANY mental disorders that would fit and they would be suffering. Suffering can happen without a mental disorder.

So yes, their suffering counts with or without PTSD and with or without ANY mental disorder.
 
PTSD doesn't define suffering. You can suffer without PTSD so though I agree with you that molesting is sexual assult...

Oh good lord.

You're arguing the semantics of one statement that is a bit tangential to my argument.
 
You're arguing the semantics of one statement that is a bit tangential to my argument.

I am not arguing at all. I am stating that many state that like PTSD defines suffering when it doesn't. I agree with you that sexual means penatration only, as it doesn't.

It is not wrong for people to advise someone they don't likely have PTSD as said trauma doesn't meet the criteria. It doesn't invalidate anything. People suffer with or without it. It isn't invailidating them like their suffering doesn't matter. All suffering matters.

That's all I was stating as this happens A LOT on here. I was agreeing with you about the sexual stuff.
 
I am not arguing at all. I am stating that many state that like PTSD defines suffering when it doesn't. I agree with y...

Like I said, you're arguing the definition of suffering which has nothing to do with the argument. Do you have ADD? It seems kind of impossible to steer you back on topic.
 
Ok by this "logic" as long as there's no penetration, it's not "sexual".

This is going to get graphic but I'm proving a...
EXACTLY!!!

And I'm sorry but anything of that nature done by a 14 year old to a 6 year old is assault. Period.
 
I am not arguing at all. I am stating that many state that like PTSD defines suffering when it doesn't. I agree with y...
You just need to stop. Seriously.
You have already invalidated the incident that happened with "only penetration".
The OP asked a specific question about a specific incident and you are just grasping at straws now. Just. Stop.
 
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