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Looking For Other Police Officers That Can Relate.....

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I am a 16 year law enforcement officer and was recently diagnosed with PTSD, depression and I am looking for other officers that can relate to me. I am having to take a medical retirement, but I know that I am in desperate need of help. Knowing that something was wrong and has been wrong for a long time, I sought an answer and my answer was severe PTSD and depression. I can' t seem to find anyone who specializes in treating police officers with PTSD. I am desperate and I hope there is someone on this forum can help steer me in right direction.
 
I'm a police officer from Canada who was diagnosed with PTSD with the help of my family doctor and a full psychological assessment. I've been on the job for 15 years and am hoping to get back to work sometime in the future but unsure when that will be. I know your frustration about police not have an adequate support system. If I was an alcoholic, drug user or a war veteran then I know that there would be some help out there. Having been involved with homicides, watching someone take their own life before you and having someone attempting to take yours is wearing on the mind and body.
 
I am attempting a medical retirement from injuries I received to my back and neck in a tornado in 2010. My 3 yr old son and I were caught in a EF-4 tornado and were sucked out thru tbe driver's side window of the truck. My son was uninjured, thanks to God for protecting him and allowing me to be injured and not him.

I have been asking for help for PTSD symtoms for approximately 10 yrs. I was able to.go to a LE peer support training class for three days in August 2010. I had to write down all my traumatic incidents that had occurred in my life up to that point. I ended up with 3 pages of stuff, the majority being during my career and LE related. I was debriefed on one and the debriefing did help me some, but I have begun to go down hill since being placed on unpaid leave in November 2011.

I was diagnosed in December 2011 with the PTSD and depression. I filed a workers compensation claim with my employer but still do not know if it will be approved. My medical insurance, thru my employer, will expire the end of this month. I will.then go on my wife's medical insurance but it does not have a provision to pay for mental illness treatment. I won't know.if my retirement will be approved until sometime in February or later. So I am about to be unemployed law enforcement officer that can' t work and can't get treated for a problem that began in law enforcement.

I can't provide for my family and I think that has caused me more grief than anything else. It is my duty to provide for my family and here I am in a position that I never imagined possible. I want to get treated but can' t afford the expense. Unless my case is approved thru the worker's compensation board, I will not be able to.receive treatment. I have to find a way just to pay the bills. Mortgage, water, electric, child support, car note, fuel, food etc. None of the people or banks want to hear my problems and misfortune, they just want their money. But if I don' t get help, then strees of it all is going to get me.

I have about one good day a month, other than that I hide in my bedroom and try to sleep.as.much as I can so I am.not awake dwelling on it all. Why isnt someone willing to help police officers with this illness and not be concerned about the payment for the treatment. I am thankful our military vets for their service, but don't understand why police offcers can't get help like the VA offers to vetrans without having the ability to pay for it. Everyone wants the police to help them when they call for assistance, but when the police need help.and so.many of us do, we are turned away unless we have the money or resources to pay up front. It is a slap.and spit in the face to be rejected when you are seeking help and can't get it because you can't hold it all togethwe because of this illness.

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Wow you and I sound like we are one of the same. Currently I am being paid by WSIB in Ontario while dealing with my PTSD issues. It's 85% of my take home pay and I'm very grateful for this or I would be in some really serious financial problems. I travel seven hours return once a week to get PTSD counselling and am also doing a session over the phone. My psychologist deals with a lot of police officers and knows what he's talking about. Before I went to a counsellor who didn't specialize in PTSD treatment and they would give me that "Holy shit" look when I spoke about my critical incidents.

I can totally relate to the depression cloud that hangs over PTSD. My spouse had mentioned it to me that she thought that I might be depressed a few years ago and I didn't give much credence to it and thought she was blowing things out of proportion. Well, I think that she was right. After seeing what we see as police officers it starts to weigh heavily on your mind. I have had nightmares for a long time and just thought that was par for the course. And then I'd get little or no sleep but then all I'd want to do is sleep and isolate myself.

Shortly it will be a year since I have been diagnosed and off of work. I've been trying to see if there are any support groups for police officers but NO LUCK! Thank God I found this website because I don't feel completely alone reading what other suffers have to say.
 
I am glad to know you are out there, but very sorry you are having to deal with all of this stuff too. Since my last post I found a place that supposedly would treat me for PTSD/ depression. I walk in for evaluation and the first thing out of their mouth wasn't hello, how are you. It was "i need your driver's license and insurance cards". So I immediately think they are out only for the money from me and my insurance company. After meeting with the intake counselor and her having that disbelief look on her face, she ask me to.step out of room so she can call the doctor on call and decide on a treatment plan. After a few minutes I go back in her office and she says the doctor will only treat me if I go to a 5 day inpatient treatement for " stabilization". She said they would start me on anti depressants and they could tell if they were going to work for me over the 5 days. When I called her bluff and explained to her that I had worked as a state narcotics enforcement agent for the past 12 years and I was fullly aware that it takes 2-6 weeks to notice if anti- depressants are working or not, she said " well we can at least tell if you are allergic to them in the 5 days".

She then says that after the 5 day inpatient she was going to send me to intensive outpatient treatment for PTSD for 12 weeks and gave me the name of the outpatient treatment facility. So I leave her office and go home and try to come up with the money I will need in order to check in to the inpatient program because I am desperate for help. It took several days and I got the money I needed and went back to her office with my clothes packed and ready to head to inpatient. She had to do additional paperwork for me to check in. She explained again about inpatient treatment and again told me about going to outpatient afterwards. I was emotionally sunk between the visits and did not investigate the outpatient facility's program.

Upon leaving the counselors office and my wife driving me to the inpatient program, I decided to investigate for myself because I had that feeling we cops get that something wasn't right. I call the outpatient facility and ask if I could come for assessment and start outpatient program for PTSD without going to inpatient at this other facilty I was enroute to. The person I was talking to stated to me that the only outpatient program they have is for drug and alcohol abuse and they have no program for PTSD. Then tells me that the counselor I had seen who recommended the outpatient after the inpatient must think that I have a drug or alcohol problem. I explainwd to the person that I haven't has alcohol in 3+ years and that I have never done any type of drugs other than take my prescription drugs as directed and even then usually have medicine left over every month. So what was about to happen is that I was going into drug and alcohol rehab for diagnosed PTSD.

To say the least I am beyond pissed off!!!!. If I had gone it would have insured, even if I did heal from injuries and PTSD and could go back to work, that no one would hire me with drug/ alcohol rehab in my medical records. It would also keep me from getting life insurance policies in the future. I didn't go to inpatient facility after finding all that out but I have found another place that says they can treat the PTSD. I go for an assessment there today.

It is a crying shame that facilities will abuse people/ patients such as that and most of the patients do whatever is recommended by the healthcare facilities and doctors without doing any background investigation. It seems that some of the medical community here preys on victims of mental illness just to get a quick paycheck. That experience on top of everything else has me very skeptical about getting the proper help I need.

Its sad that when anyone in the public needs the police, the police are there immediately to assist however os necessary to protect and serve. But when the police need help, backs are turned and no when gives a damn about you and your needs for help.

I will be praying for you and all of those of us who are suffering from this illness.
 
I went to a clinic for awhile here in Canada that specialised in Trauma induced stress conditions. Their mandate was strictly the care for Military and Police Officers. Although I recognise that military and police historically have not seen eye to eye, in reality our jobs at its worst are very similar. It is our job to protect the public. So although I have never heard of a clinic specifically just for police, well, why not try one that helps military? You might be surprised how much they really do understand.
 
OMG excuse me if I laugh at the B.S. that you had over your assessment and treatment process! That's unreal! Pissed off, if that were me I'd be .......... Actually I'd probably just laugh at the situation and say "What the @#)*"

My problem isn't drinking either but I noticed that I was using it as a coping mechanism. If I couldn't unwind or sleep after a shitty incident I'd have a beverage or two. Then if that didn't work I was told by one of my coworkers that they use NYQUIL. So I had a dose of it and I guess it kinda worked. But then there was a time when I had a really horrible incident and thought "Okay I'll take two doses and get a much needed rest". Well that was a horrible idea! Now I know why they say don't drive or operate any heavy machinery after taking. My girlfriend asked me if I was okay and if I had been drinking.

To be continued....Just gotta drive 3.5 hours for my weekly session.
 
I also had to take medical retirement after twenty years. And you are correct it is very hard to find doctor's that are specialized in treating police officers. My recommendation is to do what I did I found the next best thing I went to a specialist that treated PTSD for the military.
 
Hi, I am a police officer in Ontario and although I personally do not have PTSD, i do have something to share. My girlfriend was emotionally and physically abused by past husbands. Things started to surface when we got together and now I am the guy dealing with the aftermath of her shell shock. In fact sometimes when we argue it triggers past abuse and I literally become the enemy.

I have recently signed up and saw your posts. I recently went to counseling for myself to help cope. The minute I tell him im a detective the guy starts asking for a legal opinion on another case he has involving consent sex between 2 teens! I mean here I am pouring my heart out and all the jerk sees is a 'police office'! I'm a human being for Fricks sakes!

Anyway just needed to vent!
 
Thanks for the venting. My therapist deals with a lot of officers and EMS. I know who you feel in both aspects and your partner as well. I had a shitty past with sex/physical abuse which is triggered with some of my investigations. My spouse and my family have taken the brunt of my PTSD issues. I didn't know how my problems would become their problems.



LoL I meant I know how you feel and not who you feel.

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I am not or have never been in LE but could not help but noticing your posts and seeing that there seems to be, or you all describe a certain kind of ptsd that comes with being in LE and that is not understood by all trauma therapists.

I was a victim of dv around 1980 It is so prevelant in my area, that after getting my masters degree, I ended up specializing in DV. Women would come in for services due to effects of domestic violence, and not only did I provide psychological counseling, I had to be up to date on laws and procedures of of obtaining PO's and the like. A high percentage of these women, although present for recent dv, ended up disclosing abuses previous to their intimate partner. Sometimes family violence or rape, date rape, minister, teachers, counselors, cops, family friends, etc. There is a very high burn out in listening to explicit material hour after hour, day after day. It did not traumatize me, but was nothing less than toxic at times.

I was also the female that co facilitated a batterers intervention program for abuser. I can say with certainty, I was disliked by abuser, (many victims were partners of cops.), some cops, magistrates, prosecutors when I informed women of their rights and the laws. (like getting assistance to get their clothing out of the house).
I was also well liked by the same groups for helping victims that they referred to me, sometimes relatives or family friends. Well liked by school counselors for seeing teens in school individually without pay (grant did not cover) so that young women abused in their home had an outlet. I started at $10 hr with no benefits and was single parent of 2 teenage daughters. Working at a shelter, exposed to lice, scabies, ring worm, etc. quite regularly. Did this for nearly 10 years-because I care.

After having an accident and taking time off of work, I asked my boyfriend to leave in the middle of the night when he wanted coddling over his job and insecurities and several hours of discussion. After gathering his belongings, he decided he wanted to go into my room and I said NO. He called the police. Long story short-I told them his stuff was by the back door and they could look in my room, but I would not give him/bf permission. If there was something he forgot, I would go get it or the officer could. The officer first thought I was somoeone else. Then I mistakenly told him I worked for dv and that is how he know me. So he beat me up, pointed a pistol in my face in front of my daughter, drug me from my home in the middle of the night with my pajamas falling off. Drug me head first down stairs banging my head and slamming it in police car, kicking me. My daughter called the prosecutor, who told him to bring me to magistrate after I received treatment at the hospital. The officer said the boyfriend did the damage. The magistrate scolded him but he is still working. I continue to have nightmares. I have attempted suicide. My arm is permenantly injured (on top of cervical disc herniation, stenosis, and head injury from accident). I later discovered he was an abuser of women.

I know this is not the behavior of all cops, but I cant get past this. There are other women on this forum who have experienced the same. I have never even had a speeding ticket. No voices were raised during this incident except by the officer, and there had never been any physical abuse. While I was being paraded around with my breasts and ass showing from missing buttons and draw string in pj, they left the boyfriend in the house with my daughter. He cleaned out my jewelry box, mostly taking things he had bought me and a few other things.

LE can be really good. I would never call the police even if my childrens lives were in jeopardy. My daughter, age 20, was nearly hysterical about what she witnessed. She is in law school and has been offered job in prosecutors office. She has chosen to work for public defender.

I am in no way discounting your work and what you have experienced. I hate this cop and every time I think of him I wish he was dead-and that is out of my realm of thinking. I have never been anything less that peaceful and non violent. If he was falling off a cliff and I could give him a hand, I would smash his fingers and give him a push. He has done this to many people. Two others on the same force just convicted of raping women. This is typical in my city.

I had no trouble being followed on occassion by an abuser. I thought that police had my back. He had my back alright, and I still have the bloody clothing to prove it.
 
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