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Loving Someone With Ptsd Is Emotional Abuse

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It plainly described an abusive relationship with a manipulative and unfaithful man who didn't really seem to value the relationship anyway - yet the poster was about to return to him and described these features of the relationship as PTSD.
No. That is not PTSD. People who have PTSD can be abusive, manipulative, self involved etc etc - that's not the PTSD, that's the person.

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I have complex PTSD and I do go and read and reply to supporters threads. And honestly, many of them trouble me. There seems to be quite a few that are abusive and there does seem to be a culture here to excuse? explain away? that as PTSD. Abuse is not ok and I don't care if you have PTSD or not.

I understand the OP is suffering and needs validation in their suffering. PTSD comes with enough stigma as it is without having to debunk certain behaviors that are often falsely attributed as PTSD symptoms. There are some amazing supporters that struggle to deal with actually PTSD symptoms on here and I know it isn't easy for you guys. The are some supporters though that I just have to shake my head. I think they believe that somehow if they can convince themselves it is PTSD and not the guy naturally being a total douchebag they are somehow less of a victim.
 
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I understand the OP is suffering and needs validation in their suffering. PTSD comes with enough stigm...

The fact that a good number of supporters--and not just those on this website--are in some way being abused by their sufferers, especially those with combat PTSD who tend to manifest symptoms differently, leads me to believe that there's at the very least some correlation there. Bottom line? Whether caused/influenced by PTSD or not, abuse is not ok ever, under any circumstances.

May you all find peace.
 
Hypervigilance (an arousal and reactivity symptom of PTSD) mixed with the negative and distorted thoughts of the cognition and mood symptoms, can lead to being overly critical - of yourself or others. Being overly critical, while in a PTSD rage meltdown, dissociative and/or flashback state, can lead to the put-downs, name calling, and other viciousness that most would call mental abuse. While in that state that is leading to the behavior? There is really not much that the sufferer can do to stop it, and I wouldn't consider it abuse.

It's what comes after, when they are no longer in a symptomatic state - my sufferer would normally apologize and try to figure it out, once he realized, or was told (if he didn't remember because he was dissociating as well), what he did - that makes the episode into either abuse or just that, an episode.

Once the knowledge for the reason behind the behavior is found, I do think that refusing to own your behavior, and your illness, moves on to using the illness as an excuse. Constantly striving to do better, to have a better handle on the symptoms of the illness, and actively working on it, keeps the occasional outburst understandable and forgivable.
 
I heard everything he said. "I've had a bad childhood." "I'm not sure I know what love is." "I have issues dealing with an...
Well he seems to be able to get help but, not everyone can. Some of us have the choice to get help and others like me have parents that deny anything is wrong therefore denying us help.
 
Hypervigilance (an arousal and reactivity symptom of PTSD) mixed with the negative and distorted thoughts of the cognition and mood symptoms, can lead to being overly critical - of yourself or others. Being overly critical, while in a PTSD rage meltdown, dissociative and/or flashback state, can lead to the put-downs, name calling, and other viciousness that most would call mental abuse.
- This is the best explanation I've seen of why my vet says the nasty cruel things he says to me when he's upset.

the occasional outburst
- If only it were occasional. Its daily. Often several times a day. Its exhausting to deal with.
 
that does not imply causation, nor does it here.

I realise this is somewhat upsetting for those with PTSD who do not abuse their partners but the whole "oh PTSD has nothing to do with abusive behaviour" is frankly just rubbish. Lashing out verbally is a very common symptom. And sadly, sometimes lashing out becomes physical. I'm not condoning it or even excusing it by saying its related to the PTSD symptoms but to pretend there is no causative link AT ALL is ridiculous.
 
Not all people with PTSD experience the same symptoms or respond to them in the same way. My main symptoms are nightmares, exaggerated startle response, and panic attacks. You know who has similar issues? My partner with anxiety. We understand each other and we make it work. Maybe if you lack the empathy to be with someone who has a mental illness, you should stay lonely. Peace~
 
I heard everything he said. "I've had a bad childhood." "I'm not sure I know what love is." "I have issues dealing with an...
I hear you and a special prayer for your healing. May God bind up your wounds.
 
Lashing out is not excused by PTSD, but I do think it is often a symptom. I used to lash out a lot as a kid because that is how I was brought up. I got into a lot of trouble at school and in other places because as soon as I felt trapped I did all I knew how to protect myself.

Now when I get angry I know I can be accusing and say upsetting things to my partner, as can he. I think the difference is that we are able to cope with it, we scream, get angry, say sorry, cry for a bit and move on. Its horrible at the time, but with effort it gets less frequent.

I am sorry you are in a situation where you feel it is abuse, and if you feel that way it is time to leave. Once you feel abused getting the trust back is very hard, and would take him accepting responsibility for his actions and being willing to get help.

A very late reply, but thats my 2 cents :).
 
There. I said it. You, me, we all subject ourselves to relentless emotional torment when loving someone with PTSD. We...
Good points. My late (by three months) husband had severe ptsd, and it degenerated into paranoid schizophrenia the last couple of years. It was rough, but I'm glad I stayed. Did my patriotic bit and all that crap.
 
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