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General Physically sick (constipation), when should i make him see a doctor?

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"You know, I think veganism might be the morally superior choice but I need to cook him something that he likes and maybe puts a little smile on his face.

I am not a fan of a purely vegan diet. I do not think that this is healthful... we have children, raising children vegan is dangerous... but then on the other hand I do think we are eating to much meat and adding something vegan to our diet cannot hurt. We have that veggie day and veggie of course would also be alright for any non veggie day.

So if you have a recipe, say for ghoulash or for chili or lasagna that is rich in fiber, helps against constipation AND tastes good I will be very happy to give it a try! Could you (if you decide to share one) please post in the recipe thread because I often go to this thread to look for a recipe... a lot of the women reading the recipe thread have a Vet who suffers from lack of appetite, eats junk food and could benefit from that too."

I began my vegan lifestyle strictly for the health of it, as I had much down time dealing with illnesses to think about it in the ER and while being pretty much bed ridden, but eventually learned of the moral aspect in how other living things are grossly harmed each day for my taste buds, and now that I've seen that, visited the farms personally, both big ag and individual, and lived on both sides of the fence knowing I don't HAVE to have animal products to be healthy and feel good, I can never go back, nor would I want to, so it's an equal amount of both health and morals in my world.

Unless someone has actually tried it themselves for any length of time, it's rather difficult for them to speak with any true clarity on how it will or will not affect them, much less someone else. It may work very well for some and be a complicated shit show for others. If you enter into each thought of it with an automatic response of, "Nope, that's not healthful.", then that's the mindset you'll likely keep and project of it until you actually try it and live the difference yourself, at least that's how it played out for me. It plays out differently for each individual based on circumstances, level of health, access to whole foods, kitchen skills, kitchen tools, etc.

I used to fight it tooth and nail, too, as I was strongly convinced it was simply some high horse hippy dippy bullshit that others were trying to talk me into just to go along with their fad diet choice of the day. I had spent lots of money on trying other things like weight watchers, jenny craig, supplements of every kind, etc., etc., to no helpful avail, so I chalked it up in the same category.

I simply wasn't ready to hear it, much less try it, until I felt I had no choice left via my body and brain rapidly breaking down from my other choices of the past 40+ years, so I totally innerstand the feelings that keep you from trying it beyond a dish here and there. I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm simply offering options of what I've found to have worked the best for me and sharing my direct life experience as a former junk food junkie and heavy Standard American Diet consumer myself. It almost killed me and greatly lessened the quality of my life for many years and my newfound vegan practices and choices flipped that script for me in the best of ways I never imagined were possible, thanks to what I'd been taught the rest of my life.

It may help to stop equating healthy food with alfalfa sprouts each time you mention it, if you do that in conversation with him like you have in this thread. If not, my bad for mentioning it. However, if that remains the only health food point of reference you choose during discussions, it will very likely always sound unappealing. I don't recall ever being exposed to any type of sprouts until I was well into my vegan journey, and even then I was still hesitant to eat them until I learned much more about them.

I remember my term of choice when referring to vegan/plant-based choices before I started actively practicing it was to call all the veggies "rabbit food". Then I learned many of the animals we choose to eat for supposed nutritional benefits also pretty much eat a vegan diet to maintain their own life, so I just decided to eliminate the middle man, so to speak, and simply get my nutrients directly from the same places they do.

As far as a vegan diet being healthy for children, even some of the big alphabet agencies now support that a well-planned vegan diet can healthily meet the nutritional needs of children. Emphasis on "well-planned". Just because something is vegan does NOT mean it's healthy. There's a shit load of vegan junk food, too. I have a couple friends raising their kids as whole foods plant-based vegans, once they were weaned from their mother's milk, and they rarely ever get sick, seem quite happy, and don't express feeling like they're missing out on anything when they're with their peers. Those are the folks I've learned the most from as they teach from a space of actually living it day in and day out.

I'll dig through recipes when I get the notion and share some in the other thread, in addition to the ideas I already shared there. Most of my cooking is done intuitively, but some of the recipes come in handy as a good place to start and to use as a guide. Keep in mind that I'm not familiar with specific recipes that relieve constipation, as you specifically requested, as I've painfully learned that's a symptom that requires ongoing mindfulness of each and every bite and sip I take, not just a dish here and there as all the other meal choices continue to keep backing up creating multiple issues.

Also, what tastes good to me may very well taste like crap to another, so there's that, too. I tried a lot of vegan recipes back in the day that made me gag. I found it to be quite a long learning curve in adjusting the various seasonings to my liking, and to the liking of my hubby who still eats animal products. Luckily, I already enjoyed being in the kitchen and have always had a love of cooking, so that helped big time. Best wishes for some fun to create, kind to the body, and tasty resolve in helping him figure out his constipation causes.
 
I agree with @Tornadic Thoughts on several of her points.

Not only are fruits, vegetables, seeds, legumes, and other plant-based sources of nutrients much tastier than "rabbit food", they are an essential part of a well-balanced and healthy diet. We learned about the "Food Group Pyramid" in school during the '80s, either from tv afternoon specials or cheesy cartoons, but even 30+ years later the game's the same: eat your veggies, too.

One of the other things I hear regularly is that nutritious food is too expensive, especially vegetables. Well, I hate to say this but you get what you pay for. On the other hand, if you eat nutritious food in a well-balanced diet, you actually save boku bucks on your grocery bills because you don't need as much food to satisfy your appetite as the processed stuff.

Fiancee's kid recently became a teenager, and they really do eat like "locusts going through a wheat field" (as my dad described my brother and I at that age). So she's freaking out about the massive increase in spending to feed the bottomless pit, considering big-box stores, extreme couponing, buying stuff on the expiration dates (some stores do a 50% discount on those), selling her own plasma, the usual.

The first month I seriously bought smart, and bought healthy, we cut our grocery bill by around half of what we usually spent. This included Publix and Walmart, but we also started going to Bravo (a Latin supermarket) for a lot of the meats and veggies at the start as well.

So no, eating healthy isn't expensive and it doesn't have to taste bad. Also, I noticed after the first month of scratch cooking that we weren't throwing out anything we cooked. The food got eaten before it spoiled, because it tasted much better than the processed food.

And yeah, there's a lot of the same artificial ingredients in vegan food products as with vegetarian and omnivore products... but if you make it from scratch, you have full control over the nutritional quality of whatever type of dish you make. Which means that if your vegetable dishes were any healthier, you'd've grown them yourself.

It's the same, regardless of what kind of diet you choose to pursue or why. I love vegetables as much as I love bacon, which is saying a lot. But while I know that some of the things I eat aren't the greatest for me, I know that I'm not being forced to eat it.

And like Tornadic said, what I enjoy eating isn't automatically what other people like. Fiancee's not fond of green bell peppers or japapenos but I do. Her kid's not fond of onions, they're like the vegetable version of Frank's Hot Sauce to us -- we put that sh*t in everything.

Jasmine rice is an excellent source of fiber, btw. You'll want Maharati or genuine Thai brands for best results, if you choose to try it.
 
I do not know how to put this. Do you all really think I make my husband eat junk food and stop him from eating veggies? I don‘t. Some Vets have poor eating habits. Ask @Sweetpea76 from this thread for example. Hers is like that.

Mine has a very stressful job, lots of stress from ptsd, comes home and wants some comfort food. I try to make him eat as healthful as possible, but he must like it... and he does not like alfalfa sprots (used as a metaphor for health food that does not taste good) or whole grain oats or spelt patty’s. He just does not like that. He just does not want anything that tastes boring after a long day of stress and work.

I am not opposed to veggies not at all. I love fresh veggies, but he happens to prefer candybars to lettuce. He used to overeat a lot which he now tries to reduce and with success... and he is trying to eat better but still his diet is not okay... and I guess he knows but he is fine with it. He wants it that way.

Plus there are times when he does not feel like eating at all and it‘s better he eats junk food than nothing than.

I am feeling crap because he has such a crap diet but there is not much what I can do about. I can only try and find things that are healthful while not tasting to healthful.
 
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I do not know how to put this. Do you all really think I make my husband eat junk food and stop hi...

Not at all, @Never_falter . There are times I still want to grab something from KFC instead of cooking at home, because it's comfort food. Or Entemman's or Dunkin Donuts.

Fiancee barely eats as it is, because of her partial-paralyzed stomach. It took me a while to get used to having the appetite (and cooking skills) of a Viking while out on "date night" with someone who can practically live on air.

She's very fond of comfort food, and junk food. Still is, to a lesser degree though. But she's able to eat a bit more -- when she feels like eating.

Some things I can't change about her, just like some things you may not be able to change about your Vet. It is what it is.

She works a full-time job at a medical office, and I'm essentially a work-at-home/Mr. Mom. So learning to cook served a few beneficial purposes, where PTSD is concerned. I learned an extremely useful skill, it gave me a sense of purpose, and it helped bring me out of my shell more. Plus... Who is this Jody you speak of? :tup:

I don't know if this could be applied to your Vet's situation, but I've noticed that cooking really gets a person into the "here and now" as a form of therapy.

I do know that Jody hates cooking. Just saying.
 
@Never_falter I don't think you force feed him garbage foods.

Actually the mental image in my head, looks something like.... (meant to be in humour. Sorry for my terrible German spelling.)

:shy: Honey, look. I've made a lovely healthy salad for dinner.

:bored: Nein!

:eek: But, it's good for you. And tastes güt.

:shifty: Nein! Ich will... Ein Stollen, schnell!

:oops: But that's a dessert. Wouldn't you rather have a nice boneless steamed chicken with veggies?

:cautious: Nein! Pfannkuchen! Ich will, ein Stollen und ein Pfannkuchen! Schnell!

:rolleyes: Fine. But don't complain to me when you get backed up later!

***Later. Grunting from the bathroom***

:meh: I told him so...


 
One last thing, and then I gotta commence shenanigans offline for a bit.

I still love junk food, and still eat junk food. My folks taught me how to bake when I was a kid: sweetbreads, cookies, cakes, muffins, rum balls, you name it. Dad used to make awesome crisps and fries in a wok-like deep fryer, which could also make pizza.

I didn't really start to learn how to cook until several years after college. Still ate junk food.

Just over three years ago, I forced myself to seriously learn cooking. Nobody helped me, nobody taught me, I just winged it. Two years ago, I met Fiancee and we both had fierce junk food habits.

About a year ago, I had to switch to unrefined cane sugar for sweetbreads. Two months later, I lost my sweet tooth and my junk food cravings. I can still eat them, and I still do eat them. But as my health improved, and Fiancee kept "encouraging" me (men really are simple creatures, food and sex, that's basically it) I ended up having to make my own junk food and sweetbreads.

Which, oddly enough, now gives me a potentially successful job opportunity.

So it's not as easy as it sounds, or as fast in progress. But there seems to be a connection between refined sugars and fats, and cravings.
 
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It’s obviously no substitute for going to get checked out (would he refuse to go if you just made him an appointment? Sometimes that does the trick), but you could try having him drink soluble magnesium on an empty stomach in the morning. You can purchase that right at the Apotheke in packets. That can help get things going. Also Flohsamen are something to consider. They’re slimy but can be mixed with orange juice or water. Once a day to regulate. I think any Bioladen or Reformhaus should have them. Unfortunately fiber in supplement form isn’t that common in Germany :/
 
@Hojay Magnesium actually helps lots with his constipation. He drinks a sparing water rich in magnesium and it makes a big difference and he takes a magnesium supplement from time to time. When he felt so „backed up“ lately he wanted to take looots of this but I told him I did not think it was a good idea to do this without asking a gp. What if magnesium is poisonous if you have to much of it.
He also takes a calcium supplement and I heard those two interact somehow and I wish he would ask a doctor before taking all kinds of supplements. After working out he sometimes drinks Isostar (an isotonic drink) and I am a bit afraid that he might overdose on minerals.
Mucofalk which has been suggested in this thread has Flohsamen but I am not sure if he can take it. The leaflet says one should not take it I one is bleeding. He sometimes hast bit of blood in his underwear, not much and when he had it before I was just hemorrhoids but I am not sure if he should take it without asking a doctor.
Shopapothekes Homepage on Mukofalc BTW says „If you experience constipation an being irregular for longer than a week contact a doctor“. What does „constipation longer than a week“ mean? Do you need to see a doctor when you feel a bit backed up for a week? What should people who always feel a little backed up do then, phone their doctor once a week? Or only if you feel really badly backed up for a week? Or only if you did not use the bathroom for a whole week?

@Neverthesame I love your German und this mental image in your head. „Ich will einen Stollen! Schnell! Sofort! Zackzack..“ LOL. But it is einen Stollen by the way. „Das ist ein Stollen“ but „Ich will einen Stollen“.
You are right by the way. It is a bit like this... and he loves Stollen. I can make Butteerstollen from lots of butter, flour, eggs, sugar and so on. It is yummy but I do not think it is to healthy. At least it has raisins.

@Cyberluddite Jody can make a soufflé. I am pretty sure. Have a mental I age of him in my head. He is a bit effeminate, he makes a soufflé everyday and eats it with Prosecco... while watching downtown abbey... but no he does not like to cook or it veggies. Explanation for everybody else: Jody is not my husband.
 
If he continues to eat junk then he'll continue to suffer, I know it's hard and it doesn't taste as good as all the junk food but it's worth it. Believe me, I ate junk the last 20 - odd years of my life, then I got pernicious anemia, then I got pre - diabetes symptoms, I was really scared.. then it was time to stop poisoning my poor body. It's his choice if he wants to keep on getting constipation and other health problems from eating crap. By the way, too much water can actually dehydrate your stool and flush out potassium and other electrolytes that you need to actually hydrate the colon. He should be having raw vegetable juices, starting off slowly, of course. Stress could also be making the constipation worse too.

Prunes are good for constipation.
 
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