Psyche And The Immune System

[Cthulhu]

Epigenetics are a really amazing field and something that partly explains accumulation of e.g. depression or anxiety disorders in families. We just get pre-methylized genes from our parents and therefore are prone to getting illnesses that are in no way a 'classically' genetical thing.

So far so good, but IMHO this is only one part of it. The other is that from the beginning of our life we watch our parents (and maybe other close family members) dealing with problems of all kinds. We hear them talking about things, good ones, bad ones, catastrophes, lost family members and so on. And we adopt their ways of thinking and feeling.

Apart from the real classic genetic things, which one has the greater impact on how our minds work? I don't know but think both of them are very important from my personal experience.

Beside individual and collective subconscious, in subconscious part of us there exist one more "sector" in which are placed files that possess something that is called familiar subconscious. This is something that we inherit from our ancestors through our genetics.

The text as such is interesting, but to this sentences I can't agree. Some studies on that subject would be very interesting- what happens to children who don't grow up in their families from the beginning of their lives, especially twins that grow up in different families and so on.
Without testing this one IMHO can't say if there is a pure-genetically component and if there is one, how important it is.

"That is why we often notice within family, for example, five generations of lawyers or seven generations of doctors or four generations of alcoholics, suicides, schizophrenics, divorces, etc."

I really don't think this is because of "subconcious genetics" but because of the fact that a e.g. traumatized parent is more likely to traumatize his or her children than a non-traumatized one or that a child growing up in a family of 6 generations of lawyers just is educated towards becoming one, too. Not just in school and so on but from the whole personal and social values one takes over from the parents and family in the childhood. From the hobbies and interests that are supported by the family, that are given very positive values and other interests that are disdained, maybe the interest of repairing cars in a family of doctors.
Often the easiest explanation is the right (surely not everytime).

Well, nevertheless this may explain some psychological parts of familiar illnesses, in particular psychological ones including stress-induced secondary organic illnesses.
But what if no one in your family has any of the organic illnesses you have? That's a matter of fact with me. We truly share our tendency towards depression and a light general "non-happiness" but all the other things that my body 'has'... No.

 

[Artista]

I agree there are aspects I can swallow and others that seem conjecture, not fact. It is quite interesting though that what makes familiar sense to me (my personal experiences with some sort of energy undefinable), is that I do think energy goes on. If there is a soul and it continues in another way... it still exists and the unresolved may be hanging about? (not like a ghost) Not that it is controlling, but perhaps has a nudge or instance of recall to a prevalent feeling?? I am just throwing it our there. I love discussions on how others perceive this or even completely do not.

 

[Artista]

Good old nature vs nurture arguments! I have seen with even my own children how some of their personality and ways of dealing appear quite built-in from day one, but they also are heightened or lessened by environment. Throw into that things we then experience at such various degrees... and well.... it sometimes seems a crap shoot how we successfully live this life! I appreciate the ability to search out resources to help me and the almost inner need to want to know more and more. Yet, there are things I often find myself wondering about.

My mother never came out and said things that happened to her, but those of us who know her, are pretty sure she had a terribly abusive childhood (possibly incest) and there are times in therapy I almost feel I am working on "her" issues. They do become a legacy in showing themselves unwittingly if they are never dealt with!

Also, I do believe it is a reason she became so ill and had poor health for most of her life. It was eating her up. She died of an auto immune disorder. Saddens me.. also makes me aware of the fact I want to face all my sh*t!! She didn't have the ability to do so and I really believe it was part of the undoing of her health.

When I came across this, I sometimes wondered, if her unresolved issues are tied into mine now and maybe I can make the buck stop here! At least in some ways. Life will always throw random things our way.... it's life, but if I can minimalize its affect on my kids.... I must try to stop that part of my family's legacy. Certainly the bad energy gets carried over... in behavior or maybe even ways we can not yet comprehend.

 

[Nishkaa]

My social worker/therapist believes I might have "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome". I've got different things going in, including the cysts (seems like travelling cysts, most notabley, I have problems re: breast cysts; but I seem to have them travelling in arms and legs). Also going through arthritis, my feet ache at night, restless, hard to sleep, as well as the rest of me gets tensed up and achey. I also get IBS, which is also very inconvenient (usually aggrevated by anxiety).

My jaw is also screwed up, TM, maybe, it creaks (probably cause I do clench my teeth), I can't open my mouth very far.
I sprained my ankle recently, might have had a slight fracture, cause I heard a "crick" and I also blacked out, loss consciousness and hit the ground, mild concussion. I don't feel terrible depressed or anything, but very fatigued, needing lots of sleep since that happened, can't stay up.

I can see how some of my symptoms might be a result of chronic stress, where the muscles tighten up. Maybe somehow some toxicity has build up in my blood. . . (cysts?). It's really hit me the past year or so, re the arthitic stuff (I'm 42). Calcium/vitamin D supplments help a little bit.

When I cry, I pay for it physically, sinuses, swollen glands, more fatigue. No HIV either. . . I haven't got the results back yet from my doc, on the other blood work yet, I did go a few months ago about some of this.

Maybe I'm dehydrated? Winter months now, and the indoor heating makes the air dry, need more water. . .? But when snow or rain is coming, I feel it it my bones.

I was a basically healthy person, but this is now 10+ plus of active and debilitating PTSD. . .?