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General Ptsd Sufferers Cant Feel The Love Emotion?

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Thank you Jem

You put a little smile on my face knowing that there is hope!

I have made it clear to him that he can not tell me whats best for me. I have told him that I love him with all my heart and that I am willing to walk by his side on this long journey.

I know there will be lots of ups and downs but I am prepared for that! I always tell him that "The joy & happiness is not the destination it is in the journey" and thats how I really feel.

Again thanks and lets keep it going :tup:

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We can love very much. In fact, because our emotions are so strong, we might even be able to love more intensely than before. The trouble is that there seems to be a gulf between those who have PTSD and those who do not. We are not the same.

It is like a sparkling jelleyfish and a beautiful dog trying to love one another Different language, different senses, different abilities to breathe in certain millieu.........

I have not found there to be much connection, truly. Usually it is me that has to fake to reach the other person and then I get pissed off. I fake for connection and then get pissed. I also get annoyed that it is always with a focus on fixing the one with PTSD. He should be able to exist with his PTSD if that is his choice. If a carer cannot accept a person with their PTSD as is, there is no reason to be with them.

I don't know your guy and your situation. I do feel sad for you, though. It's awful to have PTSD and awful to love someone with it. However, I will never be with anyone who wants me to change at all. That is my choice, at my pace, in my way. And in the ways I measure improvement. It may not be about loving someone, it may be about getting through three good days in a row, a tremendous feat that is not easy.

If I am with a carer, it will have to be with someone who stays out of my recovery completely.
 
Your insight is very helpful, OKRA and a very good reminder of what we sometimes can forget as carers. It's hard to explain it to someone who has no experience with someone who suffers from a disability.

For me, I get frustrated when I see my sufferer give up on himself because I start to take it personally as he is giving up on us. But it has nothing to do with us, I know truly. Yet I vent to girlfriends and get twisted in what that 'ideal' relationship is supposed to look like, despite PTSD.

I know to truly love him is to step away and let him deal at his own pace. It does me no good standing there saying, "You aren't doing what you said and set out to do." My girlfriends are telling me I'm unhappy. But I don't always feel unhappy..? Whatever, it is, it is unfair to him but also not fair to myself. ME not fair to myself. I know better. But he also makes promises and I jump before he follows through. Maybe the right path is stepping back till he follows through. Not rush so quickly to help when he needs to stand up first and on his own in order to feel worthy of this love he says I deserve.

I don't want him to change. I love him for who he is. A little overweight, a little hairy, super goofy, wise beyond his years, motivated, etc. But I do want him to be the person he wants to be and it is hard not to want to protect him from not just himself but everything that stands in his way... Sometimes that is even me for caring too much in the ways I know how which are very different than the ways he's accustomed himself to.

It's a very fine line and a very distinct balance of acceptance but taking care of oneself, and knowing within when to say "when".
 
I understand were OKRA is coming from, I really am not trying to change my Vet in any way, I fell in love with HIM... Even knowing he had PTSD. But I think that is the part that he doesnt get, he does not understand why I would want to be with him when in his brain he thinks I deserve someone better than can make me truly happy! But even though we have our ups and downs I love him with all my heart and I want to be In this journey with him. He just has to trust me and let me in!
I to like May1321 get frustrated when my Vet pushes me away! Good luck everyone! :tup:
 
Such an interesting topic....that emotional numbness has been on my mind a lot recently. I agree with what a lot of people have said on here about it. For those of us with PTSD, it is most definitely a defense mechanism. I explained it once to my support group leader about not wanting to even get excited or be remotely happy because I'm only setting myself up for disappointment. If I don't get happy, it softens the fall a bit. I've been wanting a relationship a lot more recently too and have someone I'm interested in but I try not to get too close for the same reason. I'm vulnerable and that is scary for me. If I detach some, then if and when the disappointment happens, it's easier to deal with. It's not so much that we don't want to love, but that we are scared of it, because we are always on the lookout for the next thing to go wrong. Then again, I could be totally wrong about that but it's been my experience at least.
 
Hello Missd84
Its nice to read something from the view of one that has this disorder, I want you to know that the person that tells you they want to be there WITH you in this long journey, really means it! I for one did not even know what PTSD was until I met my BF, And I have not stop reading about it. I have bought all these books, but I tell you there is nothing like this Forum! Im so happy I have found it! Even though I dont know if my Ex and I will ever get back I will still stay on this site because there are so many brilliant people on here!
Lets stay strong :tup:
 
MsPositive40,

I am glad that you make an attempt to understand what it is like to have the disorder. I think you do a great service to not only your sufferer but to you, because in the end, you have at least a knowledge of what he is going through and how that ultimately will affect your relationship. I'm glad that this site has helped you so much as a carer. I think it's fair to say we all learn from each other on here!
 
If I detach some, then if and when the disappointment happens, it's easier to deal with. It's not so much that we don't want to love, but that we are scared of it, because we are always on the lookout for the next thing to go wrong. Then again, I could be totally wrong about that but it's been my experience at least.
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miss84, this is understandable but with or without PTSD thats what its all about, Taking a chance on love. Its always a Risk. No one will ever know the outcome. The walls that people sometimes build around them to keep away the hurt also keeps away the happiness. Isnt that what most PTSD wish they can feel again? I know my Marine always says that He wants to geniunly feel happy again.
 
You're right, this happens to a lot of people who don't have ptsd. They might just simply be afraid of commitment. The walls do prevent true happiness and while we want to feel it again, it doesn't always come as easily. I struggle a lot with trust and hypervigilance (from being raped/abused) so one thing I've noticed is that I generally don't even trust myself or what I'm feeling so instead I numb, I avoid, I withdraw. I am not sure if that makes any sense or not but hopefully it does
 
Thank you missd84, we could never have enough knowledge... and I pray he will come back to me because I do understand so much now that I want to be there for him, for US...That is so true Prettysmile, with or without PTSD we will never know the outcome and we all do take big Risks on love!
its all a matter if that person it worth the trip!!! and my Vet is definetly worth it!
 
It's not so much that we don't want to love, but that we are scared of it, because we are always on the lookout for the next thing to go wrong. Then again, I could be totally wrong about that but it's been my experience at least.
this is understandable but with or without PTSD thats what its all about, Taking a chance on love
If I detach some, then if and when the disappointment happens, it's easier to deal with
I'm here again.

My first 'real' boyfriend forced himself upon me... even when I clearly stated my wishes... he told me that he loved me and that was what love was. I never had a boyfriend growing up, and at the time, I didn't have my parents or friends to go to, I was homesick when I met him and ashamed after all happened. My husband three days later sort of rescued me; he cared for me and treated me like I thought a MAN should. But he was detached having been military for 12 years. He never cheated, hit, or verbally abused me. The worst part is he tucked 100% of his emotions inside of him and didn't even let an inkling out till I was done. I wish we had known ourselves then how we know ourselves now.

Though I am past that day, I still wonder the same things... taking chances on more what "I feel" is love. We are no different from non-diagnosed to diagnosed PTSD. We all have the same fear about relationships especially as we get older. Many of my girlfriends just getting out of divorces feel the same way. That is the hardest thing for me about PTSD.... when it comes to relationships. WE ALL HAVE BEEN HURT. Though I understand and appreciate where missd84 comes from, I still have a hard time excusing my boyfriend for his 'excuses'. The only thing I know and believe at this moment about PTSD is that when there is extra stress involved, it makes it THAT much harder to be responsible in a relationship - that being - after all the research I've done, it is social 'norm' to be 'responsible' for each other. We tend to place that upon ourselves like being thin, or pretty, or fit, or having the nicest things.

No one owns their own feelings anymore, or understands that relationships are partnerships, not "you are supposed to take care of me" relationships, or "I have to take care of you". If someone isn't able to accept you for who you are, then I guess as hard as it is to admit "They just aren't that into you." That goes for accepting you for truly loving them in return. If my boyfriend is unable to even be a 'partner'/true definite = friend, then we are not capable of a healthy future. But then again, we are at the very most "friends" and at times he's not always the best one.

I know that my sufferer loves me very deeply... but he too wants a healthy relationship. I refuse to accept that "he" thinks I deserve someone or something better because it is his own guilt saying these things. "So be better" or at least show action you are working on it. He is a great person and has more qualities that complete me than even my last 5 boyfriends combined. The only thing he does not do is "be a boyfriend". So I've come to the conclusion, he's not my boyfriend. He's not ready for that. It isn't a fear of committment, and I refuse to let him slide on the fact that he'll get hurt again because the women that have hurt him cheated, were younger than 25 and still finding themselves, used, and took advantage of all the good qualities he does have.

His PTSD part relates to war. His relationship tacticts relate to his upbringing. He and I are not at war, and he states he wants more than what his family represents. And I will not cheat. But I also won't put myself into a position where the thought may eventually cross my mind. He needs to heal himself before he can even be ready to put himself into a serious committed relationship.That is PTSD. Me continuing to believe something that it is not is being blind and foolish and setting the kindling to despise him in the future - which he does not deserve.

I too have had to get myself to a point where I don't flinch when someone raises their voice to me. Where I don't cringe every time the song "You look wonderful tonight" comes on. Where I can believe that "sex" is not the only way to feel "love".

I feel sorry for everyone on here who suffers in relationships because I think people have gotten so lost in what relationships are supposed to be about from children to adults, from girlfriends/boyfriends to wives/husbands. We forget that relationships are about being with your best friend and your best friend accepts you for WHO YOU ARE. You are best friends. You are partners. You accept each other but still motivate the other.

My best friend? Is an astonomer. She's worked her rear end off to get where she is and that primarily means through many illnesses (and I swear she is a slight hypochondriac because of her mother's upbringing though I love both to death). While she was studying and doing thesis', I was a ski bum promoting concerts and hanging with celebs on vacation. I was a straight A student so I feel a little low compared to her when I am not traveling the world or vying for my title as Doctor... but it doesn't matter! We pick up where we left off. We support each other when we need each other and there is no score. Even though she has half the breath of a normal person, and I have to be prepared to stab her with an epi pen if we are out and she quits breathing, she complains yet still strives to make the absolute MOST of her life. She is my best friend because she doesn't give up. She doesn't give up on herself, on hope, or on me. And I have fun with, make the slight acceptions when we make plans, and live completely because SHE's chosen to live and I take no responsibility... she takes it all. She is one of my closest inspirations next to my father who has not walked a normal step in his life since the age of 5.

So, choose your battles but always choose yourself. If no one supports you, sick or healthy... move on. It's not worth the fight, but is the fight or love worth the chance??? A question we are all faced with sick or healthy, and maybe one we spend more time overanalyzing than the one to walk away when it is wrong.

(((((((SUFFERERS and CARERS alike))))))))
 
Wow! May1321
Every time I read a post from you its like such inspiration for me! You are so right in many thing you write. Especially the part of him not being ready to be a boyfriend. We try so hard to try and keep it together not realizing the other person is not probably mentally ready for that. Its so confusing some times, but when you sit down and think about it all Quietly, you can actaully start making sense about some things! Take care of You May1321 & everyone else in this Forum :tup:
 
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