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Jimmy1

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I joined my beloved Army in 1985.
Now when I joined I heard the old ' When I joined it was different than now, it was like ............', and it probably still happens today.

Anyway, when I did join, CPL's had a certain amount of 'flexibility' if you want to call it that. In recruit training they could push you until you collapsed. We also had a lockable room that the NCO's at the recruit establishment had the key for. It was used primarily for our suitcases and civillian stuff because everything in our room was military. If you answered back too much, you usually were invited in their for a little chat, one way. You feared the CPL's, and every other rank above it, even privates. You were a lowly recruit. You were also taught to respect your fellow recruits and if you screwed up excessivley you were 'fixed up' and given 'extra training' by them. You either got into line, or washed out.

If you did not have your room in inspection order, it was trashed. Your bed was usually thrown out the window and my platoon was on the second floor. If you consistently stuffed that up, the whole platoon had their rooms trashed, and you could guess what happened.

For the first six weeks you were not allowed to the local canteen or px, and then when you were allowed, it was for 5 minutes to get razors etc.

Your first beer was just prior to march out.

Then you went to IET, or your Initial Employment Training. There you still feared the NCO's and senior privates, even though you were a private, because you were an IET and had no job skill yet.
You had more of a social life, but it was still difficult.

Then you were posted to your first unit.
You were still a shit bag because you were new. You still had fear for the NCO's, and still even feared the senior privates. There things were settled with fists.

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Nowadays society has changed the way buisness is done.

A recruit has rights. You can't yell at them too much. They have soft drink and junk food dispensers in the foyer. They are allowed their mobile phone to call home after 9 pm at night. You can't even yell and dress someone down in private unless you have a witness.

Why, because of too many cry babies. No, it's society.

There is no longer the cain in schools like their used to be. Parents are not even allowed to smack their children here in Australia.

So we are face with a world full of delinquents who disprespect everyone and everything.

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Well thats how I see it.
 
don't you find when you get older you start hating on the younger generation? im 27 and I found a few years ago I started looking down at the younger generation sound like my father now might as well start saying back in my day:P
 
True, I suppose with my own children I just want them to do better. My second wife let her children choose for themselves from the age of 14 or 15. The eldest is only just deciding on a career now and he is 22, the second eldest left school at year 10, bummed about and now works as a janitor at Mc Donalds, and the last one failed year twelve, lives at home and has a part time job. They are only my step-children, but I wish I could have influenced them more.
That is why I am making sure my 15 year old is making the right choices and steering him in the right direction.

But, society has changed and given the younger generation more rights. Shit, kids can sue their parents now. WTF is with that.
 
and all these fricken icrap everywhere, everyone on their phones, im working at a recruit school right now and you cant get these kids to stop messing with their phones, I dont even carry a phone on me I use the one I have in my office at work...ok deep breath LOL
 
Yeah, but that's not the 'i' crap, that's manners. My phone goes to silent the minute I enter either someone else's house or any doctors surgery etc. If I were you I would make them put their phones on silent and in a box at the front of the room, or give them a warning that you will take them off them. None of them would have an urgent enough reason to have one. We didn't use them in the old days.
 
Life at all levels has changed and not for the better in may way to my mind. Shape up or ship out is something I agree with. Army or civilian life. For me many of the things I have worked at in my life require making decisions that will determine if we live or die. Pilot, boat Capt. to name a few.

Most people never have that kind of responsibility to deal with and therefore simply do not understand why you need to shape up or ship out. Hard training has it's place and gives the trainer the ability to find out if you can cut it.

The best instructors out there know when to push people and when to let off. I have done my share of flight instruction and have helped a lot of students who were having problems learning to land. The first thing I must do is gain their trust. There is nothing you can do to this aircraft I can not recover from, so kick back and relax and I will make this real easy to learn. As soon as they trust me it only takes about three landings for them to get it down.

Fear is a good motivator. Trust, respect, and dedication are also necessary components. There is nothing easy about taking young kids and turning them into reliable men.
 
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