Self Help, Without Va

[Deleted member 19292]

I did indeed watch the video, I don't see a correlation between the video, and what I am dealing with. I know I have left the military, even if it hasn't totally left me.

 

[Zipperhead]

Dude, you are asking for help, and when the guys offer advice, your response is doubt. Now I can really understand that. PTSD does create self doubt and sceticism, but, why bother to ask for help if you don't intend to heed the advice? There is allot in that video to think about. And even if you do feel it has limited value to you a simple "saw that, thanks" will go over allot better.

 

[Deleted member 19292]

Zipperhead, I've been treated like shit, since I joined the forum, just for asking a question. I do not have a negative attitude, any more than I have a positive attitude. If you had read the posts, I have indeed, followed the advice given. It is stated in the thread. I do not require, nor ask for, any sort of supervision, on a thread I have started. If you don't like my supposed "attitude", why bother responding? Get off my back, meathead, I'm doing this shit alone, have had a negative experience with members of this forum, that consider themselves some sort of appointed authority, and, yes, after all this, I may be in the least bit skeptical. Go f*cking figure. I was asked a question, and I responded to it, truthfully, and without rancor. Do me the slightest courtesy, and do the same, just on another thread.

 

[Ned]

I think you've tested everyone's patience to busting point, Bob. You're a troublemaker.

 

[Spock]

...Ah, maybe it's just me but I have PTSD, not "the crazies". PTSD is an anxiety disorder. "Crazies" is who knows...
Sarg

Here's the bottomline Bob: back to what Sarg wrote, life is full of stress. PTSD gives you less room to deal with normal life stress as noted in the Nic Fothergill video (why I referred you to it.) "Crazy" and "Insane" are not the issue. No matter how it might feel like that to you, that is not it, -IF- you have PTSD, which is why some folks here are speculating. If you are truly "crazy" than there is another complication, which is common.

Just a couple: many folks were in combat that already had issues, not PTSD; Many women assaulted, even raped in the military that have PTSD demons but not combat PTSD; Many folks had horrible childhood drama that caused PTSD but it was not combat related, they just happened to go into combat and may have stayed to develop combat PTSD or not.

If PTSD was a "crazy/insane" issue than you would not be able to get and hold a Top Secret security clearance and/or the investigators would be able to deny you that upon a diagnosis of PTSD, but they can't, BY LAW! They cannot even pursue the question, once you mention PTSD. They can only pursue crimes, violation off law, that you did because of bad decisions, poor chacrater, maybe because you ran out of coping mechanisms. PTSD doesn't do that, a person makes that decision. PTSD just has put us all in a position whereby we have less room for error, under normal circumstances.

So, although many of us make fun of it, we realize the difference. And we want to really destroy a STIGMA, which includes being "crazy" because that is incorrect as Sarg noted. You have valid struggles/problems like everyone else, which is why they're reacting this way. In every group I've been in there is a person who is so shut down there is nothing we can say to get a positive result. So eventually we don't. This forum operates like a therapy group which is driving the responses, online is the worse form of communication so it is raw. If you were in a VA group right now, the folks in the room would likely not be offering you any more options.

You haven't given enough symptoms or circumstances for anyone to offer solid advice. PTSD has common traits and common solutions. We all know them and see them across the board. Crazy folks with more than PTSD eventually go to a Pysch ward. Folks that chose denial, self medicate and become homeless & crazy (maybe). Those of us that have been in a Pysch ward have seen the difference and we know we are not crazy from PTSD. My pysch ward guards were in the National Guard and sheltered me (after seeing my mil ID) because the difference was obvious (they do it everyday) and they considered me family, cause I didn't act crazy.

Sorry, this is so long but this it is my last effort to try and connect the dots for you to why you are getting the reaction you see from the team. One of the best cures for this combat problem is a combat solution = MOTIVATION, a bitch but also what we lived off of in the military team atmosphere. We all kept each other in check. Our buddy would call BS. The folks here aren't being personal. They're pushing motivation because there is no other option at this point. You have literally become the guy in group we cannot help.

This is my perspective and my opinion. Everyone has a different perspective. It is a law of life. We all bring something different to the table. Not sure anyone else has anything left to serve you?

I'm sorry
ColA

 

[JarHed]

Hey Bob

Sorry that you feel like you've been set upon here. I don't think it was anyone's intention to do that. We all have issues here, it's why we're all here. So saying that, it does make us cynical, skeptical and all the stuff that PTSD brings to us as well.

I'm sorry that we can't seem to be more of a help to you, I wish we could. You've got to try to move forward somehow. That's all I really know. We all have to learn how to do that, all of us. We're more successful at it at sometimes than we are at other times.

The only thing I would add is this; You need an advocate if you have any hope of getting what you need from the VA. You can contact the DAV, VFW and others online just as you can post here. They will be glad to help. If not I truly hope you can find what you're looking for as far as help for yourself. Best of luck.

Jar

 

[Zipperhead]

Bob. Sorry, didn't realise I needed your permision to repond to YOUR thread. Maybe the epitath of Meathead that you have labled me wth explains that. What it doesn't explain is exactly why you seem impervious to advice. Simple advice such as

Dude, you are asking for help, and when the guys offer advice, your response is doubt. And even if you do feel it has limited value to you a simple "saw that, thanks" will go over allot better.

Your response to this simple advice?

Get off my back, meathead, I'm doing this shit alone, have had a negative experience with members of this forum, that consider themselves some sort of appointed authority .

I am not a self appointed authority. Nor am I a meathead. All I asked was that your responses be considerate of the people who have taken the time to respond to you. Well, we can all see how effective that request was;

Zipperhead, I've been treated like shit, since I joined the forum, If you don't like my supposed "attitude", why bother responding? Get off my back, meathead.

Might be time to suck back and reload there Bob. And while your back there get your head out of your ass.

 

[Sarg]

Times two.

Sarg

 

[Deleted member 19292]

I did not come to this forum, for hippocket psychiatry, but to ask questions. There is no reason to question my diagnosis. I call it the "crazies" simply because that is how it makes me feel. If I seem short of patience, and understanding, it is because I have, indeed, been the subject of unwarranted attacks on this forum. You talk of support, but the posts above, fail to lend credence to your claims. Some of you have posted links, with actual information. I appreciate it. The rest have made ridiculous claims, questioned my service, and my diagnosis. If you have a legitimate question, ask. Zipperhead, you obviously have narcissistic tendencies, and should seek help. I am not here to argue with anyone. You have made baseless accusations, taking my posts out of context. Please find another venue to vent your frustrations.

 

[Spock]

Bob,
As I wrote, many of us refer to The Beast in jest much the same way. My purpose was to show a difference that can be confusing to folks that haven't sought treament. If you haven't already, you might also checkout the sister site:
https://www.myptsd.com
I've picked up that many folks use both. It seems that site is much larger with online therapists and it is where Anthony spends most of his energy, just my impression? I think it is more focused on therapy and less of a forum of battle buddies in 24/7 group or family mode. You might find more options for research there and answers, I for one would be interested in what you find there.

Best regards,
ColA

 

[Spock]

Might check this out also which could give you remote access?
From Voices of Warriors:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/voiceofwarriors

Tonight we have a great line up! The President of Battle In Distress will be on the show along with Fuzzy Manning with Link Removed. We will also be playing the song RED FLAGS by Soldier Hard with the nonprofit, REDCON-1 MUSIC GROUP (that...s made of all veterans using music as therapy). You won't want to miss tonights show!

Stay tuned, and go to http://www.blogtalkradio.com/voiceofwarriors to listen. Be sure to register with BlogTalk so you can participate in the chat room!

Tonights hosts will be Gordie Harris and Katie Foley. Scott Lee from the Veterans' PTSD Project will be opening up the show with Gordie and Katie tonight. Katt from Link Removed will be in the chat room... join us!

 

[Zipperhead]

I did not come to this forum, for hippocket psychiatry, Zipperhead, you obviously have narcissistic tendencies, and should seek help.

Narcssistic Tendacies? You say you are not here for hip pocket psychiatry, and yet you are willing to diagnosis me with a condition defined by the DSM IV as being egotistical and selfish? Bob, I will say this one last time, play nice.

You have made baseless accusations, taking my posts out of context.

Bob it's hard to take your words out of context when I am QUOTING your posts. The scary part is that you think I'm twisting your word, when in reality I'm simply pointing out that you are being rude. I stand behind my original post.

Dude, you are asking for help, and when the guys offer advice, your response is doubt. Now I can really understand that. PTSD does create self doubt and sceticism, but, why bother to ask for help if you don't intend to heed the advice? There is allot in that video to think about. And even if you do feel it has limited value to you a simple "saw that, thanks" will go over allot better.