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Shame Of Asking For Support

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Chava

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This sort of came up in another post and made a lot of sense to me and what I'm going through (and have been for years, but mainly another intensified bout lately). Asking for help is beyond hard. I live alone, haven't had a significant other or bestie in a long time, which is often okay and totally my doing because I've been such a workaholic and fairly avoidance of close relationships. But with various physical health things falling apart in recent years, there's the intensified feeling that nobody is really "there" for me. I've worked on the skill of asking for support and also offering it to others, trying to strengthen some friendships in the few moments I feel like I'm not selfishly just trying to survive. Through little stresses, I'm fine and know what is helpful (walking, music, etc).

The physical health stuff is really hard. Today I'm in a lot of pain. I did call a friend earlier and she told me I could call back to let her know how I was doing. That meant a lot to me, but I know she's really busy too, so I've been on my own. I e-mailed my therapist but the e-mails are too much and I'm really tired of a painful feeling that I'm just a burden to her. I know that sounds like typical "I-suck" or woe-is-me, but really, I wouldn't want to be her. I'm a vortex of bad energy and don't have enough support so am too torn between wanting to rely on her and also find better ways to rely on myself...or even know when it's appropriate to ask for help.

Being lonely isn't really even a thing for me anymore. I'm a relatively self-accepting hermit. But then of course I end up feeling really isolated in crisis times. I woke up in the ER more times than I can remember with nobody there (well, a nurse), no family or friends...beginning in really early childhood...and many of the early adulthood times I woke up in ER alone were perfectly my own doing (suicide attempts, alcohol poisoning, etc). But I replay this worst sort of isolation (in my opinion) and it's especially bad with how some physical health stuff has gone to crap and feeling alone with the pain and suffering. I have helpful doctors and I keep working on taking care of myself and trying new options, but I feel really, really tired of this sort of stress. Aside from sheer amped-up stress mode, I think this relates a lot to just resorting to burning the shit out of my arm a few days ago. In crisis mode or when in a lot of physical pain, I don't expect support and it reaffirms some deep shame like I'm not quite worth life...like at the near-death moment, nobody will care (so that's how it's been...it's not near-death now, I just feel that abandonment, powerlessness, shame). I could call someone, but there's a point where that just feeds the shame of needing people or support, a feeling that gets hyper-sensitive at the worst times. Hurting myself feels like a (f*cked up) way I can take care of myself, or manage any pain all on my own.

Some things are better. This seems worse, or like it can't be healed...though probably just way amped up in relation to current pain and health stuff. I wish I had the guts to explain this to my therapist because I don't understand her approach in this area...she is less responsive to my negative stress, I assume because she doesnt' want to reinforce it. She's really encouraging when I find ways to empower my self, which I understand I need to get to. Also, I think she has her own boundaries which I admire and understand it can be a way to help me understand boundaries too. But the pain and crisis stuff is REALLY confusing. I feel like I'm spiraling back into negative patterns and beliefs and extra shame I thought I had moved beyond. It helps to write because part of me wants to be able to talk about this with her...it's just not as strong right now as the sick part that feels safer through withdrawing and managing all stress by myself, through whatever means, just to avoid the shame. I know it's backwards, but I seriously wonder if I'd be safer (from myself!) if I quit therapy because of all of this.

Probably also related less to medical trauma and just feeling alone with bad feelings, like all the times I couldn't go to my mom because I was afraid of her, or my fear was because of her, or I believed I was the source of her rages and had to disappear to make her okay again. And source of self-injury being close to self-starvation and the power I feel through being "good" on the surface, self-negating, and not having even basic needs (also feeling half-dead always felt easier to accept...I feel prone to shame when I'm feeling good and healthy too, so it's like a no-win sometimes). But enough analyzing...it's all the same self-hatred and seemingly impossible scenarios. Feels hopeless and I want to just forget everything.

Sorry for another long-a$s post. Maybe doesn't even make sense (another issue with asking for help is organizing my thoughts and even being direct or coherent). Trying to keep real.
 
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Asking for help is one of the hardest things I have ever done, I was in a very bad way while visiting my doctor for another reason, and I just said there's one more thing and gave him my best description of what I was feeling and he needed to leave his office to get me tissues, I allways found when I was at my lowest I would think about getting help and then start to feel better and not worry about it, You just have to go see a doctor and tell him what's going on in your head.
 
Thanks for describing this. I've had physical health symptoms that were really made worse by the PTSD symptoms. Sometimes I couldn't tell the difference. I've got some serious medical bills for relatively minor physical health issues, (and one major issue) that were made worse by the stress of my mental health issues. The pain of one would mimic the pain of the other. Sometimes it seemed easier to have physical health issues than mental health issues. I had to be clear which was which. That's where a lot of the medical bills came from.

There are a lot of things I didn't want to tell my therapist. I didn't think it mattered to her, or that it would be a bother, or that I would upset her, or something like that. I had to remind myself over and over that she had a job to do, and it included listening to my pain and my drivel (she tends to interrupt me when it gets off course).

I like what TonyG said. You just have to get what is in your head out.
 
I have a hard time with frivolous relationships. Most days I like the peace and quiet of my own company. Much different than loneliness in my book. I like doing and small talk is not much to my doing taste. But, like you, when those crisis happen, as they inevitably do, the feeling of isolation is horrendous. Even when I have maintained friendships, well... You know...

"Maintaining my support network" is a compromise I can live with. Live support groups and church community in my own current case. Community volunteer work has also produced great results for me. It takes more than just showing up and/or crying for help for it to be a viable network for me. It calls for being there for others, as well. By giving as well as taking, it feels allot less greedy when I have needs.
 
Hey Chava. I'm well aware of my own tendency to avoid the very people that should/could offer support. Real support the kind that rings in to check on me. I think I isolate because I dread being talked about behind my back. Because I don't know how to talk to people. It's just easier to be alone. Isolated alone in pain equals self harm. I know I'm supposed to email my therapist before I cut. I've been trying really hard to find better ways to get support. But I was just thinking today that it's autumn now and if I cut no one will know. There's no end to the blues. Same old shit new day. I don't have a clue why I have such a compulsion to harm myself. One of my therapists says it's pure ego as if that's bad? When you get feeling better physically, and I know you will make it through this because you're aware and intelligent, you'll probably still have the blues.

We're supposed to be reinventing our lives. How? Why? Who says? I'm fine being alone until I need support and then realize for the millionth time that I have no support system. No one want to know what I've been through.

You'll have more strength when your body works better. The psychic pain is like the railroad tunnel with lights bearing down on me. Like I don't have a lot of time to recover but can't summon the nerves to seek help. My house is a metaphor-every room is torn apart but not finished. I guess I want to say how much I identify with you. There will be functional times but when? How?
 
@arfie , agreed. I'm cutting down on work and committees and hoping to nurture better relationships if I ever feel like I'm not just putting out fires, or feel like I even have the will. I do stay active with a 12-step group and offer rides, meeting up for coffee, listening, just being available, but am also over-sensitive to them right now...feeling like a couple people are withdrawing because I'm too much, have too many problems (even though I don't ask them directly for help, I talk about it at meetings and nobody says, "hey, call if you need to"...though I offer that to others when I can tell they are struggling...I realize not everyone just thinks of that....but also, one other lady who was good to visit with seems more distant I almost think because she's meeting up with some of her own trauma past and not willing to go there really...that I've told her about trauma therapy a little in my case I think has actually created a wall). I've been talking with a friend who is newly sober, has some other mental health stuff, and is struggling, and it's good to be an ear for her because it does take away that feeling of just needing support and having nothing good to offer others. But when I'm hurting, it feels impossible.

Anyway, I do feel selfish and I'm sick of it. I'm sick of my body, my needs, and want all of it to go away (yet somehow feel good about feeling good). I do okay supporting myself when I'm not in physical pain or struggling with bad panic symptoms. It's just too much lately and doesn't seem to stop. I'm just losing patience and also not willing to feel like I'm burning out my therapist or only asking friends for help in an unbalanced way, like asking too often. God, I'm rambling. I quit.
 
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@KwanYingirl (feeling less "alone" with that post). So, we're together in some of this shit. I also relate to the feeling that nobody wants to know my shit. I can't find the right support without feeling like I'll just burn out my small number of sources right now. And my friends (group of friends, not really close friends) don't relate to this so I don't want to overwhelm or distance them with feelings of not knowing how to help. I just want to know that I'm not alone...or reminded that when it feels like it really matters, I find out I don't really matter. True I don't clue many people in at all and even my hints are probably too vague. But nobody calls to check on how I'm doing either, or just say hi. I'm probably too negative, I ramble, all kinds of shit I don't even want to be reminded of, so I stay alone and it is really hard in times like this. This is when I feel like I am both fundamentally wrong and have also f*Cked up my life and need to quit therapy and rescue myself (badly) from further shame.

Yes, all easier when I feel like I can physically support myself, without the pile of pain.

Now I have to shut-the-F-up. I feel disgusting. Thanks so much for chiming in through some of this and understndinag
 
Don't quit, Chava. In my own recovery, I take this kind of discontent as a symptom that I need to tweak my program. My reflex is to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but I am learning to check that impulse. It sounds like you are already tweaking yours. Give it time to work. Yes, life in general, feels impossible at times, but... Keep stepping.
 
I've spent so long not quitting and it's just starting to bring up too many difficult feelings and sheer exhaustion. In my worst moments, it feels like the universe is trying to reinforce that I'm not worth the effort and I deserve all of my pain. There was more toughness in me, or so I thought, when I was just more disconnected. I probably can't go back. But I can't go forward, or I'm not seeing evidence or hope much anymore...just a trapped feeling that is relentless. I don't know what to tweak, or I tweak something and something else falls apart. Old defenses seem wrong and new ones aren't working. Or it's just too much right now and I feel like I'm drowning and people are just watching. I'm sure that's not true but that's how it feels...intensified when I'm in pain, which is too much. My body is so fried. Thanks for letting me freak out a little and taking the time to read.
 
When I feel like I'm getting nowhere with therapy I don't quit but I go to bed and put on Pandora and just try to comfort myself. Wrapped in warm blankets and Annie snoozing next to me.
 
Yeah, I feel like someone needs to just punch me in the head (waiting for sedative to work). The pets are helpful.
 
Can't believe the amount of crap I can ramble. None of this even means anything. I can keep my worst sh*t or my crazy sh*t to myself and I can manage on my own better. Maybe that isn't how I'm supposed to do it but there is like no bridge to "normal" for me right now.

O.k., Sorry for the uncreative language.
 
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