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Sick ‘N’ Tired of being Sick ‘N’ Tired –Gotta Get It Out!

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And, I'm glad it's damn closed, bc what a bogus attempt to fk with someone's head, and provoke guilt................so absol. bogus and disgusting. I think an apology is due.
I think I used the wrong word here to say what I mean. It's not provoke guilt, I mean more project, invent, try to frighten and create guilt ect., where no guilt is due.
My mother's been famous for this. I saw her today, and God, do I hope I feel better tommorrow. It's possible you know, as just yesterday I felt great, today, real rough going, tommorrow it's quite possibly I'll feel better.
 
Hope, well done. Do you see how far you are coming now in your progress? You got here and your self esteem was battered and beaten, everything very private. Now, here you are shareing some of your deepest secrets with strangers, all of which are here to learn, share and support you. To post about our secrets in public, making them no longer secrets, means your self esteem has improved gradually, which shows progress. This means your becoming much more confident within yourself, and less worried about what others think off you. This is self esteem in the making, and I am honestly just so proud of you for your hard work. Please keep this improvement going, and become that assertive person we must all be in order to manage our past and our PTSD effectively. Well done hope, and congratulations on your hard work and efforts thus far.
 
hope, i am so sorry you went through all that in your life. seems there are a lot of monsters out there. you did well to post and get through it. sometimes reading other's post makes me shake, but i feel so bad for you, i just have to say something, so you know somebody cares.
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Cookie and Anthony, thanks so much, I can't tell you how much your words help. I'm practically speechless right now, but certainly feeling some good feelings inside. Crying some, but it's a happy cry. It feels so good to have the courage to share this. I've spoken so very little about this over the years. Little of it, and some not at all.

Finding this PTSD forum followed and resulted from a quite painful, incident at an AA meeting. Just a few days prior to finding this forum I was heading to an AA meeting when I started thinking intrusive memories of being curled up in terror in the dirt of our bal ked and my father's threats and rage. I couldn't stop thinking about it and later found myself talking about it in the discus. of this meeting. And I was emot. and I wasn't thinking straight and one woman was staring at me like I was a freak, and yet I knew better, and couldn't communicate it, and what I was saying didn't belong in that discus., and it was probably surprising as all to see this part of me, and l left almost ready to conclude that I must be a freak and everyone knows it, bc this other woman spoke after me and said, "I guess it's my turn to come to a meeting and hear, someone out of their f'n mind speak." And, she went on and boy did it'all hurt. I left that meeting, prayed when I got home for her and said a little prayer for myself. I took some other positive actions and within a few days sat down and typed in Post Traumatic Stress Disorder into my search and all what came up was pages upon pages of educ. text of what PTSD is. This wasn't going to help me one bit as I couldn't even focus to read and understand it. Then I thought, , , how about, PTSD and Recovery and that's when I immed. found this forum. Amazing.......absol. amazing.

Guess, I'm not speechless after all. Gee, I just said a mouthful.

I can believe you cookie when you say somebody cares. Me believing someone, in itself is remarkable. You let me know somebody cares and I very much appreciate this. THX.

And, anthony I'm seeing that increase in self-esteem that you talked about. It's there in some of my interactions with people, even at times w/ my husb. and kids. I'm beginning to see and feel the self-esteem inside. It's awesome. I love it!
 
That really is excellent hope that your seeing results. It takes time, and results continue as you will travel through the ups and downs. Heal trauma, learn PTSD management and time do a wonderful job in unison to get people back on the right path to their life again. No two paths are the same, and generally half the things you learn are useless to your specific self, but the pieces you do relate with are often the powerful ones to make an impact. Finding those that relate to each of us individually is the trick, as no one technique or tactic can blanket all sufferers.

Hope, keep going in this direction and it continues to increase. When you hit assertive, you pull yourself up so you don't reach arrogant. Trust me, it happens... assertive is the target to reach. This helps in so many areas of healing, which you will identify for yourself.

Well done hope, and keep this going please. Your starting to really step out of your shell now.
 
Cobwebs two feet from nearly every ceiling became a part of the décor and didn’t seem to bother adults much.
Very ill today with PTSD. So restless, anxious, confused, unsteady on my feet, withdrawn, irritable the works. Barely could sit upright in church. I feel like my brain and balance is all off kilter. Can’t seem to think straight and it’s taking me a long time with much diffic. concentr. to say anything or to talk with husb. and family. Getting frustrated with myself, and have had a couple little tantrum fits, as suddenly I can’t think or speak anything.

So completely sick, and angry with people from my past that pose absol. no threat to me today. Had to change plans with husb. Taking son out to movie, now it’s him taking both son and daught. out, as I feel so sick and ill-equipped to enjoy daught. Probably afraid of myself too, as it’s always easy to enjoy children when feeling well, but no so when feeling freaked out inside. Never want to, (I do however), leave any opport. to become irritable, unavailable or upset my children as the result of my illness, so prefer to have daught. out w/ dad and brother, for now. Having diffic. being sick and being reliably there for my children too. Husb. is presently being a great support.

After lunch he pointed out an overlooked, almost invisible lrg. cobweb above our kitchen table asking if the 10 to 15 dots on it were dead flies. I took a close look, it was like fruit flies, and immed. I began dry heaving uncontrollably. For the next fifteen min. I was in the bathroom 1st dry heaving than violently losing my lunch. Sounds exaggerated, but it's not, and/or not worth mentioning but I’m doing so as I’m surprised that in addition to how I felt earlier, I was just suddenly vomiting, and there is no reason to believe I’m phys. ill, just hyper-sensitive the last 24 hrs. Experiencing some subtle flashbacks in other instances, as well as easily startled. My husb. thinks sometimes, I’m making up that I feel so terribly ill. I even start doubting whether I’m creating or inventing feeling ill or not, just to be left alone.

Recently wrote about the filth and condition of the house and people who raised me. I suppose people you live with for decades., like your mother and others who are allowed in are called family, but admitting this creates so much self-loathing, depression and anger that I won’t do it. I wasn’t anything like those people, and yet they wanted me to: “go along, to get along”, “paddle with the current, not against it,” “accept it, take it and live with it, because this is what it is, as I‘m in charge here (mom‘s bf),” “if you want off our shit list then join on in,” and other hundreds of mind-boggling messages that if I actually followed would’ve effectively killed my spirit 100%, making me no better than the worst, -that bastard who stepped in, took advantage of my mother circum., intim., threatened and took her mind and will, demolished the inside and outside of our home, before my eyes and took my mother from me and left me to fend for myself amongst complete abusive and neglectful imbeciles.

I really don’t want to have this anger, nor express it, as I don’t want to feel this way and didn’t when I unknowingly and yet successfully, disappeared into some place of mind, and for some yrs. too, much like an amnesiac, dissociative state. I don’t know, what do I know? But that I developed a personality that didn’t involve any conscious memories of my past. I lived and felt very much like a pretender, unable to believe the few occas. recollections of my past, unable to even own my name as I introduced myself from 21 on by a different similar name, but cert. not the name I heard those sicko’s abuse. Can you imagine abusing a name just by the tone of voice in which it’s said, the associations made in connection with it, the scowl and look of hatred and disgust on their faces of those using it and speaking with me. Fk them….I’m so damn angry at mother’s now dead bf and her.

Now just a little mention of the cobwebs. At one point in time and for a very long time they covered every inch of our ceilings. Now these ceilings were not the average ceilings they were either beams or insulation or black sooty plastic or the improv. was when a combo. was created. But then the cobwebs there they were 2" down from ceiling and no one the least interested in doing anything about it. Above where we ate, where we slept, sat, walked, everywhere. I routinely cleaned that house, at 10 yrs. and up, sucked up those f'n cobwebs only to be yelled at, cleaned and straight. that house repeatedly over and over, only to get f'n screamed at and threatend and all hell would break loose. Bc this house had long since been made up of complete walls, or no walls at all, ceilings and floor coverings, even the floor itself, and bc of the enorm. amounts of junk piled in it, you couldn't really clean it well, but I tried. It even became a sole aim in having surv. living in that hell-hole, but it was always met w/ much frustration and antag. abuse. The guy that did this was awful. God awful. Bc it wasn't only what he did it was the lies and manip. he used in doing it and his 100% selfish sense of accompl. afterwards, while we had to now exist in it for yrs. to come.

Hesitant to post this as very lengthy and now I'm stuck with this fear in my head that others will think I'm looking for pity, or self-pitying myself. I just want this shit out.....told......done with.......gone......accepted.......nothing but a insignif. memory that doesn't control my mind and health for the rest of my life.
 
I really don’t want to have this anger, nor express it, as I don’t want to feel this way...
Negative into Positive:

• I have been so depressed today, that I have only been available for my family very little,
Yes, but I found time anyhow to briefly sit with, be affectionate, and hold children, to pick them up, and briefly listen and talk with them, to go along to church and to help them some during the day, while my husb. helped lots.

• I have been so sad and disgusted with myself, feeling all alone in the world much of this day, Yes, but I did call a friend with alcoholism and PTSD this evening and together we went to a meeting, and I did speak briefly from the heart, was true to myself and didn’t disrupt the meeting in anyway.

• I am pathetic as I spoke of some pers. grief, sadness and fear this evening while sitting there in the meeting. I did reveal my vulnerability, Yes, but no one insulted or attacked me, and perhaps having and showing emotion is not all that pathetic. (Whew, this one cert. a tough one to believe, -showing emotion not weak and pathetic, ouch.)

• I should be ashamed of myself. I am wicked and or manipulative person, not any better than mother’s boyfriend was. No, this simply is not true, having painful emotions and needing to talk about these and share a little about me is not being wicked and manipulative even if what I have to say and my emotions stir up uncomfortable feelings in others.

Can't imagine for the life of me tonight how I’ll bounce back from this latest depression and guilt. Feel like tonight I have no business thinking and feeling and being sick over my past, because I’m not living any of this life today, and what right do I have to look at it, own it, integrate it and work in the direction of healing from it. It’s in the past, and I and others from my past would like me to believe I should just damn well accept it and give over it. What business is it of mine to associate with anyone, until I’ve done so?

And, much of my self-loathing and shame has to do with a horrible long-lived life situation that I didn’t cause, create and couldn’t change. I was powerless to do so, God knows I tried. The only thing I could have done differently is kill them, which I sometimes seriously considered and once fantasized about, while with sister, and me approaching mothers bf with gun at 16, while he was passed out in chair, and really wanting to kick it up a notch from pure fantasy to actually pulling the trigger and saying so long, you’ll never again play your psycho. torment games, nor have your way with us. (You’re dead mister. Now try your shit on those demons in hell and see how far you get.)

My God, hoping it’s o.k. to be really, really be sad, lonely and angry right now and in a great deal of emot. pain. :frown: :dummy-spi :cussing:
 
Well done hope... really well done. Do you see what your actually doing now? Your self analyzing. This is one of the hardest things to do in the healing process, not by nature itself, but to actually pull yourself up and look at what is going on in any given moment, self analyze, reason, apply, rectify and keep moving. Really well done hope... so so proud. You may not of thought off it that way, but I am seeing it like that.
 
Do you see what your actually doing now? Your self analyzing. This is one of the hardest things to do in the healing process, not by nature itself, but to actually pull yourself up and look at what is going on in any given moment, self analyze, reason, apply, rectify and keep moving.
I do wish I could develop this habit quicker and more consistently, as I need it for those times when I get angry. Got angry today and I'm terribly unhappy about this. Keep pushing it away as it's haunting me, and trying to accept it, but I'm sick of accepting things myself I find unacceptable, I just want it to end. To decide I'll never get angry again with those that I love, and to stop then and there. I hate my anger as it is frightening. And, after a fit of anger I can't always separate how I felt inside from what I actually did or didn't do. I mean mentally I know I haven't behaved in any physc. abusive fashion, but what I don't know is what kind of affect my outbursts of yelling, bc apparently that's what I've been doing periodically, is going to later have on my children. I don't think I start any of it, but when I'm angrily yelled at in my face, or sudden outbursts of disruptive noise piercing through me, or objects suddenly appear in my face threatening to hit or cause injury to my face. Or when someone blantantly defies me after giving them sufficient time to do what is told and then yells at me and tries to manipulates me to not take my responsibility, by threatening to have a full blown tantrum, I get pissed off. It pisses me off to no end to have to struggle and suffer to be heard, or paid attention to. So when I yell, I consider that abusive bc it frightens others. Adults tough shit....if they can dish it out, then they can take it. Kids an entirely different story. Truth is my son is most difficult at times. I must learn how to handle him. I need to take a crash course on this. Fear I'm going to need to become a genius or a saint to deal best with him. Daughter suffers too, overhearing him and I go at it, in order to make him do what he must bc repeatedly asking is not enough.

Not to change the subject, but I have a question for anyone, someone please answer if you know. Is it normal for your husb. or wife to knowing your triggers to deliberately and defiantly create them, or tease you with them. I think I can answer this myself, he must resent me either that or he simply doesn't believe the serious nature of my PTSD. He won't check out this forum, I've asked him and he's not interested, claiming he doesn't have the time...and I imagine there's partial truth in this but certainly not entirely. Pissed off at myself tonight, even though I've accomplished much good today, I'm simply sick with my emotional response to son tonight. Had to struggle to get my husb. attention tonight to listen to me on this matter. Told him I want to make it a rule that applies to all of us in our family, No yelling allowed! Or, consquenced with being sent to bedroom until whomever calms down. He said, yeah, we can do it. Now let's see if he'll even remember this and be willing to follow this rule. I hope he does, bc it's too much. It's not fair my son's a 6 yr. old kid, I'm suppose to be an adult, and so is my husband.
 
I just watched the presentation on Anger Exposed. A very helpful addition to the forum. Glad it was there. I knew I didn't have to post my prior post, but I did it anyhow bc it's honest. I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I'm a member of this forum to have hope and encourage my emotional healing from my PTSD. And, not just for myself, but so importantly my family. I fckd up tonight yelling, and I fckd up royally, and as with any commitment when you make one often things just tend to fall into place. I need to make a pers. commitment to become more and more educated on PTSD and Anger, bc I have both, and enough is enough......and please I'm just going to have to forgive myself bc I can't change any of my outburst of anger earlier this evening...I am so deeply sorry to my kids for yet another outburst. I know it sounds pathetic right now to claim I'm sorry and then possibly repeat it. It is so f'n pathetic. And, I know it. And, I promise myself, I'll do everything within my ability from this moment on to consider my Anger and PTSD as most detrimental and most in need of attention and work around that bc to see Anger, in that Anger Exposed presentation, up along side Hate and Rage, makes me so sick with myself, because I don't want my kids to ever think I hate them. I love them and want to love them so much, it hurts. Crying now, and ought to be. I hope I'm not wicked and the only one. Please, someone identify with this yelling as totally unacceptable and with me not being the only one, and please help my family and I, end and get beyond this.
 
Hope I am thinking as I have to go over the anger thing. I flip out over the most stupid shit around here. Boo told me once I was going to snap as I had too much going on and don't be shocked if it is over a missing sock a while back. She was so very right.

Of course we should not yell at little ones but we do. We know we have a problem and that is why we are here. Don't expect the anger to be gone over night. Don't try to pen it up either, pent up anger blows up bad and personally gave me horrible panic attacks, since I was not venting it it came out like that as "I was not going to yell anymore" too. Did not work.

As you keep working on your issues like you did so well above and keep it up, keep a journal, vent about the daily nonsense... You start to notice you have not yelled in a while or slammed things. But if that stress or little things are allowed to build and build you blow.

With kids, I seriously doubt I will be up for mom of the year anytime soon.

But stop and recognize you are working on it, you are addressing it, you will get that temper in check as we know we cannot yell like we do. I know how hard it can be to step back and think because we don't, we react.

Just keep up getting the stress out of you here or in a journal and it will help it not build. You can and will get better at it.

About hubs and the tripping a trigger, I think mine likes breathing way too much to pull that shit. He saw me fall apart in a parking lot yesterday over a leaf landing on my arm though my window. I had to get out so he could drive. My teen daughter on the other hand knew all of this (she even saw my doctor) and my startle response, it was her favorite past time, and she knew how to tap or make a loud noise and jump back as I did swing a couple times. Never got her but I regret missing. She was such a little ass about it even if I would be left in tears she scared me so bad, she would be laughing until my hubs ripped her for it. She still never quit. She took much pleasure in my misery, hence one of the reasons she has since moved in with her dad a month ago. She was pushing me over the edge every way she could come up with. My doc tried to tell me, as I am so torn over letting her go to her dad, that it is best. Doc had seen her in private, he said I was not insane but if she stayed I was going to be. She just flat had it out for me to fulfill selfish teen urges. Had I been healthy it would have never worked like that for her.

I would also try not to feel so bad for knowing you have anger issues. Guilt we have as a result from how we are having PTSD, compared to not, adds way more stress than we need. Not feeling so bad, know you are working, and keep working at it then you have no reason to carry that guilt and stress drops as a result of less guilt and will lower the likelyhood of blowing up.

And yes, it is easier said than done but doable.
 
Hope, anger is something I understand, because I had it very bad. It takes time, its takes commitment, its takes determination, but you have them all, which means you can do it. It is not realistic to just say one day, "I am not going to be angry any more", as chances are, you still have so many stressors upon you, that the smallest thing is going to flip you out.

There are techniques specifically designed to help with anger, such as the 10 second rule, being the moment you go into rage, the only thing you have to do is NOT TALK, NOT RESPOND, FOR 10 SECONDS. You may look silly, but it helps you to work through anger. It works, its only people that allow this rule to fail, because they fail themselves before really giving it effort. Do something enough, it becomes instinctive, which means you no longer have anger issues, because when something makes you so angry, instead of responding without thinking, not talking for 10 seconds and counting those 10 seconds in your mind, allows you that small amount of breathing space in order for you to think, before your respond, which means you are then intentionally being angry with the recipient, or you have a slightly different mood after 10 seconds, which often means you talk calmer in response, instead of the immediate response of yelling.

10 seconds doesn't sound like much, but you can yell in 10 seconds, and then realize you just yelled when you didn't want too. 10 seconds works, it absolutely is only the person applying it that fails this method. If you don't want to yell at people, you don't want to respond with immediate rage and the thoughts on the top of your mind, which are often the wrong responses, then every single response when you know your getting worked up, leave it 10 seconds before responding, regardless how silly you look, do that and you will find yourself naturally becoming a calmer person, able to respond in lesser times without anger, yelling, rage and so forth.

It is a technique that is fail safe... it is only the person using it that fails this technique, not the technique fail the person. This is one technique that is appropriate for every single human being, and if applied, it works, if not, then you fail the technique as a result.
 
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