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Medical Talking to your Doctor about Pelvic Exam

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I’m still not better with this. I can’t let it go. I can’t stop relating the test to my abuse. If
I think this is a pretty normal reaction..or at least it is for me so I assume it is for everyone??? So ya, it's a massive trigger.

I think you may be caught up in trying to talk yourself out of reacting to it, instead of thinking "crap..trigger...what do I do next to lessen it" If that makes sense?

Which means accept it as a trigger and think about how you handle other triggers when they happen. What tools do you use on the more expected ones? Work your grounding skills and see if that defuses it....
 
Which means accept it as a trigger and think about how you handle other triggers when they happen. What tools do you use on the more expected ones?
I don’t handle them. Triggers win every time. I’m a failure at managing my PTSD which is one reason it baffles me that you and Mark keep talking about how great I’m doing. I’m not and don’t know what to do.

I see this is the “negative loop” therapist tells me about. How do I normally fix it? Cutting. But I’m not supposed to do that. There is nothing else. I have to just make all the feelings and memories stop somehow.
 
I think this is a pretty normal reaction..or at least it is for me so I assume it is for everyone??? So ya, it's a massive trigger.
For sure.
@piratelady : this was a massive trigger, and it's only been what - 24-48 hours since?

It's ok to be feeling like this. It's difficult and unpleasant but it's very expected.

What can you do to ground yourself?
Deep diaphragmatic breathing? Listen to music? Go for a walk? Tell yourself out loud that you are safe? Name 10 things you can see in your environment, and remind yourself that you are not back in your trauma.. even if it feels like it.
 
I don’t handle them. Triggers win every time. I’m a failure at managing my PTSD
No. You're not a failure. This is why: the triggers will win, every time, for quite awhile until you (a) get the hang of what you need to do to catch them in advance, and (b) have time to practice doing so.

You need to think about it this way: you experience the trigger, and your job right now - the thing that you (as a person in treatment for PTSD) are responsible for - is to make the necessary adjustment after the fact, so that in future that particular trigger can be lessened. It will only be lessened. You aren't going to go from highly reactive to cool as a cucumber in this process...it's always going to take a number of attempts before you start to experience consistent results.

So: you learned on this last visit what you want to do for future visits to support yourself. Putting supports into place aren't at all a sign of weakness. Everyone - even the mentally healthy - needs help with gyno shit in one way or another. It's not a walk in the park kind of experience for anyone.

I think that we PTSD folk sometimes expect ourselves to cope with stressful events better than the average person, because we have the advantage of understanding the effects of stress/triggers in a more specific way. It's important to remember that there are very few people, if any, who can say they walk this earth with the ability to be always unfazed by everything - especially things that would be difficult for anyone, really.

I think you've done really well. Why? Because you prepped for the visit, you went in there, discovered that your prep plan worked for some aspects but definitely not for others. So now, you are adjusting the plan to cover some bases that you missed. I know you have some expectation that you're not supposed to need to have another go at the problem...I suffer from that, I expect myself to learn, get it right, and never again make a mistake or get it wrong. But PTSD recovery just doesn't work like that. Start changing your expectation of yourself - this isn't about lowering it, it's about getting realistic and more specific about how many steps there are to managing, then overcoming a trigger.
I see this is the “negative loop” therapist tells me about. How do I normally fix it? Cutting. But I’m not supposed to do that. There is nothing else.[/QUOTE]You've got a gap in your skills, then. Basically, you need something other than cutting that you can employ in order to interrupt that downward spiral, because this:
I have to just make all the feelings and memories stop somehow.
Is not realistic. For anyone.

Have you and your therapist ever discussed distraction techniques? Things you can do, when you feel the spiral coming on? It's probably a topic for a different thread, and you can certainly search the site for them. In DBT, it's the stuff called "distress tolerance".
 
This is all just beyond my ability to cope.

Well I think ^ is not accurate bc you did cope. Can you rephrase that in your mind? However you want to rephrase it - remember what this is all for... to start a family. One of the most wonderful experiences you may ever have. I know this exam had negative associations for you and I'm not saying it's simple... but this is a step towards something positive. So maybe try to at least remember why you are having the exam.

I've had one of those exams btw... and they are decidedly unpleasant and uncomfortable. So you are not alone in feeling very challenged by this type of procedure. Any normal woman would also feel that way too.

but I was comfortable with my doctor. He has been my doctor for probably 15 years. Now he’s retired. I have to get my care somewhere.
^ I think it's really important that you develop a good relationship with just one physician for all of this stuff bc if you were handling it ok with your old physician and now you have to start all over again with someone new - that's hard too.
 
Can you rephrase that in your mind?
Therapist has been trying to help me learn to do this, but I haven’t been able to when I’m in the midst of it.

it's always going to take a number of attempts before you start to experience consistent results.
Start changing your expectation of yourself - this isn't about lowering it, it's about getting realistic
The perfectionist in me thinks this is all crazy talk, that I should be able to handle this better than I am, but I get what you’re saying.
Basically, you need something other than cutting that you can employ in order to interrupt that downward spiral,
There are other things, but I can never remember them in the moment. I have some in email from therapist, but they’re hard to find. I should save them somewhere more handy for next time.

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I’ve been thinking about this some more. I get that the technician was cold, and a bit harsh, also that my usual doctor is gone now, but I still don’t understand my extreme reaction.

What I mean is, I had been abused before the last time I had that test. Same thing with my doctor, I had already experienced trauma when I first started seeing him. Yet back then, I handled everything fine. Now? My anxiety is horrible. I don’t understand the difference
 
There are other things, but I can never remember them in the moment. I have some in email from therapist, but they’re hard to find. I should save them somewhere more handy for next time.
I had to put mine on index cards, and get used to keeping the stack in the same place (kind of like how one does with keys?) so I knew where they were in my house.
The perfectionist in me thinks this is all crazy talk, that I should be able to handle this better than I am, but I get what you’re saying.
I know. And I'm glad you are starting to understand it. I was incredibly ashamed and angry at myself when I realized that I had to write coping skills on index cards. That I had to tape them to the walls. That I was the person in the ER bay yelling and sobbing for help when the nurse was on his fifth try for a vein (seriously, dude, after three I say - just accept that this is not your best skill and f*cking call someone else to do it)...that I haven't had a gyno exam, pap smear, nothin' since....2010?

I have high - unrealistically high - standards for myself, when it comes to comporting myself, doing my job, learning new skills, adapting behavior, etc. I call it 'good student syndrome'. When I take something on, I expect myself to ace it. Sounds like you are similar.

After I was diagnosed with PTSD, and started the trauma work, and got really knocked back with symptoms - all the stuff we all go through - it was hard to survive the symptoms, and it was equally as difficult to acknowledge that I was not already an expert in coping. I hadn't mastered it. I was going to be a mess, possibly for awhile. I still have to remind myself that "getting it wrong" is just as useful as "getting it right". For all sorts of reasons.

You're not going to just believe in this way of thinking overnight. All you have to do is, remind yourself as needed. Eventually it does become easier. Same with applying skills. It takes more practice than one would think.

You're doing really great work, and I think you can be proud of yourself for engaging with these challenges instead of avoiding them. That's a big-ass deal. You can ease up on the self-judgement, even if the thought needs to be "Ok, enough of that. I've thoroughly schooled myself. Brain, lets move on, now."
 
I have trouble going to Doctors and lose my voice nearly every time and my T wrote a letter for me this past year and we discussed it to make sure I was okay with everything. I made a copy of it and pulled it out when going to the ER. I was really glad I had it and they were all nice and supportive. The letter was short and only went in to small details about past traumas and what I needed if that makes sense.
Just wanting you to know you are not alone. I still continue to reschedule OBGYN appointments and panic at the thought. Sending hugs if you accept.
 
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