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Therapist wants authorization and contact info for friends.

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I don't know if it is because he is part of a very large behavioral health organization (multiple locations in two states and their own behavioral health hospital) but I feel like I am doing assembly line therapy.
I can kind of relate to your situation a bit. I get annoyed with cookie cutter therapy, generally struggle more with therapists who are part of large systems, and I have professional and personal reasons (that I will not get into here at all) as to why a welfare check by first responders in town is very problematic for me, more so than for the typical trauma client.

That being said, I see a therapist who is not part of a system, and even she says “this is part of the procedure" or "this is part of the process." For her, she's trying to explain, there is a bigger picture, she's trying to guide me through it, tell me to hang on, etc. I'm not sure that's what your therapist means or not, but it's possible. He is also beholden to processes and procedures for his practice - some of which would be the case even if he wasn't in a large system.
I am really struggling with this new T so I am not sure if my anger and feeling violated is because we really haven't connected yet or if what he asked was really something that is out of bounds. Towards the end of our telehealth session this last week he asked me to consider providing him with names and contact numbers not of family members but of friends that I would be willing to give him written permission to contact them if he is concerned about my welfare.
I'm going to gently push back a little. He asked you to consider a request. Asking for consideration of a request to release info to friends as an alternative to a welfare check isn't actually a violation of anything out of bounds. It actually sounds like he is trying to tailor things to your needs the best way he knows how, and still stay within the bounds of a good practice.

You may feel violated, and that feeling is important, and it's worth considering if there is actually a violation. Right now, all he has done is ask. The fact that he asked for written consent is a good sign. If you choose to provide consent, could be extremely limited and well defined consent. As in, "I only consent if xyz conditions exist." And you could limit the info that would be released very specifically.

You actually can say no too.

My therapist asks all kinds of stuff all the time. I say no all the time. Is some of it resistance? Sure. My therapist says,” thanks for letting me know." She knows I'm not resisting for kicks and giggles, but that every “no” is a sign of someone trying to manage the best I know how. I've even said, "I've thought about it a lot, and this is a hard ‘no’ with me right now. I'll keep thinking about it, but right now, I'm not willing to discuss it further." She’ll drop it.

You have the power to say no to him as well. You have the choice. Don't lose sight of that. This might be a chance to say “no thanks” and see how he handles it. Maybe you and him can come up with an alternative safety plan where you commit to contacting a friend yourself before doing something permanent.

Can friends assess safety? Eh. That's mixed. They can't put someone on a hold for good cause, but they could contact someone who could do that.

There is other support they can provide - I personally have an agreement with my therapist I will go sit in public or be with a friend in a crisis, even if they have no clue what is going on, if I can't be safe on my own and I'm unwilling to risk professional support. I have even sat in the waiting room of an ER. Not to check in, but because it was the only safe public space open at 3am.

Because I don't want my friends to know what is up, if I contact them, it means I just say I’m having a “crappy day" to them, and I make it clear, talking about it will make it worse. Just need to hang with someone. It also means it's on me to catch a crisis before it's a severe emergency and go take action earlier.

Also, as someone who can relate to complex reasons as to why first responder intervention is extra risky, it has happened in my life. I've had someone with a conflict of interest of sorts check on me. People are required to keep confidentiality or get sued. If it's a matter of saving your life, which is what a welfare check is really about, it might be worth the risk. If you are dead, I mean, it won't matter. But again, I understand about having cause to tread very reluctantly.
right now I am not sure that trust will ever exist.
I'd be weirded out a bit too, based on the things you have described, but I don't see huge red flags about him. It might not be the right fit of a therapist, but I do think you are on track to really give this a try, as you are doing. Kudos to you for that. I also don't think trust is entirely required for therapy to be helpful. It does help, A LOT, but it's not required. One can still learn and do good work without 100 percent trust.

One therapist told me once that the person in the room with the most power to make therapy go well, or not, is actually the client. I'm not sure what I think about that myself, but they had a point. This trauma therapist was trying to give me my sense of control and power back. I don't like how therapy is presented like it's this good helper figure and I'm just there to do what they say. It works better for me when it's a partnership, and I'm able to say no - with all the responsibility and benefit that this brings to the process.
As if all of this wasn't bad enough I visited my P-doc's practice website today and on the front page is a notice that they are changing the insurance carriers that they accept and the carrier that my new employer has isn't one of the carriers they will continue accepting so on top of struggling with the new therapist I will have to find a new p-doc after our soon to be last appointment on Friday.
Argh. That stinks! Some practices will do what is called a "single case agreement" to still bill an insurance for an established client even if they won't take new clients with that insurance. Before you begin the search for someone new, you might want to see if they are willing to do that. The fact that they didn't contact you directly about it (yet) might be a sign that they still plan on taking the insurance for established clients.
 
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So am not really sure what happened during our session yesterday. To my knowledge I don't have a history of dissociation but not sure how else to explain yesterday. I was doing my telehealth session and we were struggling with technology issues on both ends. He changed to his tablet and cleared up his issues, I transitioned to my phone and eventually used the camera for the video app and speaker phone for audio but as things were evening out the rest of the session is parts and pieces. I know we talked some and I admitted to relapsing and cutting despite my other efforts over the weekend. I remember telling him about soon needing a new P-doc and my desire not to have the new doc be part of the same behavioral health group T is with and him saying we could discuss my reason on another day but I don't remember the conversation it was like I was in my head but not all there and I remember thinking and feeling really embarrassed and ashamed of whatever the conversation was but I just sat there squirming and wringing my hands and looking down, now I am really embarrassed and I don't know what I said and this is just awful.
 
You did well to share what you did with him - and to stick it out through all the tech issues too.

Sometimes I can’t recall sessions right away, sometimes I can write about it and it comes back a few days later, sometimes I can ground and then remember... and sometimes I have to ask my therapist.

For peace of mind, I hope it comes back soon.
 
I am really struggling with this new T so I am not sure if my anger and feeling violated is because we really haven't connected yet or if what he asked was really something that is out of bounds. Towards the end of our telehealth session this last week he asked me to consider providing him with names and contact numbers not of family members but of friends that I would be willing to give him written permission to contact them if he is concerned about my welfare.

Now this is not my first therapist or doctor or psychiatrist but never in my life have any of them asked for that kind of access. I know he said it would only be in an emergency or when he was concerned about my welfare but once I give him that information and that permission I have no control over his actions. My gut instinct is to just reaffirm my original answer which not only No but Hell NO.

So I thought I would come here and see if anyone else had given their therapist that type of access.

I’m late to the party on this one. Yes, I have given my therapist the number of 2 people, one happens to be a friend, one my brother. I was super edgy about it bc I didn’t know how trigger happy she would be with calling them. However, I can say in the 6 years I’ve worked w her, she’s only called my brother twice for legitimate reasons and that was after she tried getting in contact w me through phone and email.

Perhaps your therapist thinks you’d feel more comfortable w your friends than your family. I would discuss w him what the scenario would look like before he called a friend, would he call you first, etc.
 
@Kopykat I am sure he thinks I would be more comfortable with him contacting family what he doesn't realize is I am not comfortable with him contacting anyone ever. I know that it a perfect world he would never have too but I don't live in a perfect world if I didn't I wouldn't be as messed up as I am with PTSD. Nevertheless, we have to find a way over, under or through this because I just don't know how to figure out whether to hold on or just cut my losses with this T because I am still so wrapped up in knots about terminating with my previous T.
 
Hi fauxliz

IMHO, just like work or any thing that requires the next of kin, you should provide a name; however, in all fairness, I really do not understand why a therapist would need more than one emergency name.

It is possible there is something in your profile that is behind this extreme intrusiveness and also your take on it so maybe all the pertinent information is not shared here but if I were you, I would ask what would a reasonable person do in this situation?

I think you have the right to ask nicely and calmly why? Mr/Ms therapist why do you need more information for emergency contact? and the therapist has the courtesy and right to express the reasons and even point out what in your profile prompted to do this (evidence)_ not just a mere opinion.

At the end of the day, if you are in danger, yes cops should be called. This goes for anyone!
 
@grit there is something in my profile, I struggle with SH and SI and he says that he is trying to find ways to honor my statement that I will never reach out to emergency service personnel because of my role as their work supervisor. At the end of the day I know there is nothing I can do to stop T from calling emergency services on me if he feels it is necessary but I also don't know if the therapeutic relationship could survive if he did.
 
@grit there is something in my profile, I struggle with SH and SI and he says that he is trying to find ways to honor my statement that I will never reach out to emergency service personnel because of my role as their work supervisor. At the end of the day I know there is nothing I can do to stop T from calling emergency services on me if he feels it is necessary but I also don't know if the therapeutic relationship could survive if he did.

Hi fauxliz,

Thank you for sharing this with me. I think regardless of your past issue or future issue, when you share information about how you want to be treated, a therapist should honor that and not make you feel like you are a child who must have the whole city become aware when or if you feel ill again.

I understand your feelings now more clearly. I think on a good day you should write down how you would like to be treated when or if anything happens and he or she should honor that.

It is frustrating and re-traumatizing not ever have anyone to trust and hear your words.

All the best and thank you for sharing your story.
 
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