This is why we end up dead

[whiteraven]

That is exactly what I'd do. f*ck the "I'm activily suicidal"! No...its "I am going to kill...

Yeah, here - that's what will get you admitted. No questions asked. And on an involuntary hold.

 

[Changing4Best]

Yeh, one time they told me that since it was the middle of the week, during the day, to call my therapist, even though I was SI-ing like crazy.

These days, I have been sick for nearly 3 weeks, on antibiotics and I am so fed up with being sick physically that I want to die. I don't even dare call them. I feel like they will refuse me treatment or help, just because I have a therapist and "should be able to wait until tomorrow." I can just imagine that is what they would say, because my depression and SI is based on being physically ill.

I want to die, but I don't have a plan or anything. I just feel like dying would be better than going on being sick.

So yeh, this is why we die. When they refuse to help us, even though they should help us.

 

[Russell2017]

Same around here.
It seem like they are telling you to try to kill yourself again so they can take it seriously. Its kind of like try 3 more times so we can care and give a damn.

 

[recoveringfromptsd]

Eva. have you considered going to a trauma specific hospital like Sheppard Pratt's Trauma Disorders Unit in MD, or Wash DC PIW's Trauma Unit. Or Mclean in Mass, beth israel.

 

[recoveringfromptsd]

Actually when it comes to them determining whether your stable enough to be discharged. Sometimes the best answer to give is silence. Without saying your not thinking about it any more, your silence says you may be.

 

[recoveringfromptsd]

you can walk into the ER, say I'm suicidal and here is how I am planning to act on it... clear and to the point, they should keep you

I have been to the ER repeatedly in the last year, and I did not even have to say a word, just the look on my face, and my posture said it all, and when they asked if I was suicidal I would shake my head yes. Only once did they not admit me to a psych unit, and that is because I told them I felt unsafe but was trying to control my urges, so they sent me home where mobile crisis continued to follow me daily at the time I was waiting already to get into the Sheppard Pratt TDU.

 

[recoveringfromptsd]

sometimes it may be better to call the police instead of going directly yourself to the ER.

 

[EveHarrington]

Eva. have you considered going to a trauma specific hospital like Sheppard Pratt's Trauma Di...

I do not qualify for these programs. Mostly because I do not have a therapist yet. One requires a doc visit within 24 hours of admission-----traveling 2 hours to see my doc on a Friday, hopping a plane that night to get to Boston to be admit the next day----that would be a logistic nightmare.

In one of my threads I mentioned this, can't remember which one though.

 

[recoveringfromptsd]

you could get a therapist as a starting point, see a doc the day before is not difficult, and its not a solid requirement. I drove to the place, and went to the ER at GBMC (next door to Shepp Pratt) so I was seen by an er doc because I was clearly suicidal.

 

[EveHarrington]

you could get a therapist as a starting point, see a doc the day before is not difficult, an...

So you know how far away my doc is and the logistics of all that?

Please do not tell me it's not difficult. I'm not an urbanite with my doctor on the next block. He is two hours away. He only works one day a week. Then I'd have to get to the airport later that day and blah blah blah.

When did you go to Pratt? I know at one point they refused transfers from other hospitals, you could only get a referral from a therapist.

Pratt is excluded because of no therapist. The 24 hour rule is for the hospital in Boston.

 

[recoveringfromptsd]

I was at pratt in September last year, 26 days, 3 weeks trying to get in with phone tag between them and therapist, in the end I answer the question they had all alone, and then they asked me if I could come the next day. But that day the insurance company stonewalled, by saturday (my therapist took her laptop home and followed up), there was still no approval by noon and the insurance company people worked until 2pm on saturday. So I sent a message to my therapist that I was no longer at home, she called the sheriff on my knowing I was suicidal. By then I was on the road to baltimore, I figured if the approval came at the last minute I would be halfway there, it never came, so I ended up in baltimore and suicidal, mobile crisis called me while I was there, and then the one call person from TLC where my therapist works, they convinced me to go to the ER in baltimore, so I went to GBMC which is next door to pratt, and was transferred from GBMC to PRATT in safety sweats the hole nine yards. The insurance company could not balk anymore, I was suicidal and that fits the "Medical Necessity" requirements.

As to not being close to docs, I can relate, decades ago I lived on a mountain, and hour or more just to do grocery shopping, pharmacy, doc, etc.

Have you found any place that will take you?