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Told My Mom She Was Crossing A Boundary Without Yelling

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She is a narcissist. When her kids are having problems she likes to know all the sorted details so she can tell her friends about it and get sympathy.

My mother is the same way. Everything you wrote is exactly how my mother is. The one strongest deterrent I have to ground myself from suicidal ideation is to remember the joy my mother would experience by having a daughter that committed suicide. She would revel in the opportunity to have everyone lavish attention on her because her poor crazy daughter killed herself. Attention is her drug of choice and she sees no shame in acquiring it through pity. She's always the victim.

I'm not sure if you have any siblings but apparently it's common for narcissists to idolize one child as they seem them as an extension of themselves while the other becomes the dumping ground. I like to refer to myself as my mother's garbage can, because it's like she dumps any bad feelings she has about herself onto me. It's very painful to grow up with a mother like this and I'm glad that your finding a way to set boundaries to protect yourself.
 
quaintpapercut,

Exactly! I was the scapegoat of the family. There are five of us. More later, but you hit the nail on the head. I read a book that helped me a ton, I'll pm you the title if interested.

I hate that there are others like me. It also brings me lots of comfort. Thank you.
 
Congratulations and good job.

I too have to work on this with my sister. It is all superficial. I do not confide in her anymore and I have not been getting phone calls from her like I was before. I miss her because she is my last remaining member of my family of origin but I do not get depressed from her calls. It is sad what we have to do with dysfunctional family members that will never change. Alot to have to accept.
 
Greetings,

About a year ago I started gathering up materials intended for family members who would be inclined to read, to invest, to understand in measure how to be supportive (and decidedly nondestructive says I!) if they were so moved. Though my siblings are largely invested in their own lives and cannot be relied upon to be much more than reliably judgmental, I have drawn some comfort for making a discreet study of what might constitute humane support and feedback. Defining a compassion playbook of a sorts helps to maintain personal boundaries when most every other instinct would prompt me to disassemble the same absent caution.

I cannot overhaul my family or remaining family members to suddenly (or even gradually!) become respectful and literate with regards to matters rooted in the total experience of C-PTSD. What odd comfort I can provide for myself is to catalog within my mind materials that allow me to posit a humane template of what I'd do in their place, of what 'found family' might be capable of if they were so-moved and so-motivated, whereas a regret much further movement or evolution on the part of my two remaining siblings is unlikely to materialize. Not all families are bedrocks of support, not all families evidence hitherto undiscovered potentiality even as we'd love to embrace a dynamic that for many a complex reason never was. Admitting such doesn't invalidate the merit of our need for love, for acceptance, for understanding. Separating the expectations from the inadequacies of the cast (poor casting in this instance!) may be as close as I get to healing.

I feel bad, for I very much wanted a family I could closely identify with, one populated with engaged and intelligent individuals able and adept at supporting each other in both the best and worst of circumstance. There is nothing wrong with this basic desire, whereas wicked cognitive dissonance is risked to allow my unsatisfied wish and over-scaled need to sour what lukewarm function exists between us each. Like many children, I was wired to believe my family was the best there ever was, while surely I merited notice as a junior royalty - a prince of sorts. A great many bad things occurred that somehow didn't immediately shake this core if not hardwired impression, with the damage registered only with the passage of time. My siblings are also like-impacted, whereas for not given to reflecting upon corrosive patterns of interrelation modeled by our hapless parents, risk repeat. I do reflect, I do read, I assume reasoned responsibility to both alter and improve how I relate to others.

My ascribed social support network 'system' is staffed by so many dysfunctional ghouls. I hope in time to meet someone I can prep regarding behaviors they'll not fail to note in relation to many a person, for there is so much to see. The cruelty and uncivil displacement indulged in my many an unhappy and deeply dissatisfied relation has exhausted my capacity for direct compassion. What is left is a detached but ever-refined capacity for pity for I am not them, and they are decidedly not I. So many macabre curiosities posing as grounded and vital adults then. Afford them food, but do keep your distance; i.e. don't rattle the invisible cage they occupy. Thanks...


M.
 
Today my mom crossed a line with me. She does this on "accident" nearly every time we speak. I have worked hard on stating plainly when my boundaries are being crossed it is always a challenge with her.

It is always frustrating because I know that she isn't really capable of what I want in a mother, what I have needed, and I have accepted that - ish...

Accepting the problem as I know it to be means I have to have more rigid boundaries with her than I do others. She does have this way of mimicking sanity just enough to make me question myself and then I give her another chance, she violates, I

I'm sad that my mom games with me in this way, but I am proud of myself because I did not take the bait.

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Good on you all akimbo! That is a great that you are maintaining your boundaries with your mother. That is a great success!
 
Standing up, and setting boundaries is not an easy thing to do, in my opinion. I think it's wonderful you were able to do it!

I wrote my mother a letter. She was trying to control me by sharing her opinion about the choices I was making. She was behaving the way my first therapist behaved, which was asking constant questions like "why do you want to do that? It will only hurt you more." I told her I needed her to uphold her role as a mother, and not one of a therapist. It worked.

I'm glad it worked for you too.
 
It is inspiring to read of your victories with setting boundaries, though it does have the effect of reminding me of my own feelings of failure to follow through with it. I'm just feeling a bit sorry for myself right now is all. Just had a bit of a mindf*ck experience before I came online here.

I do know how hard it is to put up boundaries with parents, so I'm in awe of your achievement.
 
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