Trying To Be Grateful, And Failing.

[Zipperhead]

It's hard enough to keep the positive flowing. Advocating defeat and surrender isn't what this place is about. We are suppose to be trying to fight this thing and share what worked and what didn't. A bit of a shoulder to lean on once in awhile too I suppose. But to champion a defeatist attitude? Never.

 

[JarHed]

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[Zipperhead]

JarHed, I think that is the point. Everyone use to take people to task and give them a "suck it up buttercup" when they needed it. At the end of the day, this place was run just like it was in the Army. You may not have liked the guy beside you, but you still had his back. If people were talking shit, then they were informed as much. And if someone was sinking they were thrown a life ring. Then for some reason political correctness raised it's ugly head. Taking someone to task was suddenly seen as "bullying" them. Since when were soldiers so thin skinned that they couldn't handle the truth? Now we have life guards running around making sure we have our water wings put on correctly, constantly reminding us of their superiority with their little "can thread ban" banners. And when those life guards start moaning? You are now in a position where your comments are given more weight by the authority you have been granted. Make sure you use that authority to help.

 

[Zipperhead]

JarHed, you're killing me here. I didn't mean to say you were not entitled to have an opinion. If anything, going back and erasing your posts leaves questions as to whether I was bullying you. Something I'm a bit paranoid about as of late. All I was trying to say was that if we are afraid to give each other a kick, we might as well all go home. Sometimes we need a good kick.

 

[JarHed]

Ok, I removed my posts because as you say they may have more weight or at least they're not supportive in the way I usually am. Not that I think anyone should perceive what I post as any different then what they post.

If anyone thinks that if I don't like what they say that I'd 'threadban' them then they don't know shit about me or who I am. I thought that perhaps some might. No one has been threadbanned, at least so far. I didn't ask for this, just like the military I was given this duty. If it makes some nervous, then I don't know what to say about that. I've been an admin on other forums sites, it's a suckful and thankless job. And I don't like getting slapped with the 'life guard' comment either. I think you're way out of line there Zip.

And I do think that sometimes some people are out of line. I just usually avoid, not post or just press ignore. That seems to work for me. And just like you if I feel that someone has really gone overboard I report it. Just like we all do and have done and will continue to do.

I have good day, bad day and then I have some super f*cking shitful days. Just like you and everybody else here. I'm no different. Let me repeat that, I'm no different.

So today I'll just clear off as truly I'm not in the proper frame of mind to even be here.

 

[JarHed]

JarHed, you're killing me here. I didn't mean to say you were not entitled to have an opinion. If anything, going back and erasing your posts leaves questions as to whether I was bullying you. Something I'm a bit paranoid about as of late. All I was trying to say was that if we are afraid to give each other a kick, we might as well all go home. Sometimes we need a good kick.

No one's getting bullied here not you or I. Don't want to make you feel nervous, you've got nothing to feel that way about. I agree, we all need a kick in the butt sometimes, me too, of course. I'm just guy with PTSD and depression. Right now it just all sucks, that's all. And I know you're right when you say we have to feel like we can give each other a swift one every now and again. I'm OK with that.

Just today is black for me. Don' t want to really get into it. Anyway, It's all good Zip, no worries Mate. If we can't say what we think to one and other here than we're not as much friends as I thought.

It's just makes me mad that after all this time this shit still sucks the big one more that I'd care to deal with. Sorry if I took a bad turn in this thread. Ya'll are my Mates, and I mean that.

Now, I'm gonna' go take some meds and have a nap.

Later,

Jar

 

[Zipperhead]

Have a good nap Jar. Tomorrow's a new day.

 

[JarHed]

Have a good nap Jar. Tomorrow's a new day.

Amen to that and thanks Brother.

 

[Jimmy1]

Remaining positive and staying happy in a normal environment is hard enough let alone with PTSD. We are bombarded with negative crap all the time. The news headlines is full of death, destruction and people not happy with how things are. There are never news articles on the good things in life. Add to that PTSD and we are f*cked.

Think I might start a tv channel on the good things.

 

[Jimmy1]

JarHed, I think that is the point. Everyone use to take people to task and give them a "suck it up buttercup" when they needed it. At the end of the day, this place was run just like it was in the Army. You may not have liked the guy beside you, but you still had his back. If people were talking shit, then they were informed as much. And if someone was sinking they were thrown a life ring. Then for some reason political correctness raised it's ugly head. Taking someone to task was suddenly seen as "bullying" them. Since when were soldiers so thin skinned that they couldn't handle the truth? Now we have life guards running around making sure we have our water wings put on correctly, constantly reminding us of their superiority with their little "can thread ban" banners. And when those life guards start moaning? You are now in a position where your comments are given more weight by the authority you have been granted. Make sure you use that authority to help.

Zipp, I just went back over the whole conversation piece and I want to clarify something.

This forum has not changed one bit. The four of us that have been given 'Thread ban' privileges and a private section to discuss members have not even talked about one person. In fact, the majority of us did not really want it. The fact of the matter is that people were losing control and it had to be stopped. For instance, someone who has PTSD and is very unwell but is not a veteran might come on this forum without reading the rules properly, you know how it is when your really sick. Anyway, rather than being told to move on and their post being reported to Anthony, they were sometimes told to 'f*ck OFF, YOU DON'T BELONG', and then a bit of sport would be had to see who could demean them the most.

The whole idea of the 'water wings' is to make sure people don't get out of control. In case you have not noticed, I am pretty sure they have not been used yet.

With regards to what you can say, that has not changed. Jar has not been well and if he wants to delete his post it is his prerogative. Don't go making mountains out of molehills. If you want to tell someone to harden the f*ck up, do so, even if it is one of the 'Four'. We have made a pact where we will discuss between at least two of us before banning, so if someone is not well or bias, it won't happen.

So all any of us have asked is for anyone to be diplomatic about things before they press the 'Enter' key. If someone needs telling, do so.

 

[Zipperhead]

I have been talking the Jar in a private conversation already Jimmy. If anything, I think we are better off now then before. But I still stand behind the objection to deleting the posts. The resulting one sided conversation really makes me look like an overbearing oaf.

 

[JarHed]

But I still stand behind the objection to deleting the posts. The resulting one sided conversation really makes me look like an overbearing oaf.

Sorry about that Zip. That surely wasn't my intention. Sometimes when we get wrapped up in our own problems we just don't think how what we say can affect others. Once you cast a rock in the water you can't stop the ripples. Meaning, I just should have left them as they were or just stayed home. And I don't think you're overbearing or an oaf.

Today in many ways has been much better than the last bunch. I'll take it. Even after all this time it's still the same, one day at a time.

Jar