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How do people with ptsd actually feel about getting their hair cut. Is it scary for them? Vet actually has is hair short and never mentioned it being scary but I wonder if it is scary when you have ptsd having a person behind you who has scissors, know what I mean... and he doesn’t always mention it when he is scared.
 
hmmm... I've never thought about it but yea...I could see it being scary - especially for guys since there are razors involved.
Interesting...... :)
 
I had trouble with getting haircuts for awhile. But it wasn't because of the possibility of violence - it's because the place I went to mostly had young female hairdressers. Young females triggered me pretty badly for awhile until I learned to get a handle on it. I didn't think about it until I was there. I felt miserable at the time, but I kept my eyes closed and kept telling myself I really needed a haircut.

I'm ok with haircuts now.
 
My vet used to have trouble with haircuts and actually grew his hair out long for awhile because he couldn’t go get one. I don’t know if it was something that reminded him of his old routine when he was still in? Or if it was more about making an appointment, being expected to show up someplace at a certain time, then worrying about leaving the house and getting there? It could have been something totally different... it just stressed him out to no end. He’s worked through it now, and actually enjoys going. He goes every two or three weeks now.
 
My sufferer found a barber shop he loves, and the only problems he's had was when they put a hot towel on his face - it triggered his claustrophobia. He was totally not expecting it to do that, and it was apparently a one time thing so far, but they're really great at this shop, and they are more communicative of what they're doing each step.
 
I've been thinking a lot about guilt - specifically my guilt for "allowing" things to happen. I'm far enough along in therapy to know that allowing isn't the word I'm supposed to use, but still struggling to understand why not. And it got me wondering -- is this one of those things supporters just don't get?

I know hubby gets really irritated with me when I talk about the things I did wrong, or that I should have done differently, or that I feel shame/guilt/drama about. For him it's simple --- I did what I did so I stayed alive. For me it is so much more complex. Even after all this time I can't think about it without shutting down because I can't handle the emotions that come with it.

My supporters want me to let it go. They don't understand the self-hate that can come with ptsd. They think it should be easier -- that I should see it like they do. They just don't get it. And I have no idea how to explain it.

crap.
 
My supporters want me to let it go. They don't understand the self-hate that can come with ptsd. They think it should be easier -- that I should see it like they do. They just don't get it. And I have no idea how to explain it.
I think this is when trust comes in. Supporters have to trust that its more complex than meets our eyes and sufferers have to trust us when we say its not your fault.....eventually we'll both go from hearing it to believing it and help bridge that gap.
 
Even after all this time I can't think about it without shutting down because I can't handle the emotions that come with it.
More than a decade later and I'm stuck on this. More than a decade later the dead have stayed dead, I get to experience the gift of life. Sadly they're the ones who would actually have appreciated it. The longer I go on the more of an insult I am to those that aren't here. It feels like having been given every last dime someone had to make something good of myself, then pissing it all away at the bar.
Worse still, it wasn't their choice to give it up, theirs was the name pulled from the unlucky hat. I've been ungratefully wasting something someone probably didn't want to give me in the first place. How can I look myself in the eyes ever again?

They don't understand the self-hate
They really don't. I don't think most people really understand what hate is. Anger, injustice, insult, injury, malice? Sure, but hate? No. Hate is so much more. To really hate someone, you have to understand them, get to know them like you know yourself and see, really see, that there are no redeeming qualities laying buried beneath.
I don't understand why they don't see it. I suppose that's why their encouragement doesn't hold much weight. If they really understood, would they still be forgiving? Should they be?
It feels to me like. "If you knew me as I do, you'd feel as I do. So you don't know what you're talking about. If you don't hate me, you don't know me, so why would I take your word for it?"

my guilt for "allowing" things to happen.
With this, I don't know which is worse? That I allowed something so horrible to happen, or that I believe that the kind, benevolent God I grew up believing in, could really be so cruel. It must be one or the other, I just can't accept that random chance could put that scenario into play. Random chance isn't cruel, nor is God supposed to be, so I must be the weak link in the chain. Even if I didn't do anything wrong, I should have dome more right.

it's simple --- I did what I did so I stayed alive.
For myself, it really kind of was that simple. It's living with it after the fact that is complicated.

They just don't get it. And I have no idea how to explain it.
That's the real bugger of it isn't it?
I know I didn't "get it" when I was told by someone that "You are going to see some horrible shit out there. You're going to be putting yourself in situations that are dangerous. Be prepared." I really thought about it, tried to imagine a scene that would truly horrible and terrifying. I tried to cut out the bravado and ambition and try to look at it from a pragmatic perspective. I tried to not be an FNG or rookie or whatever you want to call it.
HA! I had no f*cking clue.

The sheer hubris I possessed about what it would feel like to see someone die right in front of my face. To think I'd somehow shrug it all off as 'just another day'. That knowing I did my best would somehow be good enough. The utter niaevity, no. Ignorant stupidity of thinking I could never be scared so f*cking badly I would react like a regular human and choose my life over someone else's. I never imagined it would be a baby. I never imagined having to live with it.
I never felt towards anyone the way I feel about myself after that. It would be easier to explain colour to a person born blind.
 
I've been ungratefully wasting something someone probably didn't want to give me in the first place. How can I look myself in the eyes ever again?
yep. It's getting to where you can accept that you didn't take anything from them and that shit just happens. If there is no blame how do you reconcile it? Bad luck? Hardest thing to get thru my head.
It feels to me like. "If you knew me as I do, you'd feel as I do. So you don't know what you're talking about. If you don't hate me, you don't know me, so why would I take your word for it?"
I think this is how I started my diary. If they only knew who I really was.
My sis did smack me with my feather duster on that one -- she said I don't care who you were I care who you are.
Even if I didn't do anything wrong, I should have dome more right.
And why oh why do we connect not being able to do more with blaming ourselves when there was nothing more that could have been done?
It's living with it after the fact that is complicated.
yep.
HA! I had no f*cking clue.
That knowing I did my best would somehow be good enough
This --- No matter how hard you try to prepare you just can't. But we were the ones willing to do it.
Which might be why others don't blame us? Because we were willing to do what they couldn't in the first place? We took that path - to try to protect others and they know someone had to so they ..... well I have no idea what they do after that! :laugh:
I think this is what's hard for me.
My supporters see the saves -- I see the deaths.
Maybe it really is that simple.
It would be easier to explain colour to a person born blind.
love this!
 
I do think this though @Neverthesame : there were many unfortunate or out right evil twists and turns that put that baby in the position they were (and everyone else too), and maybe bad judgments or distractions (well before you arrived), and yes, like @Freida said, you showed up. Expecting more of yourself- but you were there.

I have never blamed anyone who showed up, even if they could do nothing; we ourselves can do nothing or wouldn't need another presence. With the exception of gawkers, not being abandoned or left alone is the win for those left behind. For their loved one(s)- and themselves. It is the only proof that God is out ther- the only positive amongst the horror- by that body in front of us. Who on top of it- is grieved, not unaffected.
 
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