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What Do You Call That Feeling?

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sun seeker

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I'm not sure this is in the right place but it's the closest I could find.

Thinking about starting with a new therapist (was supposed to be today but I caught a cold) and about possibly going into family therapy with my mom, I have been mulling over what would work for me and why I haven't found what I need in the past. I'm at a point when spending lots of time talking about my past isn't going to be very helpful. What is really getting in the way of moving forward is how small my life has become because of how much I put into avoiding the feeling I get when I am triggered. It makes me avoid relationships, has brought my social life to a grinding halt, keeps my job options extremely narrow, in short has made me something close to a hermit. Toning down that feeling, I figure, would be a good therapy goal.

But I don't know what to call it. It goes far beyond any normal emotions. Panic, terror, grief, overwhelm, none of them describe how vast and all-encompassing it is. The closest analogy I can think of is that it's like what someone might feel on getting the news that someone dear to them has just died, but that's not quite right. The intensity is like I'm dying, but that isn't quite right either because death lasts a moment and this feels like it will have no end when I am in it. It's an emotional agony that almost hurts physically as well, so strong that to express it, which a couple of friends keep urging me to do, I'd have to turn inside out. Like torture but on an emotional level. Like grasping around in the dark for something to hold on to, completely helpless, completely devastated. It comes up in situations when I feel like I don't have the right to exist, but a whole lot of things can trigger it, so much so that as I say, I avoid much of life to keep it to a minimum. When it happens what people see is that I'm crying convulsively and can't stop or talk. It isn't a normal kind of crying, nor do I feel better afterwards, because I'm actually focusing so hard on controlling it that it isn't a release. It's that intensity that I'd like to work on in therapy, and also what makes me afraid of family therapy (my mother can trigger it like no one else).

But I don't know what to call it. Does anyone else get something similar? How have you described it? I know it's an emotional flashback, but those can take different forms.

To be clear, I'm not asking what to do about it (unless anyone has a really brilliant magic bullet!) Just looking for how to describe it. Thanks!
 
I don't have the exact answer that you asked for. I think if you were to use that first paragraph as a way of expressing your goal to the new T, you'd be off to a good start. I don't think you have to have it all totally clear right off. You've already got a clearer goal than I've ever had, and I think I've learned quite a bit. If you knew all the answers, you wouldn't need the therapy, right?

Good luck!
 
Anxiety is what you are feeling, I discribe it as a sence of dread, Like when you loose your wallet or yourcar keys multipled by ten and it doesn't go away.
 
Scout86, yes, I'll do that. I'll copy it now before I forget.

TonyG, thanks, but it's not anxiety. I feel anxiety at other times. This is about a thousand times bigger and a very different quality. If I called it anxiety I'd be leading the therapist on the wrong track, like if you went to the doctor and said you had the flu when really you had a terminal cancer. I'm a bit concerned that if someone who does have PTSD could read my description and say it's anxiety, then I'm doing such a bad job of describing it that someone who doesn't have PTSD would understand it even less. That was why I wanted to see if anyone had a name for it.
 
Have you processed your trauma? (Processing isvery ddifferent than talking about it)
 
Solara, I'm not quite sure how to answer that question because it's a process. I've certainly tried to, but don't feel I've been very successful. I have certainly noticed that talking about it doesn't help a whole lot.

Right now though, I'm just looking for a name for what I am attempting to describe, so a therapist can help me better. I have the feeling that a lot of my trauma is either preverbal or not fully remembered, so that makes it even more true that the work needs to be on the feeling itself than on a cognitive appreciation of the specific traumas, if that makes sense.
 
The intensity is like I'm dying, but that isn't quite right either because death lasts a moment and this feels like it will have no end when I am in it. It's an emotional agony that almost hurts physically as well,
Sounds like anxiety to me, too. And I know you disagree. However, anxiety can occur on different levels and what you described is how I feel when my anxiety is at it's worst- when it's so intense that I think it will never end.
 
anxiety can occur on different levels and what you described is how I feel when my anxiety is at it's worst- when it's so intense that I think it will never end.
Okay. I hear you that there can be different levels of anxiety. Still, I have anxiety too and it's different not only in intensity but in quality. It's just a very different emotion.
 
Not sure it qualifies as an emotion, but I went through several rounds of a feeling I called, "Resolution." I had accepted that I needed psycho-therapy and made the resolution to do something about it. I went through several rounds because of relapses.

I believe parts of me DID die during these resolution rounds; that part was more than a feeling. These would be the parts of me that grew as defense mechanisms which I no longer needed and had grown to be more problem than solution. No great tragedy, but it still hurt like unholy hell. Like psychic surgery? However, this particular pain had a great payoff. Losing those parts left me room to grow and freed me from allot of infection.

Gentle validation while you sort your own, sun seeker.
 
If your response is "its a process" then no, you haven't "processed" your trauma in therapy. Processing can be done in a number of ways, but it is always defined as "processing" as in it has a definite beginning and (if you're lucky) and end. EMDR is one way to process. Prolonged exposure therapy is another way to process. I went through intensive trauma therapy myself.

I ask because you're quite symptomatic yet "tired" of talking about your trauma. Simply talking about it doesn't do a heck of a lot of anything other thank eventually making you tired of talking about it.
 
Solara, I agree with you. I know I need to process my trauma. My reason for posting was to try to find a name for this feeling so I can describe it to my therapist and others. Sort of a shorthand so I don't have to search for a way to explain every time I want to refer to it.

arfie, thank you for sharing; what you describe is not what I was trying to describe (I've been like this all my life, I see that I wasn't clear about that). But thank you.

I was trying to think of how to explain why I disagree with the anxiety diagnosis. As I said, I have anxiety too. Anxiety is what I feel when I am desperately trying to control my environment to avoid the triggers that make me feel the feeling I have been trying to describe. It's a completely distinct state of being.
 
My anxiety is the reason I take zoloft 100mg and Diazapam 5mg x3 on a bad day so Anxiety is very hard to control, I'm 3 months into theraphy on weekly sessions,
 
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