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What If You Don't Remember?

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Wish I had more to report, but the new therapist wanted this first session to just be a background session. He implied that we'll try EMDR in therapy fairly soon, but didn't give a timeline. Sorry!

It was so hard to start retelling my story. I was in a daze for the hour after, and feel so drained and exhausted now.
 
Sydney, EMDR can't be rushed into with a new therapist. Take the opportunity to get to know each other really well before embarking on EMDR.

EMDR is tough going, and you need to feel completely safe with your therapist. It's not a quick fix. It can be very draining and I would sincerely recommend building a solid rapport with your therapist, before contemplating EMDR. I hope it all goes well for you, just don't rush it :)

Regards
CB.
 
Thanks CB. My therapist was slowing me down in our first session. Telling me to take my time and make sure I was comfortable. So far I get the sense that he has much more experience with trauma. I am hopeful that working with him will help me make more progress.

Have you gone through EMDR? Would you mind sharing anything about it?
 
I have gone through EMDR, but it wasn't done properly. It was rushed into.

I started EMDR on the second week of meeting the therapist. The first week was a 'tick box' paper assessment. During the second session, I was then told to constantly think about my trauma, while I had to follow her finger with my eyes, as she moved her hand across in front of my face. She would do this for 1-3 minutes, with a 20 second break (I'm not sure whether that was to give me a break, or to give her arm a rest!), then continue again.

There was very little verbalisation during this. Occasionally, she would ask me where in my body, I was feeling tension. Sometimes she would say "What are you seeing now?", and I would give the briefest of descriptions. I hadn't built up any sort of relationship with this woman, in fact we'd hardly really spoken at all. Why the hell would I be willing and able to discuss intimate aspects of being repeatedly raped and assaulted, when all I felt was shame? I was flooded with memories, flashbacks, images etc, and would be in a state of panic/ anxiety. This would continue for some 40 minutes. She would then tell me to think about a 'safe place' to calm down, and would leave the room for about 5 minutes. Then she'd come back and say that I should be feeling okay now, and that she'd see me the same time next week. She would then show me down stairs and out of the building.

As she took me out of the building, she'd usually have something to say - such as "You did report him to the police, right. How long did he get?" , "You know, so many women in South Africa are raped (she was South African), they just have to pull themselves together and get on with things". I'd then sit in my car for ages, in pieces, before I could even drive home. The flooding of flashbacks, nightmares, memories, panic etc would continue for days. I was a wreck.

Needless to say, the whole experience was completely re-traumatising. The programme to 'cure' my PTSD, was supposed to last 12 weeks. I think I went through about 7 or 8 weeks of this, before I quit.

I was really ill when I started the EMDR programme. I was desperate to try anything. This was offered by my GP, paid for and endorsed by the NHS. I didn't do enough research into EMDR, how it was supposed be done, what it might be like etc. I put myself in the hands of this so-called specialist (who by the way, had certificates of EMDR training on her office wall, and was endorsed by the NHS), I thought I was in safe hands. She was a bad EMDR therapist, but I didn't know that or see any warning signs, because I went into it 'blind', not knowing what to expect.

So do your homework, and find out all you can about EMDR. There is a good overview of EMDR on the PTSD forum Wiki page, with further references - [DLMURL]https://www.ptsdforum.org/c/wiki/eye-movement-desensitization-and-reprocessing/[/DLMURL]

Three things stand out for me, just skimming through this
Ensure you have an EMDR licensed physician (although I did, it still went wrong)
EMDR should be undertaken in conjunction with other CBT methods
EMDR is delivered in 8 structured phases

I have little doubt that EMDR can be a very effective treatment for PTSD, if done correctly. Plenty of people here, have gone through EMDR, and thoroughly recommend it. My case of severe re-traumatisation is not the 'norm', and I don't share it with you to put you off EMDR, only to make you aware that it can go wrong. Do your homework, and discuss the EMDR process thoroughly with your therapist, so you know exactly what to expect.

Good luck :D
 
Thank you CB! I will do some research this weekend. I am so sorry it went wrong for you. I appreciate your advice.

I am shocked that woman "therapist" minimized your trauma by saying that it happens to many women. Totally inappropriate and shows complete lack of empathy.
 
Had my second session with the EMDR guy today. It was a bit frustrating. He keeps slowing me down, asking me to explore how I'm feeling and what's going on with me. He says this is necessary to break my normal reaction of disassociating from the incidents, and that going more slowly may help me process and explore.

I put so much time and effort into my relationship with the previous therapist. I will have to cover a lot of that ground again now. The new therapist's training and approach is definitely different. And he is very concerned about re-traumatizing me.
 
Hi Sydney,
I am having further EMDR tomorrow. I find it incredibly helpful, although exhausting. I am not looking forward to tomorrow's session as I know exactly where we are going and it will not be easy.

I understand your frustration about how slow the process can be. When there are numerous memories or a number of strands to the memory each bit needs to be dealt with separately. In order to process it you do need to acknowledge what you are feeling. I often feel nothing, or am unable to express it. However my T is great at telling me how much better I am at recognising my feelings now that when I started.

I had weeks of getting to know T before we started. I also had identified and worked on the safe place before we started. CB's experience is very sad, and I hate the thought that her 'EMDR Therapist' is perhaps continuing to re-traumatize others. Also this person will be putting people off seeking an effective treatment.

Be patient!
 
Thank you Brucielucy. Good luck with your EMDR session tomorrow.

I am having a double session next week to try and move things along. We are still on background... building the foundation. This is hard in itself. I keep worrying about what he will think of me. Stupid, I know. My wife even says he probably has heard much much worse. Probably just having trust issues. Plus it's just freaking painful to go through it all again.
 
Sydney - it sounds to me like you are doing all the right ground work for the EMDR to come. Keep working hard, cover that ground, and then do EMDR, when both you and your therapist are ready for it. . . . yeah, I know I'm the voice of extreme caution with regards to 'take your time', but all the ground work will be worth it in the end :D

Lucy - It seriously DID put me off therapy, or seeking any kind of help for a long time. But, then I was lucky enough to meet my therapist, Nicola, who put me back on track. My therapy has been EMDR free, but Nicola has been amazing :)
 
Thanks for the encouragement, CB. My new therapist is so process oriented. I miss the rapport/semi-friendship I had with the previous one.
 
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