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Relationship When Is It Just Ptsd And When Is An Abusive Relationship With Someone With Ptsd?

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The cup model was really helpful. I could tell he was starting to get stressed. he had mentioned that he felt sad he can't help with the bills. After he found out about his heartbeat, he went into his office in our basement and got very quiet and was obviously upset. Me texting my sister seemed to set the cup to overflowing. I think on any other day, it would not have been an issue. After that, he laid down upstairs and he looked like he was going to cry. In hindsight, I should have let it be. Instead, I tried talking to him, apologizing. I see now how that would make it worse. He knew he was "over-reacting" (compared to non-PTSD people) and that he had made me feel like I was a bad person when that wasn;t the case. When he texted he was at his parents I should have just said "ok" and not jumped to the conclusion that he was done and moving out.
 
Just remember not to shoulder all of the blame if you make mistakes, it is so easy to do, both make mistakes and then feel responsible for their reactions when we don't follow "the rules". Remember that all relationships, whether friendship, or romantic, require a certain amount of give and take, it doesn't matter who has what.

Now, you should be able to access whomever you want for advice and support. That is only natural, it isn't like you took out a billboard sign to proclaim it to the world. So don't sweat asking your sister for advice. It is only natural and healthy to seek out help for yourself in what will always be a difficult situation. Good luck. I hope he looks for help, period.
 
I hope he does too. Everyone close to him has asked him to seek help. I think he has to hit the bottom first.

I'm angry and I feel bad for that. We had discussed "deal breakers" in relationships. Things that you simply would not tolerate if they happened. His answer was there was nothing I could do that would make him want to be without me. If thats true, why are we here?
 
I think he's on the verge of a breakdown. He left almost all his things here. In the office, he has his military records strewn all over the place. He is a very OCD, organized person. It also appears he stayed in the office for quite a while at some point because h has these 1 gallon jugs of water he drinks. There's one down there but there isn;t water in it...it appears to be urine. He stayed down there and didn't come up to use the bathroom...
 
What he said in the email really resonated with me. I think that was the truth. I think he's not happy with things the way the are, but he's afraid they can't get better. The problem with actually TRYING is if you fail....... That's a very scarey place. A very dark, and very scarey place. The thing for him to do, of course, is take the chance. Easy to say from here!

I've been sitting here, looking back, wondering what might have made a difference to me, when I was in those situations. The thing is, the few people who've ever showed they cared about me? Most of them DIED. Now, rationally, I know that wasn't connected to me at all, it just happened. At my better moments, I get that. At my LESS good moments....... Sometimes I really think the best thing I can do for someone I care about is walk away before they die.

Having said that, I'm still trying to think, what could someone have said or done that might have gotten me in to therapy faster than I did? I don't know. Maybe if they'd said they knew I was a mess, but they loved me anyway? Maybe it they'd even said they were scared too, but they were willing to hold my hand so we could both feel better..... I don't know.

Here's the thing, you have to decide for yourself what you can deal with and what you can't and you have to look out for your kids. Although some of what he's done is difficult to deal with, I really don't think he's TRYING to be manipulative or abusive. And, MOST of time, in these discussions, I tend to tell "supporters" to bail. Sometimes people ARE abusive and manipulative and we all need to stay away from them. In THAT case, I think he'd have sent the email to YOU. I think he's trying to say something and let you off the hook at the same time. And I suspect you're right in what you said in your last post. If it was me, I'd want someone to track him down before he decides to pick a drastic solution to his problem.
 
I know everyone is wondering why he sent the email to them and not me. I was copied on the email. He sent it because my sons emailed him first (they used to when he was at DLI) asking if they had done something to distress him. He had told me all of those things on the phone earlier. That he has problems, that he can't fix them, that its not me.
 
He has told me before, early on in our relationship, that he disappoints people, hurts them and lets them down. That every single person has walked away and that he doesn't think anyone can handle being with him. After the incident last sept he took to calling me his "coconut" because he said most people were like apples, they fall, they bruise, they get damaged, but coconuts are strong, they can take it. I am more afraid for him than anything. His family is enabling him rather than helping. They told him he needs help, yet left it at that. It was extremely important to him that he said "I love you" to me the first time in person. He waited three months until he was home for Christmas to do it. He said it was not something he took lightly. He is not a bad person. When he was mad Thurs I told him Id much rather he yell at me , he shook his head and said "no". He has never yelled at me, never struck me.

But this hurts too.
 
Ok now I really dont know what to do. A woman messaged me on facebook stating they had been having an affair. I texted him asking if we could skype soon because I got a message and needed to clear things up. He agreed to skype tonight. I never would think he would cheat on me..and I dont know if I should skype now
 
You said you wanted to talk to him, so you probably ought to.

You might ask yourself, "do you have reason to believe HER? Will you believe HIM? Do you have anyway to know the truth? What were those "deal breakers"?"

Your only obligation here it to yourself and your kids.
 
My deal breaker was cheating or hitting me or my kids.

I;ll know if I see him when he tells me. So we are skyping
 
Its over. We Skyped. He said he couldn't relax here, that sometimes he needs to be completely alone, sometimes he can;t be touched and that that is not normal and he can't ask me to change. So I let him go.
 
Sandi, I am so very, very sorry :( Break ups suck, no matter who and for what reason. My heart goes out to you, blessings to you in your continued journey. I don't know if he stepped out on you, many of us including myself have been there......
 
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