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When You Understand You Didn't Deserve It

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Oh dear P-no, I agree. You see, what I mean is, as my dad would say "nothing bad lasts forever". Simply because change is inevitable, bad turns to good, good turns to bad, and then can turn to good (or better).

I so understand the 'perpetual bad', or series of such bad things. :(

I wholeheartedly agree, the small things are small. Perhaps it's not the things themselves though. but a minute reality of 'what if' we have only this day, for example.

I totally feel you will come out of this p-no, not just saying that and know it doesn't feel like it. I think, realistically-speaking without exageration, I've been through some times of hellishness, it's so hard to fathom that's not the way everything is doomed to end.

Love to you :hug: .
 
I do not deserve it when my husband with dementia has bad delusions and falsely accuses me of things I do not do and says mean and crueil things to me.

I do not take it personally anymore and I tell myself it is the disease talking and now I have a inner boundry that protects me from that harm. I am very grateful that I have worked so hard on my parents and they are in the past and behind me now.

I am in a better position to take care of my husband even when he is being miserable to be around.
 
Now I realize there is no getting "past" it, I'm going to have to learn how to live with it...

JMHO...I believe we can get past the emotions and trauma and even rise above. It does take work.

The brain must be retrained to allow us to be who we are. Not who our invalidators trained us to be.

My dad was a violent alcoholic. I have nothing against alcohol. I studied the effects of the uses. How it affects the brain. It numbs the brain. It keeps renumbing until it no longer has alcohol feeding it.

Medications work to chemically balance what a brain or system is lacking. There are benefits when a good Dr is listening.

Yes the damage to the brain, might always be there. I do not feel anyone should accept that what has been done to us is acceptable or to just live with it. I have never quit asking questions. Hugs to Everyone, Whitney
 
Prime-no, Anger if understood and worked through is a good sign. Harming oneself or others with it is not.

The emotion of anger is claiming and rising above what has been done to us. Keep journaling for directing the anger. Let it out and process with your therapist. ((((((Prime-No)))))) Hugs, Whitney
 
I agree, Whitney. But it is such a LOT of anger! I'm not even sure if "anger" isn't the wrong word. I have the feeling I will make Earth explode when I let it out... I have learned in years and years of therapy to direct my anger to the one it concerns. In my case, I can't do it. That leaves me feeling helpless. I don't want to freak out in therapy and I don't want to hit any pillows either. I want to direct it to those who did what they did.
 
I want to go abroad somewhere, to a little village in Africa or whatever, and just have my peace and quiet. Actually, with my professional background that is more than just a rough option, I could actually do that, and I have started thinking about this more seriously and looking for vacancies (found some too).
I felt that same way. I wanted to go work with Mother Teresa for the poorest of the poor in India. But that was not for me.

Those who did what they did to me never had to pay for any of what they did.
They might not have had to pay on earth, but trust me, they will pay a very high price for what they did to you.
 
A butterfly can't make up for years and years of pain.
Prime-no, you are so right. It can't make up for what we have been through. The only thing we can change is our attitude about it. I have found when I stopped looking for someone to care, they came to me. It took years and years to finally have someone call, just to see how I am doing. It took years and years before someone who said they wanted to help, actually did help by doing what I ask them to do.

I wish it didn't take 67 years for that to happen, but it finally happened. So I'm glad to say I have got the chance to experience it before I die. I never thought that would happen for me. I hope it doesn't take that long for you.
 
Thank you for your kind words, safenow.

I am glad you have made this experience. It must be a very healing one, at least, I picture it that way. I am so scared it won't happen for me. If I knew it would happen at 54, 67 or 89, I'd be more relaxed. But I can't be sure and I don't dare hope anymore. Sorry for being negative. It's too dangerous for me to be positive in this regard.

(((((((safenow))))))), if I may.
 
I am finally learning healthy detachment. It comes with acceptance of the situation as it is. It has taken me years to get to this place. But I am so glad I found it. It has been making a profound difference in my life.

I cannot affort to worry about what is out of my control anymore. Things will work out or they will not.

I just hate the grief work. It really sucks big time.
 
((((((((((((Prime-no))))))))))))
Yes it is best to direct at the invalidators, but in my case many were long deceased. My therapist years ago had me write letters to every one of them.

He said it was my choice to actually mail to the ones I could. Some I did mail. The action of writing the letter moved the internal anger onto the paper. His suggestion was to not keep correcting, to let it flow mistakes and all. I actually had him read them but he did not ask too.

That was the first step, he suggested the ones I wanted to mail; to edit if I wanted too.

I believe it is all part of the emptying the cup. I don't remember how many boxes of tissue I went through. It was painful as it also brought up things that I had buried for years. There was no time frame to complete.

For myself it was very beneficial. Please be good to yourself, you have been working really hard. I would send you beautiful bouquets if I could figure out how to get them through the Internet.

Hugs, Whitney
 
It's been an amazing forum morning for me, gosh. I clicked on this thread thinking it was about a different tangent of this subject and ended up having my thinking torqued all the heck all over the place. The forum ( for me ) can't BE about having my head stuffed up my backside, always looking for some answer to pain. Life isn't about 'Me' no matter what all the commercials on TV tell us. But. Thank you for this thread. I've been wildly enlightened and validated up the proverbial gazoo by all of you. Please also excuse by the length of this post? it's not at all cool to usurp someone's thread with ' me me me', am doing it because shared experiences are awfully, awfully helpful. Who knows who reads this stuff, you know?

Through ALL the traumas, there was this seed telling me quite, quite soldily that NO, none of this was deserved. Even later, when therapy was begun, I had kind of a tough time convincing that therapist that I really did NOT think I deserved to have the stuffing beaten out of me. I accept the massive mistake as mine, that I married that homicidal *sswipe, but deserve what he did to me and my family? Nope.

This thread made me catch my breath because one of the things which come out of me in sheer sobs these days is ' I didn't DO anything '. And I did not, my parents did not, my husband has not nor my children yet we are quite literally under attack by abusers. I had an awesome childhood, go figure. Here's the thing, in case it would be helpful to anyone. Even then, there was a manipulative, baffling and unbelievably insidious sociopath perculating in the family unit. Flashes of kindness hid masked the identiy, we rode on towards pretty much doom unaware. I've quite seriously been able to track an awful, awful lot of unhealthy self-image back to being raised with a poisonous sibling who took every oppurtunity to ensure I developed into someone with zero self-esteem. Boy would that enrage her, she's carefully re-written history to figure my father as the monster. I'm actually a little worried. SO much of her current construct depends on this myth that my genuine memories are standing between her and her ability to maintain her reality in front of her 'fan base'. Little concerned I may have to 'go', and no, that isn't at all paranoid, you'd have to know what's up out here. She's completely capable of convincing herself this would be justified, too, like she DID justify to her children and 'fan base' that my parents really should go die. Again, not paranoid. This is where we are in what used to try to be a normal family. No, I did NOT deserve her, somehow had the idea in my head I did not deserve ANY of 'it'.

Gosh, also do not know what to do with it frequently. Validation helps. a. I'm not crazy. b. I'm not alone. c. I've done the right thing.


PLEASE do excuse the long post on your thread. I think if I were in the same situation, with the same circumstances, I'd move far away. I once did, in point of fact. No one could figure out why on earth I went SO far away for 5 years, 3,000 miles, did not really write much. I don't think I knew, either, I just felt so FREE for some reason. I now know it was what amounted to escape from all that judgement, meaness and plain old control, NOT my parents, it was my sister and her domineering hold on the family. It's now run amuck like they all do given free rein. Hope you find somewhere just beautiful! :)
 
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