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Work Ethics And Jobs.

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Tho quitting his job kind of inspired me to take a good look at my work history and the jobs I really liked and did well in.

The one thing about the military that was ingrained in me to the bone, is goal setting and achieving. Every day, every week, every month has goals. If the goal is f*cked up, you immediately set a new goal and go about the business of achieving it. Almost automatic in allot of cases regardless of branch.

Failure, failure takes about two seconds. "Boy I f*cked that up, well, better get busy fixing it" and that's it.

So then you get to civvie life. Things are different.....understated. I got lucky. After school one of my first shore side jobs was being a Port Captain. Organize loading and unloading ships, supervise it and solve problems as they occur....generally every 3 to 10 minutes. The waterfront, for all it's negative connotations is a very open and honest environment, and while stressful, I pretty much thrived there. 150 people running around in a less than safe environment seemed to be a sweet spot for me. I also learned a hell of allot about communication and people from all walks of life.

Despite the chaos and very loud environment, all 150 people are constantly communicating with each other. Despite one person being in charge and responsible in addition to 3 other hierarchies going on (Ship, Stevedores, Checkers), all were equal in the tasks and the goal was common. Nobody gets hurt, no cargo damaged, ship gets out on time. From an outside view it probably looks pretty strange. Bunch of huge waterfront workers saluting each other (lots of ex army on the waterfront and veterans) and allot of times you'll see two or three of these giants walking arm in arm. Not a gay thing, it's just that everyone there trusts the other to guide and watch your back. They're discussing next immediate goal and ensuring they don't get run over while doing it. Also another thing that occurred was hand shaking. Shook 200 hands every ship. "Hello and have a safe day" and "Nice job, thank you" it was standard. You can't shake a persons hand and look em in the eyes......you are something less than human among people considered the bottom of the heap. Just a matter of trust.

And then you cross a line. Looks something like this.

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Thin and dotted, your name generally goes there. And after that you put on a suit and tie and start working in an environment where goals are fuzzy and language is nothing more than a lubricant for plenty of bullshit.

People are more concerned about Pop Idol contestants than getting to work. Give open and honest communication....even without cursing, you get sent to HR and have some charges levied against you. Focus on solving a problem, you get in a bad spot because you've stepped into someones little political fiefdom. Another thing that drove me crazy is Working long....but not hard at all. Just racking up hours. HR once had to legally threaten me to sign over time sheets......for office people who did not work at all. Just consumed air, coffee AND took advantage of discounted dinners for working late.

I did not deal with office life very well. Did it for 8 years or better but that pretty much was fuel for the beast. I looked like a pin cushion at the end I had so many knives in my back walking out of that place.

Somehow...I don't think all of this has to do exclusively with PTSD. It certainly f*cking plays into it but we are all a bunch of goal oriented people as well as partners of the Beast. The modern Corporation seems to be more concerned with how you say things and how you dress than achieving any goal and the moment a goal seems difficult....it changes to something even more unclear.

I guess the big thing I've had to re learn is that if the goals are not clear, why the hell should you work towards them. If you walk into a job and it's not clear what they want to achieve and what they want you to do to help.......It ain't going to happen. And you will also hurt yourself trying to figure it out. This may somehow play into dealing with PTSD as well. I'm no expert, but goals do seem important.

Also two rules of thumb I have recently learned.

If someone hires you to "Drive Change" tell them to f*ck off. Because any company that has not managed to grasp that they need to change is not going to be changed by an individual unless they make you the CEO.

At the first sign of "Sensitivity Training" "Cultural Surveys" and other strange corporate mind control techniques, promptly turn in your resignation (upon finding another job of course) and site "crimes against humanity" as your reasoning.

Sorry for the ramble. Putting best face forward into the job market again and trying to remind myself the elements of what went wrong last time.......Besides the Beast taking over. It ain't all us. Sometimes the world is a real f*cked up place as well.

Wagon
 
Allot of experience there Wagon. I'm looking at the job market right now too. Trouble is I know what I don't want, but not what I do want. Good advice here, but still, after considering it, what's left? Is there the perfect job out there? I don't know what it is, or how to find it.
 
You forgot one wagon.

"So Mr A, who are you and what will you bring to our company"
"Well, I am Straight forward, to the point, speak my mind, don`t beat around the bush wasting time and am None Diplomatic and get the job done"
"Great a forward thinking hard working individual like you we can use, when can you start?"

Usualy about 1 month later
"Mr A, will you please stop telling the workers under you that they are Lazy Idiots who couldn`t organise a piss up in a brewery!"
"Sorry Boss, I thought you wanted Straight Forward, speak there mind, no beating around the bush undiplomatic supervisors who get the job done?
"Well yes, but ........."
"Well if you want the ponce`s to carry on pussy footing their way around not actually achieving anything, I don`t need to be wasting my time with your company do I?"
 
These are in the "Change" category. They never mean what they say. Never.
 
They never mean what they say. Never.

Business is all bullshit to me. They say one thing when they mean something else.

Like you Wagon I was in charge of numerous job sites and housing developments in my construction career. There was a time when someone gave you their word and it meant something. Somewhere along the line 'corporate' types got involved 'cause there was good money to be made.

I ran a tight ship which was how and why I could deliver the houses on time, every time. But running the ant farm wasn't the problem. It was the cry baby attitude of the people; they didn't like being told what to do or where to be or at what time. To me, those people would be gone and I'd ones that were eager to fulfill those requirements.

That's when the bosses that 'loved' the way I got things done had something to say like; 'well you know we do a lot of business with such and such so go easy on them'. When you do that things turn to shit in a minute.

That's when I decided that the 12 hours days and non stop problems weren't worth the paltry amount of money I was getting. Just worked as a carpenter then; only responsible for what I did and not everyone else. Worked mostly alone which for me was good. Wagon is right.

I also worked in a corporate environment, that was the worst. They wanted to emasculate every man that came down the pike. So if you weren't willing to hand them your balls, you didn't get on very well. It didn't matter how well you did your job, just how well you kissed up.
 
Looking at leaving in the next 2 years, 2 jobs appeal, stacking shelves in Tesco, (team leader wage isn't far from what I'm on now not including LOA) or cutting grass for the council. No stress, no bs, no customers to deal with. Just be Forrest gump with an iPod
 
Damn, what a collection of wisdom and experience. Touched nerves in about every aspect of my "career". Like you, Jar, I was in the construction trade, but as an inspector and project manager. My job was to make sure the taxpayers got what they paid for.

Some contractors I had, I hardly had to watch a thing. Hell, I had one that would tell what the problem was, what they did to fix it and they left the trench open to show me. Best contractor I ever had. And then there were the crooks that tried to get away with shortcuts and crappy work. Had to watch them like a hawk.

I worked outside most of the time and unsupervised to boot. I proved to my supervisors that I got quality work and only went to them when I had a big problem. Then I stepped right off the cliff. I took a job as a superintendent of a wastewater plant. Spoiled rotten employees. Trouble all the time.

Beginning of the end for me. Supervisor started making noise about canning me and I took a voluntary demotion to inspector. But by then, things were spiraling down and I crashed and burned. The beast won that one for sure.

Sarg
 
First interview done and dusted. Went well. Not even any bad nerves.

Now for the Psychological profiling, skype interview, work permit etc....

Hopefully it all goes well. It's a tough job with tough people in a very challenging environment........Sound familiar anyone? ;)
 
Mate, when you have time off, you will have to jump on a plane to Darwin, or Perth, then come across to Townsville for a beer, and bring your stubby cooler, you will need it up there.
 
Best of luck! I hope you find what you need! Better, I hope you find what you want!

And ya it took me some months, but between only being able to get enough care to keep me off the edge (i.e. not being able to go to the TRP program, limiting visits etc) To "you need to put out more because we are lucky to have jobs" this said when I spent an hour or more at night fom home sometimes, dialed into the network working on a server.

I am debating options for college right now... I really wouldnt mind cooking school.... jsut know that might be a hard road to go down at first.. but man I loooove to cook
 
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