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Laure

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Hi there.

I've got a few worries at the moment about a person who I've got increasingly close to the last few months.

Although initially I did divulge some information about my past - what I though was necessary in order to explain certain aspects of my ptsd, as a practically measure, so that said person was better prepared for some stuff - I held back about certain things.

A few months ago I moved away and started something new, and I have taken full advantage of this to try a fresh start where possible. Some intrusions from the past (ok, many!) are inevitable but I'm primed to cope with them. What I could move on from and forget, I've tried my best and been able to.

Though I didn't expect it, I've grown close to somebody who I now consider a good friend and a safe person, and I've been able to start trying out with this person some intimate things. As I said, I did initially share that I had post-traumatic stress disorder and outline why but I didn't go into any more depth than what I felt was necessary.

As I've now grown to care for this person, I've suddenly been struck by a horrible realisation that I have deceived them somewhat. I can't get it out of my head, I feel terrible.

When we first started to try intimate things, I explained that I considered myself inexperienced and in some respects a virgin. I meant this in the sense that, at 19, I've never had an intimate physical relationship that was not abusive. I've never consented to a sexual relationship. I've never had the desire to and I've never initiated this for my own pleasure.

We established great boundaries and I've had a lot of good experience the last few months - which I never expected!

However as I said, I suddenly today realised I have not been strictly honest with what I might have led him to believe.



After 7 years of sexual abuse by a family member, I disclosed at 14. There were very bad reactions to this, and I was strongly influenced by these.

Between the ages of 14 and 15 I had what I guess is classified as a 'boyfriend' for a few months, as well as a f***** up relationship with a 21 year old. But I barely remember these, I was an absolute mess. Through starting therapy relatively recently I recognise these relationships for what they were - manipulative, gross, vaguely abusive. I was incredibly vulnerable and playing out mindsets about 'what I was good for', 'my purpose' etc., which I had learnt and cemented while I was being abused. I have no clear memories of being with these people, I was the equivalent of a sack of potatoes and they were the polar opposite of gentle and non-pressurising.


The last year or so I've forgot about these experiences and focused on the big, main, family trauma. I class these 2 later relationships as extremely damaging and maladaptive coping mechanisms. I'm not ashamed of them per say, but I realise how little respect I had for myself due to the abuse and that these were born of that. So I'm not proud and I absolutely do not value them, as anything other than a learning curve.


So when I started this friendship and later tried out intimacy with this new person in this new place with my fresh start, I hand-on-heart had forgotten about these previous experiences. I was not technically a 'virgin', due to the familial abuse, but I also didn't consider myself as having kissed anybody, as ever having been intimate with anybody - because I genuinely didn't feel like I had. I fell into those other bad relationships because I was playing out abuse that had stopped in reality (and I didn't get why)

I considered myself, on moving away, new and fresh. All my previous experiences I associate with abuse and therefore not consensual or wanted or good.

This new person is good and safe. I don't see or expect or particularly want it to be very long-lasting - I'm just grateful that for now it's stable and I'm in an ok place for once.

But today, I had a realisation that, although he realises I technically was not a virgin etc. due to abusive experience, this person must have thought I'd never been kissed, etc.. - and I feel terrible. Have I led him on?


I suddenly realised that although I put the abuse itself as well as the later relationships in the same category for a number of reasons, other people might not. Am I a liar?


I absolutely had no intent to deceive. I wanted above all to have a clean fresh start - the only reason I told him some things about the abuse was to explain my PTSD and certain specific reactions related to it.


But can you have this clean fresh start without holding certain things back? It's not damaged me at all to withhold this information - on the contrary - but I worry it's wrong and bad of me in relation to this other person.

See, I do consider myself as - before this person - utterly inexperienced. I have no memory, other than with this new person, of kissing or anything otherwise intimate, being good or wanted or existing at all. Which is why I realise I led him to believe this - and he's helped me, and we get on great and have a great thing going on.

Where he talks about ex girlfriends and the like, I don't see myself as having an equivalent, because I don't really remember ever wanting it or enjoying it - it was a role I filled.

But I realise now that technically as a 14 year old I did have a boyfriend, and my first kiss was years ago. I just don't classify that forceful, wrong things as anything like the relationship I have with this person. I consider this person my first kiss, and this is what I told him. Which was not a lie - but suddenly I realise, it actually was?

Is it my prerogative to hold certain things back? And is it possible to hold certain things back (like colourful chaotic pasts due to abuse - as in as a reaction to abuse) without lying outright?

What is privacy?


I feel terrible. We're primarily friends. The intimacy thing (though great!!) is just something I wanted to try out, no expectations attached.

But I'm panicked. Upon realising that I guess I've been dishonest - do I need to talk and tell him about it?


I realise this is so long, sorry!

I care about this person a great deal as a friend and I'm worried I've led him to think of me as something I'm not.

Your opinions would mean a lot, thank you.
 
I don't feel like you have been dishonest, I am in a wonderful relationship with a man for the last six years, we both have PTSD, he was raped both by his biological father and then in the military, among other traumatic things, and I was born with PTSD, that was further complicated by my PTSD mother attempting to kill me and then later trauma's on top of that. As we have evolved together more and more of our "stuff" has come out. We each hold a space for that "stuff" and realize that as we grow and change more of this stuff comes to light and the more we grow and change the more our attitudes change towards that stuff.

I think it is important to share with this person any information you can about PTSD and if he truly cares have him check into it himself, also share with him that there is still "under the surface" stuff you are still dealing with and while you don't want to share it with him right now, you might be comfortable with sharing later.

As to whether or not that 21 year old was a boyfriend or not, or that was your first kiss or not that is up to you to decide. Just because my beautiful beloved was raped by men does not make him gay. To insist, some how, that because these men did these horrible things to him makes him dishonest about himself would be cruel.

I have been sexually assaulted and harassed my whole life. I don't think of myself as having a "relationship" with these people. They were hurting, angry people that used me to project their sick crap onto. I was no more their girlfriend then I have four legs and a tail.

I hope this helps and so glad to that you find someone to have a "first" safe kiss with.
 
A 14 year old having any kind of sexual relationship with a 21 year old isn't just a f--cked up relationship - it's statutory rape.
But today, I had a realisation that, although he realises I technically was not a virgin etc. due to abusive experience, this person must have thought I'd never been kissed, etc.. - and I feel terrible. Have I led him on?
You told him you have been sexual abused, you have PTSD, and I think that is very honest, very real, and not leading him on. Just because you didn't mention every abuse experience doesn't mean you lied or led him on.

If he is safe and a good guy, then likes you for you. Not because of your past or in-spite of your past - or your virginity status. Take this slowly, step by step.
 
I don't think you lied at all. You don't OWE anyone information. It may be useful for them to have some information some times, but you spoke the real spirit of the truth. The truth is, you were/are the reverse of inexperienced. You've had BAD experiences instead of good ones. I think intimacy needs to be approached with even MORE care and consideration than if you'd had no experience at all.

I'd say don't worry, be happy and keep following the safe and reasonable path that you're on.
 
I don't think that ANY decent guy would consider sexual abuse to equate with experience! (And if any guy does, its a HUGE red flag and he should be kicked to the curb immediately.)

In terms of the virgin thing.....society places WAY too much emphasis on "firsts". The thing is, rarely are firsts the greatest. (Its like this with everything in life.) I had my "first" stolen at the age of four. Yeah, I've been told that its the first time I was willing and able that counts, but this is just a bunch of crap said to make me feel better as that stolen first has tainted everything that came after. Its much better for me to accept that its gone and to work on making the future better. I urge you to not place so much emphasis on inexperience and such. The truth is that its different with everyone and its only your experience with THAT person that really counts.

It sounds like this guy really does care about you. I honestly don't think you have to explain anything to him. That is, I think he gets it.
 
I echo the above posts!
There is information to share, and to figure out when, and how, to do it. There is the emotional intelligence, the courage, and the honesty, to do it. You have all of this, plus a conscious, to be able to reflect upon your words, to ask others for feedback, and to be concerned for your well-being, and for someone you care about! Nice work!
 
Thank you for telling your story. This story of love is so beautiful and touching to me. I am happy for you both, and your story brings me joy and hope. Your fear that you could somehow mess it up, on accident, this is also touching. I'm so glad you found something worth worrying about, but I hope you find refuge from such worries soon as trust grows. Congratulations, because that is a wonderful first; thank you for sharing this joy with us. Truly.

Truth is love. If you love this person, and you share yourself in love, that is truth.

Words do not give the whole truth, no matter how hard you try.

Your love does not lie. It is always truth. You deserve love and you understand the depths of your own heart so wonderfully. I love your post. Thanks so much.
 
You definitely have not lied or led him on, and you don't owe him any explanations. If you feel the need to elaborate on what you've told hmm for your own sake, then do so, but you don't have to. It sounds like he understands that he's the first good intimate relationship you've had, and that's what matters.
 
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