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How Do You Calm Down When You Run Out Of Anxiety Meds?

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@joeylittle I haven't been on it that long.....unless less than 6 months is a long time. It's not like I've been on it for years.

They never should have put me on it in the first place but psychiatrist I was seeing left and according to my therapist he was "old school" and I asked him about dependency and he said he wasn't worried.

I have no history of it.

Now all of a sudden this new APRN I'm assigned to is against it.....so, I have no choice.
 
@sun seeker Thank you.

I don't know. I will ask her next appointment but I doubt she will start something until this is finished. Which completely sucks. Which is why I am looking into health food stores...that having calming alternatives.

But the research I've done.....the pills are really expensive.....like over 25 dollars for a months worth. I don't know maybe worth it to shell out the cash if it helps, right?
 
unless less than 6 months is a long time
It is - three months is generally the tipping point. For daily dosing, it's really safest to keep it to 2 weeks, but there's a wide variable there.
I asked him about dependency and he said he wasn't worried.
Yeah, that was super-shitty of him.

Closest thing I've ever had to benzo withdrawal was coming off hydrocodone, which is an opiod (vicodin), post-surgery. I would have sworn I wasn't dependent on it, until I started the taper. It was really hellish, and that was after just 3 weeks. It's the only time I've ever seriously thought, Yes, I could choose to just stay on this drug for the rest of my life.

Anyway - Kava seems to be the thing that is most effective as an OTC anxiety-reliever, but it's got some long-term use problems as well, so it would only be a bridge, possibly, between now and whatever you wanted to try next.
 
cause I could have seizure (which I don't really believe)

Before I answer your actual OQ... Which will take a little more time to write...This. ^^^^

Hugely important.

If you're having to taper your benzo? You're already addicted to it*. Which is normal/expected with benzodiazepines and certain other meds taken on a regular basis instead of intermittently. Kicking the addiction sucks, but it's faaaaaar preferred to dying, which is why responsible docs will absolutely rx these drugs to people at severe risk of suicide if the anxiety isn't managed now, and for a long enough time to give them some space to breathe & time to get into therapy & learn coping mechanisms.

And, yes. Seizures and death is the risk of either quitting cold turkey, or "just" switching to another med. As in, even if you switched to something else tomorrow? You'd still have to taper the benzo in order to keep the physical addiction from killing you.

Addiction does not equal abuse*. Just like cancer patients get addicted to their pain meds (and have to be weaned off, so they can go back on them before the next round of surgeries and chemo/rad ) without ever abusing them even once, psych patients get addicted to several of the many classes of drugs we're prescribed. Once someone is physically addicted to a substance, it has to be handled very very carefully removing it. Some? Will "only" cause you to be violently ill and miserable for a few days/ weeks/ months. Some? Will kill you to go off of them too quickly.

The 2 biggest risks with benzo withdrawal are seizures & suicide.

The wiki on benzo withdrawal is fairly decent. Here's an except, but the entire page is worth reading. There are better plain-English descriptions on the web, but they're mostly geared toward people who have been taking benzodiazepines recreationally, or abusing them, and that's not you.

Benzodiazepine withdrawal is characterized by sleep disturbance, irritability, increased tension and anxiety, panic attacks, hand tremor, sweating, difficulty with concentration, confusion and cognitive difficulty, memory problems, dry retching and nausea, weight loss, palpitations, headache, muscular pain and stiffness, a host of perceptual changes, hallucinations, seizures, psychosis,[1] and suicide[2] (see "Signs and Symptoms" section below for full list).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome

I happen to be a pretty big fan of benzos on a personal level, as they're one of the very few meds out there which will actually work for me. When I'm doing well (and being smart) I keep a bottle of Valium locked away but on hand for emergencies. When I'm doing badly? I can't take them at all, because I'd need to be taking them daily. Sigh. That's my bad news. My, good news, yep! Got a whole long list of ways to deal with anxiety off med! More on that in a bit :)



* Addiction & Abuse are 2 entirely different creatures.
- You can be addicted to something and not abusing it (intentional medical addiction is a great example).
- You can be abusing something and not be addicted to it (think stereotypical college kids and drinking. Are they abusing alcohol? Yes. But most can stop on a dime and not suffer a single withdrawal symptom).
- You can both be addicted to something and be abusing it (think 12-step programs).
 
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@Heather said, "I'm being tapered off my Klonopin. I'm not happy about it at all. The new APRN I am seeing thinks they are a bad idea. I have never abused a drug in my life and am not addicted. I take as prescribed.

Yet, she doesn't care."


Heather, if you are being tapered off and you are out of meds but have been taking as prescribed... then you've completed the tapering. Is that correct?
If so what you are experiencing is the med withdrawal. For some meds it doesn't matter if it's 4 months or 10 years. Did you do the taper before you ran out of your anxiety med the way the APRN instructed?

Deep breathing only getting you to yawning, I don't see as an altogether bad thing. Why do you?
I think I would re-examine, "The new APRN doesn't care" versus "The new APRN thinks this med is a bad idea and I disagree."

Even shorter term use of the med will get you withdrawal effects whether you abused it or not.
 
Even shorter term use of the med will get you withdrawal effects whether you abused it or not.

Depends on the person and the med and how its taken. Im not on this one but I am on a benzo, and have been for 7 yrs, i dont take them on my days off, been off of it this week off of work (trying out a new med but Dr told me not to stop the Xanax...i stopped it...and the new med isnt at a mg that it will help my anxiety yet), and stopped taking it for a few months once...all cold turkey no tapering and had no withdrawls.

But theres a huge difference in only take it when you need it and taking it as prescribed. Im a week over due for my Xanax and theres still a half of a bottle left.

@Heather, im not saying you did or are abusing it, or did anything wrong, but you can become addicted when you take it as prescribed and it is your Dr's responsibilty to taper you off if you have a physical dependance (different than abusing a med) and there are plenty of non-benzo anxiety meds. Benzos are very addicting.

Until then, give What's Up and the app JL gave a try. I can bring down severe anxiety to zero with some things in there. Its worth a try.
 
I'm being tapered off my Klonopin. I'm not happy about it at all. The new APRN I am seeing thinks they...
BenzoBuddies! There are some Facebook groups for people tapering off benzos but there are a lot of people there complaining about symptoms which, in my opinion, are not necessarily related to benzo withdrawal. Also google "Ashton Manual" and show it to your doctor. Tell him/her you need to taper off benzos gradually; that is the safest and best way to do it... Good luck!
 
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