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Suicide Ideation

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What is this nonsense?

Do others have daily constant thoughts too?
Suicidal thoughts aren't normal... I recently realized that. (That was an ephiphany for me.. What is it like to not think of suicide? How do they feel normally? Weird shit.)


Anyways.
I've always struggled with it. About 11 years.

Dear god. What do I do? How do I stop it?
Or will it always be a constant battle?
 
:hug:

I know it can get better. I haven't struggled with it for that long though. Mine is intermittent with long stretches of good periods of no suicidal thoughts. It can/does cycle though.

Sometimes it takes just white knuckling through the pain until you find something that helps. I know it's not the greatest------but I think the hope that something will help keeps me pushing forward.

:hug:
 
I'm just tired of hoping and suffering and. Hanging on and it doesn't get better it really doesn't.
It hasn't in 11 years... I. Just going off facts.
 
Do others have daily constant thoughts too?

Raises my hand high. Ive had suicidal thoughts daily (some worse then others and some better than others) every single day since i was 8. Im now 35.

What do I do? How do I stop it?
Or will it always be a constant battle?

Will it be a constantly forever battle, no, not if you are in therapy anyway. Make a suicide contract with your therapy of what you will do in a 'on the edge' crisis (do it in a calmer state as in non-calm states thinking is out the window thus why its better to have it written steps), make sure your therapy knows, and get a therapist if you dont have one.

I suppose i listed those in backwards order so read it backwards lol.

Will it be forever, no. It has gotten tremedsly less; both less frequently going on the edge and less intense as im going through therapy. Working with a therapist with an open dialog about this is enssential. Dont be scared they will hospitalize you on spot as that doesnt always happen. My therapist gauges my suicidal thoughts, self harm and those thoughts and urges as well as other on each weekly session.

Keep moving, it gets better!
 
Yes, I often have these thoughts.....they can last for months and then fade. Usually around anniversary times or moment of prolonged stress and worry. I've almost just come to accept them at times.

My best defense? Stopping my self and really saying that the thoughts I'm having are the result of xyz... " I am struggling because....." Or just recognizing the feeling the time having at that moment.

Also, and this may seem stupid. But I have times where I really just NEED to feed my bodies need and desire for something drastic. I love to hike and I love to hike to tall Mt sides and steep edges/cliffs. I'm safe...I don't jump. But I need the rush! High Impact exercise and movement helps me too
 
My god I just don't know.
My heads just screaming at me.
I just want to die. I didn't ask to be here. And im suffering.
 
I just want to die. I didn't ask to be here. And im suffering.

Im betting you dont want to really die but rather the hurting to stop.

Try some Ground techniques (holding ice cubes seems to help me).

http://www.healthyplace.com/blogs/treatinganxiety/2010/09/top-21-anxiety-grounding-techniques/

Try some DBT distracting techniques:

http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/distract.htm

And distress tolerance:

http://www.getselfhelp.co.uk/distresstolerance.htm

And if none of that helps, its time to ask for help via either a crisis line or a hospital.

There is also chat crisis: http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org/gethelp/lifelinechat.aspx

and text crisis: Link Removed
 
Constant? No. Daily? Yes. For roughly the last 4 years.

Most of the time they're fleeting. Sometimes they last hours.

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My first 5 year run being highly symptomatic, there was a near constant for several years, and I also acted on them. Regardless of where I was at on the spectrum (suicidal ideation to suicidality). Probably the best way my level of near-constant could be put was Death-wish. I was crazy as f*ck. Kept doing more and more insane BS, and kept somehow surviving it. By luck, not skill. As I started getting better I simply stopped caring if I lived or died. Still did a whole lot of insane shit. But I didn't seek it out, anymore, and wasn't disappointed or angry to come out the other side, or wake up. Well. Still breathing. Okay, then. What's next?

((I often wonder at people when they say they don't care if they lived or died. Do they mean it? Like really mean it? During my years spent there I could -and did- have conversations with a gun to my head as cooly as I would have a conversation drinking espresso. Before I got to the point of not caring, I'd be provoking the person holding it to pull the trigger. Once I actually started to prefer living? Before I even wanted to live, but merely preferred it? Shazaam! Adrenaline rush. Whew! That'll wake ya up in the morning! But the not caring? I've found that most people, when death is shoved down their throat -whether it's a gun to the face, or a cancer diagnosis, or dangling into thin air- suddenly find either a desire to live or a fear of death. My rule, though, is to take people at their word, until proven wrong. Keeps shit simple. And if they're exaggerating, that's on them. Because different shit works in those 3 different situations; death wish, don't care one way or the other, or apathy. And that's what some SI to not caring until death is actually on the table really is; an apathy for life, not a desire for death. Threaten someone who's actually suicidal with death? Goodnight Irene. Threaten someone whose real problem is apathy? Look ma! We've got traction! Anyhow. I digress. My real point being, I break this shit down really specifically, because I've lived in the dark a long time, and there are some real serious degrees to where the dark can take me, and vastly different coping mechanisms "work" depending on where I'm really at.))

This time, it's a very different thing. I'm a helluva lot more self aware, for one thing, and I've been working my ass off to not let myself go where I very easily go given even just a little bit of slack. Last time it was near constant, and I ran with it. This time it's fleeting to hours, and I fight it really really hard.

***

In between my first 5 years symptomatic & this 4 year run... I had about a decade where I was virtually asymptomatic. Even ideation was an exceptionally rare thing. At most maybe a few times a year, and more often years in between.

That's part of what I'm working towards in getting my symptoms under control / dealing with and managing my PTSD. My SI is very strongly and clearly linked for when my PTSD is out of hand. Once I get that managed, again, I would be very much surprised if the SI stuck around existing on its own.
 
I have daily thoughts. Some days more than others. I could drive down to road and see a tree or a truck and tell myself do it. I always have pills with me and throughout the day depending on triggers or flashbacks I will tell myself do it. Everytime I go over bridges I look to see if I would live or die if I jump. Do I want to die...no. Do I think this world would be better off with a defective and damaged and depressed person....yes! I am standing in line waiting for my turn to come -I would gladly die in place of others. I just don't think this world is worth having me be apart of it. Does the daily thoughts scare me...absolutely. But until I have more confidence with my body and myself and a better self esteem as well as trust others and myself-I think these thoughts will stay. The thoughts also tell me I have a choice. It's the only thing I have control of-as a child I had no control. Just my thoughts-anyhow your not alone .
 
What is this nonsense?

Do others have daily constant thoughts too?
Suicidal thoughts aren't normal... I...

I wrote about music in an earlier post. I listen to songs like "a Toute le Monde" by Megadeth over and over. To all the world, to all my friends, I love you all, now I must leave. Dave Mustaine said this song isn't about suicide. Whatever. More than a few Alice In Chains songs. GnR Don't Cry or Estranged. They seem to soothe me a bit
 
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