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Is Anyone Choosing To Deal With Ptsd Without Meds?

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What I have found with meds is I am more "numb" with them. Too some this may be good-process trauma w...

Have you read the book "The Body Keeps the Score"? He (the trauma researcher) talks about how meds stop people from feeling - the good feels, and also the negative feelings connected to trauma - which also means that they can't fully process it, in his understanding.
 
When I was hospitalized a few years ago for a very serious suicide attempt, I went nose to nose with the head psychiatrist. He wanted me on meds and I flat out refused. I've been on meds in the past and hated everyone of them EXCEPT Cymbalta. BUT coming off of Cymbalta I PRAYED for death.

Anyways, we argued back and forth and he finally agreed with me that most of the meds for PTSD are plain shit drugs. They give you one, and most of the time they end up giving you another one to combat the side effects from the first one and it can go on and on. Or you end up having so many side effects that they have to keep giving you different ones. Which mean, weaning off one while taking another.

If you are mainly struggling with anxiety and your blood pressure is ok, then you might be a candidate for a low dose of a high blood pressure med. can't remember the name, but supposedly it helps with anxiety.

Yes, everyone is different and we all react to meds differently. I just plain out refuse to take them even when I'm at my worst...... It's a choice.
 
I've got a packet of pills in front of me and I'm really not sure about taking them longterm. I've taken one so far. My Anxiety and Depression are pretty awful and I don't want to take anything that will make me worse, even temporarily - because I'm not sure I could battle it out if it did take a dive due to medication. I'm also finding the pills exhausting, which makes everything worse.
@heyheyhey - are you referring to stopping meds that you have been taking? Or are you referring to meds that you have not yet started?

Regardless if meds are a good fit for you or not, suddenly stopping medication someone is already taking without medical advise is a really dangerous thing to do.

If this is about meds you haven't started, then it might be good to talk through all the pros and cons with your therapist and doctor to factor in any reasons they might think meds are or are not a good idea.

With or without meds, it's great you are looking into all the treatment options that might help you recover. DBT and trauma focused CBT might be a great fit for you. Both have helped me considerably.
 
Haven't read all the responses but here's my experience. I was on gabapentin for six years. It allowed me to get my footing and make it through work. Xanax did too until I started abusing it.

Six years ago I came off pharma. It's been incredibly difficult and expensive (more therapy & acupuncture) but worth the effort and heartache. Couldn't have done it ten years ago. But I also had my T's full support. She was a psychiatrist in a past life. Still is just doesn't dole drugs.

As long as your health supporters are in agreement, and you're ready for the shit that comes, go for it.
 
The idea of medication for the dificulties we face in living is based on an unproven paradigm;

that there is a chemical cause to the problem
I agree that there is scant understanding of the brain, mood, how it works.

Personally - I lived without antidepressants for a long, long time. When my dysthemic depression was overwhelmed by a major depressive episode, I started meds, because something needed to happen. I had ground to a halt.

I was prescribed an SNRI - there is more data backing these up - both in terms of efficacy and discontinuation syndrome. (@Anarchy - the 'brain zaps' you mentioned, as far as I am aware, are actually associated with SNRIs, not SSRIs; there are pretty big differences between the two).

However it worked, it did work. The SNRI eliminated a number of the physical symptoms of the depression, and that allowed me to engage in cognitive therapy. I have never experienced a mood lift from any of the classes of meds I've taken, since. What they do for me is very real, though - they cut the 'bottom' off of the depression, making it easier to not go so low. This ends up helping me stay alive.

Again: I'm talking about depression, not PTSD. My depression is pervasive and treatment-resistant. Since my initial episode, I've had two more, and I'm not sure I've really come out of the last one. From the inside, I am fairly sure that without the meds, I would be non-functioning. My family also has a heavy genetic load, mental-illness wise. So, personally - I don't believe it's all nonsense. I believe there are some of us who benefit from psychotropic medication, and legitimately need it. I don't know if Ill ever get off of it.

But that's not nearly the case for everyone, and I don't disagree that there's a lot of bad meds out there, a lot of bad prescribing, and certainly in the US it's big business, which makes it all the more unreliable.

SSRIs are proving, more and more, to be no better than placebo. But SNRIs have greater efficacy rates, as do Antipsychotics, Atypical Antipsychotics, Mood stabilizers, MAOIs, and anti-convulsants.

There is no medication that is actually 'for' PTSD. When medicating PTSD, you are focusing on which symptoms you need help managing, that's all.

And..getting back to the main topic - for PTSD, I've taken various benzos PRN (as needed), and was using Prazosin for a time for sleep, until that needed to be switched and was gabapentin for awhile. Currently, I'm not medicated for PTSD, only for major depression.
 
When I was hospitalized a few years ago for a very serious suicide attempt, I went nose to nose with the...

Withdrawal from Cymbalta was horrible for me as well. I tried to go off it for an enite year. Then I had to get a medical test that required me to go off five meds in two weeks, one of which was Cymbalta. I don't know how I did it. Those two weeks were some of the worst I've experienced.
 
When I was hospitalized a few years ago for a very serious suicide attempt, I went nose to nose with the...

Hey @She Cat! Are you talking about beta blockers? I have them and am fine taking them...it's nice to have something in my arsenal! Without actually impacting brain chemistry...I am interested in doing this via acupucture and exercise - but in those cases I can see clean, predictable results - not negative ones, like I'm having on the anti-depressants. Exhaustion is not good news for me, so anything that makes me more tired on top of my poor sleep is not good news, even if it's short term....
 
@heyheyhey - are you referring to stopping meds that you have been taking? Or are...

Hey @Justmehere, awesome thank you! Do you have any resources on DBT that you'd recommend? I'll look into booking some CBT....currently using a book for panic attacks on CBT - very helpful for me! I took like one pill and haven't taken another one...think I'm okay?
 
What's the hang up on reaching out to the prescribing doc and letting them know you would like to stop taking them and making sure it's ok that you stopped cold turkey?

Stopping some psych meds cold turkey can lead to seizures without any pre existing seizure disorder and other possible serious sudden medical problems days or longer after suddenly stopping. Even if that's not a danger, it would be good for your treatment team to know and be in the loop. They are there to help in a way that respects your choices and decisions about what treatment you feel best fits your needs. You are the driver of your treatment, but don't forget to include them even if you are moving on to other options.

Studies have shown that the number one factor in any particular therapy being helpful is not he type of therapy, but the relationship between client and provider. It is huge.

A really great resource for DBT is dbtselfhelp.com. There are some good workbooks as well.

I really like a workbook called
"The Mindfulness and Acceptance Workbook for Anxiety: A Guide to Breaking Free from Anxiety, Phobias, and Worry Using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy" by Eifert and Forsyth. It's actually ACT therapy, which is a blend of various techniques including DBT and CBT.

I don't know of any specific resources I would recommend for TF-CBT, but there is a lot online.
 
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