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General Physically sick (constipation), when should i make him see a doctor?

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Yes, like a bit bleeding again... only a bit and only sometimes but it is there. We have really soft toilet paper. I am sure it is not the paper.

And there is something else: he has got backaches and we had no idea why but after a while we figured it is whenever his constipation is bad. Today was an example. He had a really bad backache this morning but after he has used the bathroom it was gone...

...and the fact that his constipation can be really, really bad. He sometimes needs lots and lots of time in the bathroom.
 
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"He actually likes junk food very much, but I try to cook as healthful as possible. I have a started a thread about this issue (wanna talk about cooking for your Vet who dislikes alfalfa sprots). The name sums it up. He likes healthy things only if they do not taste to healthful. I do not think he wants to give up on junkfood. He likes it way too much. He cut down on it, because he was trying to loose weight (and has lost weight by the way), but this adds to the quality of his life and I do not think he wants to give up on this. First thing he did when he was better today? Eat some icecream with chocolate sauce. Yep, i could have told him to eat alfalfa sprots instead but he would not have listened."

I hear ya', @Never_falter . I remember responding to that thread, too, now that you mention it. I wouldn't choose alfalfa sprouts over ice cream either. lol That's why I had to learn to make things more healthful AND tasty for myself....like freezing bananas and making "nice cream", instead, with a little nut butter mixed in, melted non-dairy chocolate chips on top, with whipped cream made from aquafaba (chickpea bean water after cooking dried chickpeas) or coconut milk to finish it off.

Can't just run out and grab that, though, it takes time, tools, and effort to make it from scratch, and even planning ahead to freeze the bananas...which is where many get stuck for many reasons, and where I stayed stuck for most of my life, until I broke down to the point of not being able to juggle everything else and HAD to make my health my full-time job. It seems the more convenient it is, the less healthy it is, or at least that's how my experience has been based on what I used to eat.

I used to be fully convinced healthy must automatically equal tasteless/disgusting, too, based on my very limited exposure to genuinely healthy things...just like with the typical foods I used to choose, my taste buds were more used to the highly marketed and highly processed "healthier" options, mostly, for convenience sake...until my life depended on me learning otherwise. I found the drastic consumption adjustments haven't lessened my quality of life at all, albeit having been uncomfortable as all get out for quite some time as I continued to learn more, and is still uncomfortable in most places one must visit in day to day happenings, but rather improved it in ways I thought were long gone from my forecasted realm of possibilities, especially from what info/methods the docs were giving me.

Whereas before, my quality of life, as well as the lives of those who love me and live with me, had been suffering like a mofo by trying to constantly accommodate all of my ills/discomfort and figure out the never ending list of the (now) obvious (to me) food related issues I'd been unaware of up until the point of actually diving in and experimenting, with experienced guidance, of course. Everyone is different and it's hard as hell to change taste bud habits after a lifetime of having been taught otherwise. Been there, felt that, still do.
 
I am not a licenced medical practitioner. Never take my advice over that of an actual medical professional. Especially over the Internet.

He had a really bad backache this morning but after he has used the bathroom it was gone...
Could be a muscle strain from trying to push it out.

He sometimes needs lots and lots of time in the bathroom
Bad posture while sitting on the bog for extended periods straining to defecate, can definitely cause back pain.
 
@Neverthesame and everybody who is constipated/who has a guy who is constipated May I ask a few embarrassing question. I know you are not a doctor but a paramedic and this not your Field of expertise but there is a few questions I found no answersfor and I hope that this not too embarrassing to ask

1. How much of straining/grunting is actually okay? I know constipated people need to strain but mine needs to strain so much that he needs to grunt and be loud and not only for a short time but often for the whole time he needs to use the bathroom. I did some research and found only infos on babies needing to do that. Is this okay for grown ups or something he needs to discuss with a doctor?

2. How much of „bathroom time“ per try is okay and when do you need to see a doctor ASAP?

3. How many days of „only a few rabbit pellets“ are okay?

4. Is it normal to feel an extremely strong need to use a bathroom after a bigger meal? I know it is normal a lot of people feel like they need to use the bathroom after breakfast... but my husband sometimes avoids eating properly on his job when his constitpation is bad. For two reasons one is loss of appetite when constipation is bad and one is the fact that he „cannot“ use the bathroom there for „pooping“. Why „cannot“ use it? Because there sometimes places he feels very bad about because of ptsd and one is the bathroom they have on his job. So he does not want to stay there for a long time. So he eats some chocolate instead (for example) which of course is not healthful.

I really would like him to discuss this more with adoctor buthe does not want to.
 
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I'll try my best, but. Huge, very important but.
I need to be perfectly clear that the last time I was anything resembling a medical professional in any capacity, was over 10 years ago.
Everything I learned then, should be considered out of date.
I know it sounds paranoid that I am harping on this, but people can easily be too trusting of someone who has claimed to be in a professional capacity when it comes to medicine.
I say "claimed" because this is all I have done. I have never provided documentation for my education nor any information that anyone can use to prove that I am who I say I am. Or did what I say I've done.

I'm a random guy on the Internet. It is super important I make that clear. Ok?
It's not an ego thing for me, I'm on this site because of people who died under my care. I could do real harm if I run my mouth like I'm somehow qualified to assess a person over the internet.

It's very important to me that you never take anything I say over that of a licensed medical practitioner, who actually can physically assess your husband's health.

I do not hold a licence to practice medicine in any capacity. I don't currently even have a first aid certification. Please bear that in mind, first and foremost for everything I write after this.

Now, I'll try to answer as best I can.
1. How much of straining/grunting is actually okay?
Probably fine, right up until it starts to strain muscles or irritate the mucosa of the rectum. In my personal experience, straining too much, has caused me to have the feeling that I'm not empty, even when I am. So I have learned to just get up and sip water until I think I'll make some progress.

2. How much of „bathroom time“ per try is okay and when do you need to see a doctor ASAP?
Preferably before before it starts coming back out the way it went in.
Sounds like a joke, but it's a real thing. Though, it's extremely rare and no normal person could tolerate the pain long enough for fecal vomiting to occur.

I would say that if it's enough time and grunting to make your wife worry about you. That's probably when you should see a doctor.

3. How many days of „only a few rabbit pellets“ are okay?
I have no idea.
I would guess, it depends on how much food is going in, how much is being digested and how quickly that specific person's digestive tract turns stomach contents into poo.

4. Is it normal to feel an extremely strong need to use a bathroom after a bigger meal?
As far as I know, yes.
That doesn't happen to you?

my husband sometimes avoids eating properly on his job when his constitpation is bad. For two reasons one is loss of appetite when constipation is bad and one is the fact that he „cannot“ use the bathroom there for „pooping“.
This I understand.
Where I work, it's not uncommon for people to disappear for excessive periods of time "pooping".
When it happens too often it makes you look like you're just shirking your duties. It's also hard to focus on your work through the cramps.
I don't smoke cigarettes at work when I feel this way either, as nicotine irritates the bowel, as does caffeine.

Why „cannot“ use it? Because there sometimes places he feels very bad about because of ptsd and one is the bathroom they have on his job.
I don't like public toilets either. But that's probably more to do with my primary school years than ptsd. But that's me.

Having to make several trips to the toilet at work in a couple of hours, is not amusing in the least.
Especially when someone notices and asks if I'm ok. It's silly but I find it embarrassing all the same.

I would say that if it's really affecting his quality of life, it would be important for him to see his doctor.
Even if no harm will come to him health wise. It still sounds like it's making him miserable.
A physician could refer him to a dietitian, who could work with him to find a plan that meets his needs, while still appealing to his taste of food.
I would encourage him to go.
As no harm will come to him, aside from a little embarrassment from at least a basic appointment with his physician.
 
After recently downing 2 chocolate bars after I'd already been experiencing some poo "going" issues...well...thank you @Neverthesame.

For the recently added Atomoxetine (for my A.D.H.D. and also for my S.A.D.) seems to be causing me constipation as well.

I appreciate your above-post re: constipation.
 
@Neverthesame: I hope I did not stress you. I did not want to I am sorry... I planned to talk to a medical doctor or make him talk to a doctor anyway. If anything your thread convinced me even more that this is what I should be doing. So don‘t worry, okay.

I have got a problem but it is not your fault @Neverthesame. My husband actually does not like seeing a medical doctor very much. This is always the case... for example when he has the flu..and is sick... but does not want to see a doctor... no... and I am very worried.
He thinks that people who see the doctor are pathetic little whiners. So he does not want to see a doctor, he does not want me to phone a doctor and ask for advice about his health.
So I am not sure what to do to convince him... yet.

I think do not think that public rest rooms are a bad stressor for many Vets but I am not sure because I discussed them just with two Vets (one of them mine) and both counted them among the worst places for them... but may also be just a coincidence.
Why are public rest rooms so bad? Because they have cabins and you never know what or who is in this cabins. You cannot see it. My husband opens the cabins which are not occupied when he enters a restroom so he can see what is in there but what about the ones which are occupied. He knows somebody or something is in there but cannot controll what it is. The restroom at his workplace has only one door and the cabin closest to the door is often occupied. So he has to use one further away from the door. Whatever is in there could come out and it is between him and the door then. That is a scary thought isn‘t it? One of the worst fears of Vets is that something is between them and the door. You can do them a great favour by letting them have the rest room cabin (or the table in a restaurant or the seat in a cinema) next to the door. A few weeks ago I saw two men in a fast food restaurant who were wearing the jackets of a Vets club. I squeezed to a table with three other women I did not know. I guess they thought I was weird but I wanted to leave the table closest to the exit free for the Vets. I did not know them and maybe they did not even need a place near the exit but maybe they did and it helped a bit. I am wondering if it is a good idea to start a thread about Common stressors and triggers for vets and how to help a bit... but not Monday or Tuesday because I have lots of things to do and spend too much time here lately (two children trying to climb me as I write this, really need to stop soon, but this is a topic I need to talk about).

So back to topic. My husband is scared of that restroom... and he has people working under him who’re actually lazy and he wants to turn them around. He thinks that the best idea is to lead by example and be hardworking... and that means not spending excessive time at the rest room...and I think he is also a bit ashamed because as I said he needs to „grunt“.

However he needs to work a lot, spends a lot of time there and spends a lot of time traveling home because he works in another place... so he has little time with us... and of course I do not like it so much if he spends lots of this time in the bathroom... but it is not the reason I want him to see a doctor... no I am really worried about his health...
 
I think in his this is related to his PTSD... or to put it in other words... that one of the reasons why he does not want to use this restroom is his PTSD. Sometimes a place feels very scary to him and this is one example.
The shower room in one of our fitness place was another example. It had a few cabins for the people who were to shy to undress in front of everybody in order to shower. He would not use that room. He would drive home sweaty... we do not go there anymore, now have a home gym and I think. Same thing with the showers in our public bath. He cannot use them. They have this cabins.
Yep and then there is the other reasons I just described which have nothing to do with PTSD.

Maybe it is just coincidence. So I guess your Vet has no problems with the cabins?

Sometimes a thing just freaks mine out and those cabins are one of those things. Does not like to pee on the public rest room very much either but at least he can stay close to the door, sees more and it does not take as long... but he never does it right before he leaves, on,y during the day, but right before he leaves he waits until he is home.
 
Dehydration is a chronic issue for people with PTSD, especially moderate to severe. Drinking at least 4 liters a day is good, but I've also found that drinking warm coffee (fresh is best) works really well as a laxative. However, if you're dealing with "rabbit pellets" on top of everything else, then it sounds like your vet may have a gut bacteria imbalance. Fortunately, that's pretty easy to handle.

The intestinal tract is where 80% of your body's serotonin is produced, primarily through the bacterial flora that live there. Normally, the flora is balanced and everything runs through pretty smoothly -- and you tend to rest better when you sleep. When your flora is off-balance, it can throw off your serotonin levels, cause insomnia, moodiness and irritability... and those lovely rabbit pellets.

One of the major causes of gut imbalance is improper diet. A few other members have touched upon that one, but it's more than just cutting out this or that. Fruits and veggies are great, I've had some success with blueberries (serotonin), strawberries (antioxidants), and pineapple (anti-inflammatory). However, you can eat all the fruits and veggies you want, but you can't really maintain (let alone restore) your intestinal bacteria balance without ingesting fresh probiotics. For that, you can't beat yogurt.

I kid you not, that stuff is the sh!t. Literally. :happy: It doesn't have to be anything fancy, or expensive; Siggi's makes the cleanest yogurt I can find in the States. Also, the NIH and PubMed noted that cheddar and brie cheeses are excellent probiotic foods, too. Dairy is an unfortunate necessity for human physiology, because our species is actually omnivorous -- we need both plant and animal protein for proper nutrition.

@Tornadic Thoughts is right, cooking from scratch (or even "clean") is a time-consuming PITA. However, it's a much more affordable option because you're actually consuming whole calories; your body gets more nutrients,vitamins, minerals, fibers, etc. per ounce, and satisfies your body's hunger with much less food. My fiancee has PTSD, IBS, and a partially-paralyzed stomach as well, so her flare-ups were pretty brutal. Plus, the stress of being a parent wasn't helping much.

We haven't changed our diets, or cut anything out. We simply changed how it was prepared. It's required a lot of reading boring stuff about basic chemistry, physiology, biology, and nutrition, and we haven't even scratched the surface. But I only get the rabbit pellets when I've eaten something or haven't gotten enough sleep. (Note: it's not a good idea to drink coffee after 4PM, unless you like insomnia). My fiancee gets IBS flareups and insomnia from similar culprits.

Long story short, see if you can work on restoring your vet's serotonin levels. As always, consult with your doctor but more importantly... don't be afraid to do your own research. God knows I could use a few pointers myself. Good luck, and good eats!
 
Thanks @Neverthesame and @Tornadic Thoughts and @Sweetpea76 and @Cyberluddite...for I believe a lot of us may be able to benefit from reading and applying these generous informative posts through @Never_falter's thread here...and you all's caring posts here! I know I am. Yay!

Also...I get the heebie-jeebies when I am out and have to use the restrooms...some look and smell so disgusting! YUKK!
 
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@Neverthesame: I hope I did not stress you. I did not want to I am sorry... I p...

This is going to sound really strange... but there's this thing called a "Squatty Potty". The guy who invented (and patented) it, originally designed it for his elderly mom who had trouble with constipation. He set up a Kickstarter page to help with manufacturing, got support from "Shark Tank", produced a rather brilliant promo ad for it, and the rest is history.

It's an ergonomic footstool, designed to tuck underneath the bowl when not in use, that adjusts your internal muscles back to the natural position that allows for easy "squatting". It also helps against hemorrhoids, so that's a plus for your Vet.

Fiancee and I got one a year ago, to help with the constipation. It seems to help manage her hemorrhoids pretty well. You've gotta check out the promo ad tho, it's hilarious... toilet humor at its best. All seriousness aside, I hope this helps. Lots of love to you guys!
 
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