Falling out during session.

[FauxLiz]

@joeylittle no I don’t use it for my mental health I use it for pain management. I have been on Stadol longer than I have had symptoms of ptsd.

 

[joeylittle]

Thanks for clarifying, @FauxLiz - I really mis-read that in your earlier post. All I can plead is, not enough coffee in me :coffee:

Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part.

 

[Deleted member 541]

@FauxLiz From my early 20’s till my mid 60’s I suffered with debilitating migraines. At least 14 a month. I too puked, and had to be in a dark, quiet, cool room with absolutely no noise or light. People that have never had migraines, just can’t possible understand.

I’ve tried many med and have had some success with some, but then insurance companies pull the plug and it’s onto the next one. Right now, I’m trying this generic for Imitrex. Works ok, if I can catch the headache before it turns in a migraine.

I would tell everyone to piss off, and just keep taking the medication. You have medical reasons and conditions that would cause them, so taking you off of them is foolish. I wish you the best with this....

 

[FauxLiz]

@joeylittle It's no problem I figured you just missed it at the beginning of my explanation

@She Cat, I appreciate your understanding. I have been told for years that when I go through menopause the headaches will get better. I have quit trying to explain to people that I had a complete hysterectomy almost a decade ago so I have already entered menopause and they didn't get better. I am hopeful for the new meds that will be coming out.

 

[Deleted member 541]

Mine did get better after menopause, but it wasn’t until 13 yrs later AFTER menopause..... I still occasionally get them even now.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

As a pain patient and an addict (not of the opioids - I hate opioids and if I didn't have to be on them I wouldn't be) I tell all of my doctors all of my other doctor's names, addresses, numbers, faxes, and medications and if those medications change. That includes my therapist. My only thought would be concern over opioids from one Dr and Benzos from another. Other then that, what your therapist thinks is his opinion and not medical fact. I have an implanted drug infusion pump infusing large doses of free base morphine (so large that my pain Dr says it's above the - not sure if it is approved or just recommended - dose), marcain, and clonidine directly into my spinal canal and am still given Benzos by my therapist. Before that I was on 75 mcg of Fentyal patches changed every 48 hrs and 30 mg morphine sulfate 3 times a day and before that I was on 40mg oxycotin twice a day and 30mg oxycodone 3 times a day (the pure stuff above percocet) and still, the entire time I was given benzos by my therapist. And the entire time he knew I was an addict and was huffing duster, up to 16 cans a day, for about 8 months of therapy. My therapy is based on trust and truth. He knew that if for some reason I thought I was becoming addicted I'd tell him. But I am not sure he would tell me he wouldn't see me anymore if I didn't go off of them or would call my Dr. He may have wanted to not prescribe my benzos and he may have if I was like nodding off in my therapy sessions but I never did nor was I ever addicted to either opioids or benzos so he never expressed concern.

I don't know, it's a hard call for me. I am all about truth and openness with all of my doctors. I am in the opinion of if you have nothing to hide then you hide nothing. But, then again if you have a Dr that is just under the opinion that opioids are not right to take and is not specificlly expressing concern of addiction, of numbing mental issues, or of an interaction with meds he prescribes like opioids and benzos then I would say "f*ck off" and keep taking the meds I need to be able to stand. So, yeah, that's a hard one for me. But hopefully some of this babble helps a little.

 

[FauxLiz]

@lostforgottensoul I have given names, contact information and medications to all of my doctors including therapist. However, having been burnt in the past when a doctor went behind my back and contacted my therapist when he discovered the results of my cutting. I hadn't told my t about cutting at this point and our next several sessions were very challenging as then t wanted me to talk about things I wasn't ready to disclose. Because of this I struggle trusting my medical team contacting each other. I am all for open honesty with my medical team and I know it ptsd paranoia but trusting them to do what's right not just what is politically correct is very difficult. For now I think I will stay with not authorizing consent to talk amongst themselves.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I understand @FauxLiz. Luckily none of my medical doctors have descovered I cut. My last MD (that I miss dearly whom left to work at the new VA hospital here) caught me slipping up when he asked if I had suicidal thoughts. But none of my Drs have ever called each other. Probably because I am so honest with them. I mean, not to the point of telling my medical team I cut and want to die most of the time but luckily they all sort of stay in their own lanes. I mean, if a Dr called another isn't that still breach of patient confidentality? I get its not for HIPPA as they were signed to speak with the other Dr but I'd think it would breach patient confidentality. I get "harm yourself or others" over rules but calling a hospital or refering you to a therapist is one thing but calling another specific Dr you see is another. I'd be super upset and paranoid if that happened to me so I get it.

 

[FauxLiz]

@lostforgottensoul it isn’t in the medical field considered to be a breach of any sort it you have signed authorization for them to contact which is why I refuse to sign those consent forms now. I would rather they be mad or think I am hiding something than to ever go through the shock and terror of being blindsided during an appointment with information I know I haven’t shared.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I would rather they be mad or think I am hiding something than to ever go through the shock and terror of being blindsided during an appointment with information I know I haven’t shared.

Understandable and I'd feel the same. Sorry that happened! It's rather dangerous for a therapist to act as a medical doctor or to allow his opinions (which are never facts) to effect your medical care. That's actually very scary! Who cares if he's mad at you! Maybe it's time to find a new therapist that will stay in his own lane?

 

[scout86]

I might have missed something, so let me ask for clarification.

1) Your T has expressed concern about that one drug. Is he actually saying you HAVE to stop taking it, in his opinion, or had he just expressed concern?

2) He wants permission to talk to one or more of your physicians. Has he told you, or suggested to you, that his plan is to insist that they take you off the drug? (As far I can see, he can insist till he's blue in the face & that didn't mean he'll get his way.)

3) Does your T know exactly how debilitating your migraines are? (I know people who say they have migraines, but yours are nothing like theirs!)

 

[Deanna]

n the begiinning

2) He wants permission to talk to one or more of your physicians. Has he told you, or suggested to you, that his plan is to insist that they take you off the drug? (As far I can see, he can insist till he's blue in the face & that didn't mean he'll get his way.)

A therapist doesn't over-ride a doctor. So. good question. That would actually be breach of some sort to a contract... and why this therapist did this for 3 + years was to build his practice. S0...I think this therapist knew that this wasn't going to work ito begin with ( or he thought so) and rode this pony for three plus years... anyway. My advise would be LAWYER. You paid for this service..OP

Edit:
Actually, ( after three years, you were paying for this product, so there wouldn't be anything to get there...but it doesn't stop the fact that he used your service to build his practice.)

So, OP-- why did you keep going to him? That would be asked in a court of law.