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henamedmeowl

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Recently I have learned that I have Autism specifically high functioning or what used to be referred to as Aspergers. I always knew I was different but it made me understand the dynamics around my rape, my responses, the interaction between me and the rapist, even my later rationalizations of it, and so much more. I was wondering if anyone else has a developmental disorder? Has it come up in therapy or in the process of you dealing with your trauma?
 
I'm being evaluated in a few weeks. It'd explain the list of things decades of therapy hasn't touched. I brought up the possibility a few times with my last therapist and she just said disorganized attachment looks a lot like spectrum. I think I will be a bit relieved if it turns out I am high functioning.
 
I'm on the autism spectrum. For me my autism in the past caused me to be more stuck on my trauma since people one the spectrum seem to obsess about a lot of things, even good things. When I seemed to be obsessed with my trauma my therapist tried to get me to find something else to obsess about, she since my brain needs to obsess and we can't fix that but that I could try to obsess over something healthier. My abuse was only at a very young age as my abuser died when I was six. At that point I hadn't been diagnosed with autism yet but I showed signs from a young age so I wonder if he picked me because I was an easy target. Signs of my abuse such as night terrors and anxiety was all written off by my doctors as developmental delays and other symptoms of autism, but since I unrepresented my trauma at age 16 I now know there is more to the story.
 
I'm also on the Spectrum, Asperger's specifically. It wasn't until I really understood that aspect of my mental life that the rest of my development and social difficulties started to make sense. It was a huge relief to find out about this missing piece of the puzzle, and I had to really fight with a lot of "professionals" to get it recognized, but that fight was worth it! Since its only recently that I've found out about the ASD (I've had PTSD for about 10 years before the ASD Dx), I'm still learning to navigate between what's ASD, what's PTSD, and what's just delayed development from a weird upbringing.

I now know that the obsessions and fantasies I lived in as a child (and was beat for) were all expressions of my ASD, my ability to ace any test, my struggles with math and abstract concepts, my inability to make a friend and my current inability to have any relationship that goes beyond friendship are all parts of ASD. My difficulties interpreting body language and facial expressions, knowing what to do in social situations, and my serious OCD moments (including playing the same board games with friends every time I see them, sometimes several times over and over again!) are all explained with ASD. Now that I know WHY I'm such a freak, its easier for me to be in a group and be ok with my weirdness. I've found most people are accepting of different actions if you just explain WHY. Not necessarily the whole Dx, just that I have a condition that makes social situations very challenging for me. Once people realize you aren't doing strange things on purpose, they tend to be more ok with you.

Good luck, and contact me if you ever want to talk about this.
 
I was dx'd with autism a couple of years ago at the age of 42, and dx'd with PTSD back when I was in college. The autism dx came about because pressures in present-day life exacerbated the PTSD issues, and none of the normal therapy stuff was helping.

One challenge has been to identify which issues are PTSD-related, and which ones are ASD-related. Usually it's a mix, but then we dig into the nuances of it to figure out which parts come from which sources. Another challenge has been to find what actually "helps" with any of this. It seems the PTSD treatments are at odds with many of the ASD issues. For example, a more neurotypical person dealing with flashbacks might be comforted by someone else's presence, even their touch. For me, my sensory issues make touch feel intrusive, even when I'm not in a flashback, but especially when I am experiencing a flashback. Even just being looked at feels intrusive. Even having someone aware that I'm having an emotional experience feels intrusive. I experience a feedback loop of sorts in those situations, due to the chameleon-like characteristics that help me navigate social situations. So having someone around me when I'm struggling emotionally is actually counter-productive. It took a *long* time to figure that out, and then to accept it. In the meantime, we (my support system and I) kept trying things that were "supposed" to help, but were actually making things worse.

My T is learning to work with my need for logicking my way through everything. I still don't feel "emotionally" supported in that kind of relationship, but at least I'm making progress in some significant areas--mostly current-day relationship issues. We've not yet been able to address the trauma (from long-term childhood abuse) in a way that has been successful. We've tried several approaches, and so far nothing has worked. Our plan is to attempt EMDR again, now that I'm working with a different T than the one I tried it with before. However, I've got some current family issues that keep demanding just enough attention that we can't dedicate several weeks in a row to the trauma treatment. It's very frustrating.

I do a lot of research on my own. Being an aspie, this comes naturally for me. In my research, I make lots of connections and progress on my own, then I'm able to better select the questions I need to bring forth in therapy, areas where I need an outside opinion and some objectivity. The more I understand the exact nature of my differences, the better I'm able to "translate" my thoughts and concerns in ways that other people's responses have the opportunity to be helpful.
 
Hello fellow Aspie.
Aint the world a strange place? Humans are just weird calling us weird.

We see things differently and love to naturally solve things by micro analyzing.

The hardest part in trauma is when we cannot locate the reason and rhyme leading to resultants.

Being on spectrum makes therapy MUCH harder as we are often treated as neurotypics. Our brains are wired and programmed different so it takes patience understanding and determination for a therapist to be helpful.

Still today society has stereotype and stigma of how an Aspie or anyone with Autism may appear.

The analytical trait of HF ASD Aspergers has caused me LOTS of hardship with treaters. They assume your smart enough to dig yourself out of rabbit holes...when actually digging deeper.

I have Aspergers and I am quotient 39. Evaluated 3 times.

Once upon a time a guy that called me a fukn weirdo made fun of me. He told me he is hungry and if I would make him an Ass Burger. I think he is the weirdo.
 
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I have no idea. (As in I was multiple times asked if I'm on the spectrum by docs / when actually wanting to get tested, was denied the chance for I don't 'present like a typical autistic' as I can be highly verbal.)

There's areas of social interactions I'm blind to, but doesn't apply to body language. I read body language, it's other things about interactions I've always needed heckuva guidance / rules for / clarifications on.

But I skipped quite a few steps in development when a child, and trauma in adulthood that basically stuck me in child/teen perception.

As to therapy, no, that wasn't a neurotype issue ever, that was type of trauma & authority figures issues, so far.

I basically do great - in structured environments, when rules are known (even if it's chaos/high stress, still expectable, known to happen = goodie). It's everything else that's a mess instead of a jungle I dance through.
 
This thread is actually of really high interest to me and I'd love to pick your brains.

I was diagnosed with aspergers when I was in 2nd grade. I'm pretty high functioning due to early diagnosis and intervention. I've overcome a lot of the social issues associated with aspergers/high functioning autism, but it's more of a superficial thing. I'm well spoken, well mannered, and I give off the impression of being pretty normal. I can have quite a lot to say, if I want to talk about something or find a conversation interesting. I don't have any social anxieties from the autism anymore.

I still think very differently, though, and I do have some trouble reading people, among other issues. I still have involuntary stims that I do, but I only wind up doing them in private, because in public I keep my hands busy enough for it to not happen. There are plenty of other things about me that are pretty autistic, I just hide it well enough to seem normal to most people.

I can sympathize with you @henamedmeowl : due to my aspergers I missed a lot of red flags in regards to becoming involved with my abuser and rapist. It has definitely influenced many aspects of the trip to where I'm at now.

It's interesting to read about the difficulty in therapy from more than one of you. My trauma ended only about a month and a half ago, so my PTSD diagnosis is fairly new. I've actually been having difficulty with therapy, too. I think my ability/well-ingrained-habit of hiding my autism symptoms has perhaps made it more difficult for my therapist to gauge me, and I think my autism also makes it harder for me to properly communicate with her. I have a lot of difficulty in expressing complex emotions, and I often don't show everything I'm feeling, both in speech and in body language.

I think she thinks I'm a lot further in progress than I am, but in reality I just hadn't focused much on my trauma yet - I was too busy feeling free as f*ck after having freed myself from that nightmare of a situation - I was focusing on how glad I was that I exited the psychosis that enabled me to get myself out of that situation, which is pretty freeing on its own, getting to know your brain is working in a much more normal manner again - I was focusing on things that weren't my trauma. But after last therapy session, that changed.

She tried starting me on EMDR last session by gathering information - she asked me to go into detail about what I considered to be the most difficult aspect of my trauma, set up imagery that has to do with it, etc. It didn't go well - I felt very triggered in the therapy session, and the imagery that came into my head was just outright repulsive, disgusting, and really violating feeling. It's all stuck with me too. I keep thinking about it, I keep getting triggered super easily. The "trigger intensity" of the most difficult aspect of my trauma has increased by a good margin, and it was already bad enough for me to avoid a whole lot of things before this session.

After that session, I had my first car ride home from the therapist feeling worse than when I went in, that whole car ride home was surreal. Since that session I've been having a hard time, my progress has regressed, and each day since that session has left me feeling more intense, having more dissociation, so on and so forth. Today my mother was suggesting I cut up an apple differently (already triggering enough because it involves holding a knife, which I'm trying not to be avoidant about), and she kept pressing her method for cutting apples, and I just snapped and yelled "quit trying to micromanage me!" (my abuser micromanaged the shit out of everything I did) Prior to that therapy session I had my emotions fairly under control and would generally avoid doing stuff like that and snapping, but now I've reverted back to having that happen much more easily.

It's nice to see this thread and read about other people on the spectrum having difficulty with therapy.
 
I'm being evaluated in a few weeks. It'd explain the list of things decades of therapy hasn't touched. I b...
I get her point about the disorganized attachment looking similar. I think though if you consider what you were like pretrauma then you can kinda rule out the attachment style.

I'm on the autism spectrum. For me my autism in the past caused me to be more stuck on my trauma since pe...
I feel like my aspergers factored into my abuse as well...it did make me an easy target it impacted every part of it. I am sorry to everyone for taking so long to get back to this thread..I am not doing well at all. Also, I am happy that there is a thread for this too..I have had some difficulties just overall having asperegers but having such a traumatic history and not knowing how to make friends and connect with others makes it so difficult too. I hope you are ok today.

I'm also on the Spectrum, Asperger's specifically. It wasn't until I really understood that aspect of my m...

I am having such a bad day today and reading this is so helpful. I am in so much pain and there isn't anyone to connect with or talk to because I don't know how. I am really weird too and quirky and I just try to explain to others what I am like and sometimes they get it and other times they hurt me by trying to exploit me. I am learning a lot about myself and the daydreams I relate to the fantasy world I relate to also. Everything is coming out weird right now but anyways thanks for responding.

I kept trying to respond individually to all this posts and normally I would be able but today it's just a shitshow. Anyways @Eagle3 , @8888 , @Crow, @Sweetleaf , @Ronin , @DogwoodTree , @shatter eyes I appreciate each and everyone of you guys response to my post. I apologize for taking months to reply. I am in grad school, a mom of two, suffering from cptsd, on the spectrum, and regressing drastically, while falling apart. In the last week my regression is so bad I started sucking on a binky in private just to sleep. With that said having asd for sure is what made me even more vulnerable to the person that abused me, it impacted the way I responded, and dealt with the abuse. In the aftermath it had impacted the way I cope with it and process it as well as it has interacted with my ptsd. i would like to have friends to feel close to others but i do not know how and when I try to learn which i have been for at least 5 years now people tend to try and exploit my honesty and openness about what I am like. I am still quite naive in a way I think is common for girls on the spectrum. I appear childlike and regressed often in situations where I am "myself" people find this intriguing and some try to take advantage. As a kid of course I did not have an adulting side whereas now I do.

Therapy has been in helpful in that I have been able to speak with a professional about myself weekly in order to stay out of trouble and maintain normalcy in my life. I don't think she has done anything for me besides being a really good objective person in my life. There aren't really any people in my life. It's just me. I am alone and I am always aware of this.

My ASD is not diagnosed, my T does not believe in labels and yet she has labeled me with dysthmia, cptsd, and noted that I have some dissociative tendencies. Some of my ASD difficulties include stemming, social awkwardness, communication difficulties, lack of self awareness, social awareness, I am rigid, sensory issues including touch, sounds, and visual stimuli.

I feel like no one understands me or respects the ways I connect. I don't like eye contact, I don't like to be touched, I don't like when someone tries to force me to do anything. I never feel emotionally connected unless certain steps are taken by the other person. I feel like I am too difficult to be understood.

I hope that we can support one another. Thank you so much for sharing with me.

owl
 
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Thank you for sharing this.

I think I do; I'm trying to get an assessment. People who don't want to try and understand say 'don't put labels on yourself' without realising it's a serious disorder that affects your functioning in many areas - high functioning autism is NOT about being 'a bit quirky'. I mean, really, who WANTS the misunderstood and stigmatised label of ASD for no reason?! Haha.

It was connected to so many of my difficulties earlier on in my life. I had zero self-esteem, largely because I didn't know why I was so different in fundamental ways, and why I just couldn't learn to socialise and not be constantly paralysed with fear. I physically couldn't make eye contact. I was great at some things, that went unnoticed, and constantly criticised for things that I just couldn't cope with for long. Which resulted in a constant questioning of myself.

When therapists don't understand the extent of the issues that come with ASD (and I also don't have a diagnosis - they're so hard for people to get for various reasons), I find they don't seem to understand the way I processed the traumatic issues in my life. Day to day things have always been very hard for me. I definitely have many of the traits and felt like an alien when I was very little! I don't know how many therapists in the world are simulatneously experts in ASD and PTSD though. Probably about 10!

ASD can also make people more vulnerable to abuse.
 
@lizbeth27 I attempted to get an assessment. Therapist just indicated that I likely have ASD but was quite dismissive of it because I am "high functioning". ...high functioning and anxiety go hand and hand..not to mention as you noted ..having ASD can make your more vulnerable to abuse. ..she just does not believe in labels...fml.

I had no friends and no connections at any point in my life with other people. I felt connected to my mother an we never even talked. It's really sad how little is known about ASD in adults or in women...it just sort of dimissed..I hope that you are able to get an accurate Dx nd it works it out ok. I am working on being the 11th :-)

Thanks for sharing.

-owl
 
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