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@SaharaSon some valid points you make. However last time Assad killed his own ppl with chemicals T lobbed a bomb on one of Syria's bases. That didn't go down too well with Russia, China or Assad. All out war appeared to be in the air. China & Russia quietly chided Assad for using a chemical weapon whilst at the same time standing firm with him against the US & EU and their allies.

Actually the world took a big collective breath and waited. Nobody liked it. Wasn't this T telling Assad don't go doing that again.. there is a line in the sand etc., well that was the rhetoric anyway.

Obama had the chance during his administration but decided to not hold that line. Perhaps that was a missed opportunity. Perhaps he never contemplated the breadth and totality of Assad's brutal, murderous regime. Perhaps he was thinking that Assad had friends in high places and diplomacy could work if given a chance.

Assad has a lot of control. You underestimate him I suggest. He knows he going to win his war. Nobody else has put up their hands and said "It was us...". Nobody but Assad has done that in that region before. Well, not in this particular region. Same modus operandi? Nor would 'those who watch' turn a blind eye to another antagonist lobbing a missile full of poison, entering Syrian air-space and say nought. It's not just the US & EU & allies watching that airspace.

Assad's 'friends' surely would have turned the full picture over to West post haste if they had proof it was not Assad. The type of poison used, the construction & range of the missile would be well known. We do not hear Assad saying No, not I?

Maybe the coincidence lays in T's new military appt., in the WH? Who up to ascending to his place as the top adviser known to be quite 'hawkish' when it comes to War. It's been less than 24 hrs since he took up his post and T is going to be looking to him and asking some big questions. Could it be Assad flexing his muscles drawing his own line in the sand & sending another msg to T?

I think all the different ways to die in a war. Missiles, bombs, guns and more it is just all terrible. I cannot contemplate the terror those poor ppl have endured for so many, many years. Nobody in that country is untouched by death.

Yet it appears the only weapon that really, really seems to justify total condemnation is a missile with chemicals in it? Yes! It is hellishly cruel but so too is the broken bones and blood spilt by all of the other dead & wounded in this war....the 500 million dead or displaced ppl...bc of Assad and his strength and allegiance with China & Russia.

Is it better that a whole bunch of ppl die from poison or a bomb that blasts into oblivion? The fires from conventional bombs burn's just as deep & kills as surely as a chemical bomb doesn't it? I don't understand the rhetoric and rage over one type of missile. Our screens run red from blood in Syria every day. I understand the use of CW goes against the Geneva Convention and a whole lot of other rules of engagement. Has Assad played to any rules thus far? I think not. Why not retaliate when hospitals, schools, and buses were all bombed. When aid was diverted, blown up or used to feed Assad and his league? Death is death. Assad is a war criminal millions of times over.

I think the US ppl must be so dam tired of War. Look where it has come to now? No US administration has been able to stop Assad. I do not think it was yet another player in this War risking their allegiance to the West & retaliation from Assad & his friends.

Oil is always the reason given for blood being spilt in the middle east where-ever it might fall. But now I'd suggest it is more than oil that was in contemplation when that missile was launched, I think it was just plain bloody cruelty to hasten any Assad objector's away and to score a political point to a brand new Military advisor to T. To test & push the boundaries again.

I know that there just seems to be yet another despot arising up out of the ground to replace the last. I think there must be a better plan but somebody, everybody in charge has to work out what to do. Collectively the World must speak to stop the War, (actually all War's) but I am a nobody who knows nothing.

Now we all hold our breath again...
 
avoid thermonuclear war at all costs

Oh absolutely. We, the EU, the USA & ALL it's allies have many crisis points going on all over this precious little place we call earth.

I've forgotten how many times someone somewhere has the potential right now to blow it all up. It is no longer a remote possibility. Things can crank up so quickly now. I'm feeling frustrated by all World leaders at some level.

What have we all not learned from this evil called War?:wideeyed:
 
While most of the US is distracted, Russia is warning on TV of possible nuclear war and telling people how to prepare.

The US warned Russia we will be firing rockets into Syria. Russia isn’t moving out of the way, and promises to retaliate if any soldiers die.

The sun will set soon in Syria, and if there is any strike that happens, it will be after the sun sets.
 
Russians claim to have busted the chemical attack claim and its basically my country the USA being little f*ck wads and trying to push our way into Syria. The Russians said it was a false flag to ruse the public in favor of war or stir public opinion like we've been doing in damn near every conflict we've ever been in.

In fact the Russians were warning of this false chemical claim at least a week in advance if my memory isn't wrong. Who knows who's telling the truth but considering the amount of lying my countries done to me already I'd say Russian isn't too full of shit about this. Russians found no traces of chemical attack but escalation is more than likely
 
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stir public opinion like we've been doing in damn near every conflict we've ever been in.
I wish this wasn't true. I don't trust the Russian government, but I don't trust ours either. I'm not sure there's any way, from here, to know the actual truth. This is kind of a point I tried to make earlier. We have more in common with the people of Russia than we do with the people running this country. We're all lied to and manipulated for reasons that aren't clear. I feel for the people of Syria, caught in the middle of all this.
 
Yea man the apocalypse already started in Syria. I have been following it for some time. I knew as soon as ISIS was pushed out the bigger armies would push in for control. That's what it is. Russia and US fighting for territories. I'm still pissed off how dirty we did the Kurds. We funded terrorists and little jihadi f*ckers and we never funded the Kurds. The guys we initially went into Iraq to save from Saddam. Then we left them out to dry. They're even fighting Turkey a NATO faction.

What a realization it has been to be apart of this military thinking we were doing good in order to find out the mother f*ckers in charge are full of shit and as wicked as humanly possible.

In the US we fund the rebels to over throw the power structure of other countries then we install our government approved spokesperson for that area. Same thing with the attempt in Ukraine. Just leads to these proxy wars where our military's are only involved on a small scale. While we advise and train the rebels.

Its just escalating and escalating.
 
Dead Link Removedand asked them to not join the coalition the US is now beginning to form.

We are at a point where it doesn’t matter if it was a false flag or not. (And the whole thing seems odd and very suspicious.) This whole thing is just going around and around with old rivals lining up. Iran has been building bases along the border with Israel in Syria for a long time. North Korea has had troops in Syria.

The longer this goes on, the more concerned I get.
 
That's pretty funny. Its kind of like a wolf inviting a sheep to dinner and telling the sheep not to bring his friend the sheepdog to dinner with him. :hilarious: Note, Israel is more like a lion than a sheep. I noticed the British and the French have been all gungho about going to war with the Syrians and the Russians. Maybe they are trying to drag us into a war. Perhaps we should sit back and let the Europeans go at, and spill they own blood. I doubt that Germany will do anything, most of their energy is supplied by Russia. That is to say, Russia has Germany by their family jewels.:D
 
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