Anyone who thinks he misspoke is delusional.
Wow - this is a pretty sweeping insult. And a good example of how communication breaks down. There's no discussion, no debate following a statement like this. I'd guess, you weren't really aiming for discussion. Personally, I'd rather see the thread make room for discussion/debate.
I am really scared the he wants to let some of our people be interrogated by Putin. I do not know how he can legally get away with forcing that to happen, but just the idea that he is considering it is terrifying.
And honestly, I think this is how folks who are critical of Trump can get themselves into a very weak position - both in terms of discussion, AND in terms of managing one's own anxiety. The language you're using - scared, forcing, terrifying - I know it speaks to how you feel, Hodge, and I don't want to escalate or minimize those feelings. But, I also know that it's easy for politics to feel so overwhelming and out of our own control, that it's easy to spin out into real panic. And then, that panic can be mis-directed into hyperbole.
Cactus Jack, do you really want any deaths or injuries on your hands? Is Trump really worth that to you?
This is how one goes from discussion to blame, and a kind of blame that is impossible to argue with, let alone have any kind of productive discussion with. I don't think Cactus Jack is standing directly between Trump and disaster/bloodshed.
Look: me personally, I get really gobsmacked by the comedy of errors that is this entire current administration. Did he 'mis-speak'? Sure,
because he pretty much always does. Currently, Trump's public record is full of things he's said, then taken back; or said, and then corrected; or said, and stood by, even if they were patently untrue. Somewhere in there are some things I think he's genuinely meant to say, and some things could even be factually accurate. I don't parse all of it, because the pattern has become clear. And the rest of the global leaders appear to have adjusted to it. All this means is: on the global stage,
at this point, whenever he opens his mouth he's probably going to say something problematic (at best).
It seems more relevant, right now, to watch everybody
other than him. White House staff, congress, judiciary, regional and local campaigns/elections, world leaders and
those elections, and the extremists who take action within our society - on both sides. And globally.
I mean, f*ck, there are so many things that are actually
relevant right now. And I'm not saying that the Putin/Tump press conference (and the fallout) isn't relevant, or that the actions of the president of the US aren't relevant: I'm saying, they are only part of the puzzle - and to my mind, not always the biggest part.
What's going to matter is how people in power respond. What they do. Actions. I'm far more creeped out by how the rest of the republican power-players reacted. And I remain bothered by the evolving schism in the democrat camps. I have huge problems with things Trump
does. - and those things are rarely just him, as the primary actor.
Shit he
says, at this point, is pretty unreliable. I don't think he's where to focus, anymore. I'd kind of rather know how the response has been in Russia. Makes me miss
@Chava, wherever she is....
