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Relationship First Responder Husband With Severe PTSD Has Left 3 Times

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My husband (first responder with pretty severe PTSD for 3 years) left me three times. The first time was meant to be break for both of us to heal but the second and third times were for another woman.

What I can't understand is WHY come back over and over again? He returned each time with many gifts, apologies, loving cards, along with requests for me to accept half the blame...

I thought the roller coaster was slowing, but every time it started up again. I am realizing that his stress being with me is very, very high, even though I've tried to be accommodating, cheerful, upbeat and forgiving. He is very critical, blaming, does hurtful things and then becomes very sorry.

Has anyone experienced such a roller coaster that eventually stabilized?

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My husband (first responder with pretty severe PTSD for 3 years) left me three times. The first time was meant to be break for both of us to heal but the second and third times were for another woman.

What I can't understand is WHY come back over and over again? He returned each time with many gifts, apologies, loving cards, along with requests for me to accept half the blame...

I thought the roller coaster was slowing, but every time it started up again. I am realizing that his stress being with me is very, very high, even though I've tried to be accommodating, cheerful, upbeat and forgiving. He is very critical, blaming, does hurtful things and then becomes very sorry.

Has anyone experienced such a roller coaster that eventually stabilized?

He knows he can get away with bad behavior because you always take him back. What is his incentive to stabilize when there are no consequences? I think that setting boundaries would be a good idea.
 
PTSD is not an excuse to be an asshole. If sleeping around town is unacceptable to you, you have no obligation to put up with it.
requests for me to accept half the blame...
No. You are not attached to his reproductive organ, he is. Where he sticks it is 100% his choice, yes, choice, as in, his own volition. You didn't sleep with that other woman, he did. And yes, he could have helped it. He did it anyways, knowing it would hurt you.

Being accommodating is one thing, bending over backwards for a borderline abusive bell-end is quite another.
 
Thanks for the tough love replies... I was hoping someone might have a happy story of true love winning in the end, as the devoted spouse shows enough love and acceptance to finally get through to the ptsd spouse.

I am too much of a romantic. I should know by now that the WAY he thinks, the THINGS he thinks about, and his impulsive behaviors are not going to change.

Still, if anyone has a story with a happy ending please post it!
 
Monica, I'd love to give you a happy ending story, I really would. The kind of relationship dynamic you are describing here, isn't likely to have one.

A relationship needs mutual respect to be "happy", you're describing a partner that periodically runs off to have sex with other women, then comes back begging forgiveness.

I understand why you want to file this behaviour away with his PTSD, it makes it easier to live with when you can say "he can't help it, just like he can't help having PTSD symptoms".
It helps it hurt less, makes it not feel like a callous disrespect for your feelings, just part of something that's not anyone's fault.
The problem is, PTSD doesn't cause people to cheat.

The other thing that needs mentioning.
Happy ending of the variety you are seeking here, don't just happen out of the blue.
Your talking about a very unhealthy relationship with this man. The only way your going to reasonably get a happy ending here is through a ton of hard work and a willingness to change from both of you.
If he is not willing to do this with you, forget it. I'm sorry but that's how it is. You can't make someone change. Nor is it likely he'll change without some internal motivation for doing so. He has to want too.

If you're not in therapy for yourself, please look into it. It really does help.

I hope your able to have your happy ending one day, just know it's possible through hard work, respect and love from both of you, though never a guarantee. It won't come from blind luck or denial.
I'm not trying to be tough or harsh, just realistic.
 
I know the PTSD didn't "make him cheat" . It does however cause the negative thought cycles, guilt, shame, poor judgment and impulsive behavior.

He has always been a resentful person with a difficult and intense personality. Before his PTSD I do not think he would have cheated... but you are right that there is still a CHOICE involved.

I think he does have more going on than PTSD. His emotions are so intense, changeable, and he is so sensitive to the slightest rejection. He has behaved in such controlling ways. It is widely believed that his mother (estranged from all) is a borderline personality. He grew up in a very unstable home.

He initiated the purchase of a new family home for us right after returning from a secret vacation with his mistress, then becoming so stressed around move in time that he left me for her a few days after, only to come back three weeks later... and then attempting to restart with her the day after that... this is a small part of the roller coaster. Could this back and forth be a BPD behavior?

I'm going to take a few months off of work to recover. And starting with a new psychologist tomorrow.
 
I understand why you want to file this behaviour away with his PTSD, it makes it easier to live with when you can say "he can't help it, just like he can't help having PTSD symptoms".
It helps it hurt less, makes it not feel like a callous disrespect for your feelings, just part of something that's not anyone's fault.
The problem is, PTSD doesn't cause people to cheat.


No, Monica. In my experience, the only thing that is likely to happen here is that he will continue his pattern of leaving, being with another woman and then returning when he needs you again. I have allowed that to happen almost a dozen times in the last 4 1/2 years. It doesn't stop. It doesn't get better. This last time is the first where he has brought another women into it.....emotionally, while we were still together and then immediately and right in front of me within weeks of breaking up. This makes this time easier for me in a way because I will never allow him back into my life again after being with another women. This behaviour is NOT PTSD. This behaviour is NOT acceptable. If I can save one person even a fraction of the pain I have felt over the last 4 1/2 years....especially over this last break up....I would do anything.

The push-pull of PTSD where they need space and then come back (without screwing around)...has not been my experience so I cannot speak to that. What you are experiencing and what I experienced is a very different animal. There is more going on here than PTSD....but hard to realize it when it is hidden behind that diagnosis. I cannot stress it to you enough. You are worthy of healthy love. You are worthy of fidelity. You are not a bad person for putting up boundaries and saving yourself.

Peace
 
It does however cause the negative thought cycles, guilt, shame, poor judgment and impulsive behavior.
He initiated the purchase of a new family home for us right after returning from a secret vacation with his mistress, then becoming so stressed around move in time that he left me for her a few days after, only to come back three weeks later... and then attempting to restart with her the day after that... this is a small part of the roller coaster. Could this back and forth be a BPD behavior?
No one here can diagnose him... and personality disorders in particular are huge diagnoses (even diagnosticians wade very carefully into that territory, often taking months and months of ruling out other possibilities before giving their diagnosis) .... that said? The PATTERN is classic PTSD behavior. The ptsd cup explanation

Where choice becomes involved / personal decision time is how the pattern is filled. How do they choose to manage their stress?

- Do they cheat & start new relationships (like your husband)?
- Do they end relationships & start new ones? (Different thing)
- Do they drink?
- Do they use drugs?
- Do they gamble?
- Do they cut themselves / self harm?
- Do they isolate?
- Do they lash out? (Verbally abusive)
- Do they lash out? (Physically abusive)
- Do they go to bed for a month?
- Do they drive too fast?
- Do they kick into disordered eating? (Starving, binging, binge & purge)
- Do they attempt suicide?
- Do they put themselves in life threatening situations?
- Do they exercise obsessively?
- Do they disappear into their work?

^^^^
These and dozens of other things (both healthy & unhealthy) all fall under coping mechanisms / the way people choose to deal with too much stress. They basically fall under 3 categories.
1. Thrill Seeking
2. Numbing / Avoidance
3. (Illusion of) Control
I didn’t split the list above into those groups partly out of laziness, but also because many coping mechanisms tick all 3 boxes. Drug use, for example, let’s a person choose their emotions (Control) by (Numbing/Avoiding) what they’re feeling, & is often both dangerous and a rush (thrill seeking).

Cheating is another thing that ticks all 3 boxes in several different ways. The danger of getting caught and losing their marriage (thrill seeking) along with the risk of STDs & pregnancy as well as confrontations with their affair partners’ wives/husbands/possible police involvement/work finding out/etc.; the rush of sex &/or of new love flooding their system distracting and numbing the feelings they don’t want to be feeling; & the illusion of control as they’re the ones choosing partners, times, how much risk to take (you finding out, how close to cut it / whether or not to shower, using condoms or not, physical safety, etc.).

One of the hardest things about cheating? They’re banking on your pain. They depend on you being hurt as part of the rush, what makes it exciting to them in the early stages, and then? There “gets” to be this huge emotional cathartic blow out when you do find out. Whether it’s a big fight where they blame you or they get to cry and beat themselves up and beg forgiveness (or both)... it’s a bonus for them. Big emotional blowout about something of their choosing (instead of about their trauma). No different from an addict choosing an upper to feel amazing and then a downer to feel end of the world. No different from an adrenaline junkie getting the high of the extreme sport and the pain/recovery of the broken bone. Or a cutter getting the rush of endorphins from the injury, and then the distracting pain of the wound.

That someone uses bad coping mechanisms to manage their PTSD? Super common. But also not required. As there are just as many if not more ‘good’ coping mechanisms to manage their PTSD.

- PTSD >>> Reacts strongly to stress
- People choose coping mechanisms to deal with stress & symptoms
- Those coping mechanisms can be healthy or unhealthy, hurt themselves/ others/ no one

So PTSD causes the situation where stress needs to be dealt with, but it does NOT cause someone to free-climb, or shoot heroin, or stick their dick in someone. A person can have impulse control issues, but whether they set the house on fire or eat a pint of Haagen Das? Has vastly different results. Just because the setting is the same, it doesn’t take away the personal responsibility with how they deal with the setting.

A lot of people with PTSD will “try out” a bad coping mechanism once. They cheat, but instead of the pain they cause & risks they’re taking being thrilling to them? It’s abhorrant to them. So they never do it again, and choose a different coping mechanism. At least 3 affairs in (that you know of) you know that’s not what happened. He’s banking on your pain. He’s getting off on your pain. Your getting hurt? (Or catching an STD, etc.) is part of what makes this coping mechanism work for him.

He probably loves you very much. But he also finds it acceptable to hurt you to make himself feel better. A lot of people do. Whether they beat their wives or kick their dogs after a bad day at work, or starve their kids to do drugs because it’s more important they feel better than buy groceries, or commit adultery... you’re an acceptable loss to him. To me? That’s simply not okay. You deserve better. I don’t even know you, but I DO know that you deserve to never be considered an acceptable loss by the person you love.
 
I was hoping someone might have a happy story of true love winning in the end, as the devoted spouse shows enough love and acceptance to finally get through to the ptsd spouse.

Oh honey... if only. We all wish we could love our partners all better. That shit only works in fairy tales. PTSD relationships are ROUGH, and even the good ones take hard work.

I know the PTSD didn't "make him cheat" . It does however cause the negative thought cycles, guilt, shame, poor judgment and impulsive behavior.

@Friday explained this way better than I would have. PTSD causes feelings. The behaviors used to cope with those feelings are choices. It is not “unsympathetic” to get angry/hurt/burnt out at him for doing dick things if he’s being a dick.

You are allowed your limits and expectations. f*ck that noise about being half responsible for his cheating.
 
I wish I had some words of wisdom but your last post was very informative, @Friday.

I would take PTSD out of the equation. Then you just have a run of the mill cheater. PTSD doesn't make people cheat. They do that all on their own. It's their CHOICE.

I would also ask myself why I keep taking him back. Obviously it's not from a healthy place. What is my role in the dynamic? This cycle isn't happening just because of him and his PTSD. This is a dysfunctional, unhealthy, abusive situation. For all involved.

What can you do to stop the cycle, @Monica1974? It's up to you what happens next.

Good luck!
 
I want to add that all is not lost. PTSD relationships are doable IF the symptomatic sufferer is willing to put in the hard work. What has helped me is a partner who sets boundaries with me. Yes, sometimes I hate those boundaries but I know they serve a purpose. A big one is that he does not give me in and out privileges. This means we are together and I don’t have the option of ending things when I have another freak out episode, and then coming back later. If things end, I get no further friendship with him, I get no support, I get nothing. In the past I’ve had guys put up with my yo yo behavior and it wasn’t stabilizing at all.
 
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