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General Volunteering and helping other people - can it be a symptom of ptsd?

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Never_falter2

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So my vet likes to help other people which is nice... but he likes to do it at “great emotional expense“ (the best English word I can come up with)... like when he slept only three hours... but needs to help a friend with something.
He also likes to promise to volunteer for something and then finds out he doesn’t have the time and I end up volunteering.
 
I don’t know if it is a symptom of PTSD... helping others at your own expense. That seems more like a personality trait.

However, sometimes my Vet makes plans and obligates himself, and then he frets about it until he makes himself sick. He wants to do XYZ (work, volunteer, socialize, etc.), but it stresses him out so much that he either crumples or has to drag himself along by his fingernails.

Perhaps your husband isn’t doing things at his own expense on purpose. Maybe he’s a helpful person who is overextending himself without knowing he is doing so. Sometimes my Vet has a hard time accepting he can no longer do things that he used to do. Maybe it’s the same?
 
Yes, exactly this. Vet makes a plan to volunteer at an event, Vet realizes it involves crowds and scrum (oh... sorry... I think scrum is a word from the world of rugby but I am not talking about rugby here, how is the non-rugby wird for this? Jostle?)... so he realizes it involves his triggers... has to drag himself by his fingernails... wonders how he is going to do it... all while telling nobody apart from me how he feels about this... or he finds out he even doesn’t have the time. Sometimes I help by volunteering instead of him.
Yes, he likes to help but sometimes I do think he doesn’t feel good about himself if he isn’t constantly helping those outside the family... while I often feel a little bit left alone raising our kids.
 
Yes, I think he feels that pressure to keep up appearances in public... but I do not think he needs to volunteer so much. He works and we pay our way. There is no obligation to give more to society at our own expense to my mind. I think he sees it a bit different... but I do not think we have any obligations for whatever... apart from paying our way, paying the taxes and so on.

Volunteering and helping is always nice if you have the emotional resources to do so...

People do not know Vet has ptsd, so they do ask him to volunteer because he has done so in the past... so that they think he is very likely do it again... I think it makes him feel a little honored and he doesn’t want to disappoint them.

I wonder if his ptsd plays a role... because I think it makes him feel like he is not good enough... like he failed as a soldier and he needs to make up... causes told you comes from a military family so that feeling he failed as a soldier is bad for him.
 
Avoidance?? When J was avoiding his health and diagnosis he kept himself busy. He did all kinds of things. Everything from teaching bible study to State Commander of the V.F.W. Ran his own construction company. All kinds of stuff.

When he had to slow down because he just couldn't mentally and physically handle everything and avoidance wasn't working anymore that's when PTSD hit the fan. And that's when he knew he needed help. J would love to "be that guy again" but it's just too stressful.

Could your husband be trying to avoid his disorder and symptoms? Is he still in therapy?

It's nice to see you @Never_falter2. I've been thinking about you and hope YOU are doing well. ?
 
Ultruism. I had the same thing. Volunteering compulsively for years. The best way to avoid pain and even feel good, rewarded for helping humanity. Underneath, I was avoiding the amount hate and rage I had for my mother and humanity. Could not feel bad if I was helping others? It is kind of formation reaction. However, since in therapy, I made an understanding and meaning out if it. But years, I was doing that so well as soothing mechanism and the as unable to stop until I got help.
 
That is a good question and one that requires an explanation. I did not stop volunteering when I realised my compulsion and the part of me that loved people and helping being problematic and unconscious. Nope. I stopped because I work full time and I am in school. and weirdly enough, even going to therapy school was part of my compulsion to care about others until I have become conscious of it. So today I am not volunteering because of lack of time and energy but it is something I truly enjoy and will do it again. I did some volunteer for my school last year.
For your partner, the best you can do is see for what it is and be conscious of your own reactions to him rather than changing him, change yourself to accept him.

for me at the height of my volunteer compulsion, if someone would have made stop, I would probably fell into depression or worse. Volunteer was giving me a purpose in life as a way of coping with internal conflicts that I was not aware of. Some people do it with work. Others with family events and over buzyiness. Others addiction and other thing. It is a huge spectrum that has positive way of coping all the day to real addiction and dangerous way of doing it.

One of the main reason, I did not do therapy or even felt my PTSD is because of extreme volunteer compulsion. I was giving so much. I never got a chance to feel anything.
 
I think it's totally symptomatic because for me all my behavior is. IDK if I'm changing a little or if it's just that I get to avoid people mostly. The latter most likely. Everything is a pattern and the patterns are all re enactments.
 
Hi I'm Freida and I'm a workaholic! :laugh:

Working/keeping busy/making others happy was how I coped for decades. 60 and 70 hour work weeks? No problem! Have a disaster you needed dealt with? I'm your girl! Family stress you need help to sort out? Yep I'll stay up all night and help you figure it out and then go to work on no sleep!

Some people do drugs, some drink, some stay busy.
Until you can't any more because your ptsd finally catches up to you.
Then you are just screwed :(

er. Avoidance... well... maybe but why doesn’t he just avoid PTSD by doing fun things with his family.

Ya..no. Family comes with strings and emotions and angst. Plus I have to keep them safe so it jacks my hyper vigilance all the way up. Think about a local park. You go for a picnic and you see flowers and swing sets and benches. I see the never ending dark spots in between all those things where bad guys can be hiding.I

if I'm there doing volunteer work with strangers im aware but not really caring if someone gets hurt. If I'm there with loved ones? I'm constantly checking, watching, tracking them. It's exhausting. Which makes me bitchy. Then I ruin it for everyone
 
Working/keeping busy/making others happy was how I coped for decades. 60 and 70 hour work weeks? No problem! Have a disaster you needed dealt with? I'm your girl! Family stress you need help to sort out? Yep I'll stay up all night and help you figure it out and then go to work on no sleep!

Some people do drugs, some drink, some stay busy.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!

For me, it's not avoidance but rather a distraction technique and the more brain involvement it takes, the better it is with distracting me. Distraction isn't a bad thing. It can be but you need to be able to distract until you can deal with whatever you are distracting from.

Helping others many times helps the person feel better. It won't cure the mental illness/disorder/struggle they are dealing with but it does feel good for most to help those in need. So, that is likely part of it.

But there are many parts like layers in an onion. Maybe one helps others due to their trauma. It's not avoiding or distracting nor is it making them feel better. It is part of their trauma. Not sure what else to call that or what the function would be. I guess it depends on the trauma. But this is where I'd see someone doing for others to their detriment. Like never stopping and even when they know they will be triggered but still dragging on by their fingernails.

Example. I was forced to kill animals when I was growing up, which is a part of my trauma". As an adult I volunteered at a shelter and then got involved in volunteering with the local SPCA (Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Many areas have local SPCA. Not all accepts volunteers. This one did) from a contact at the shelter. Those are the folks stopping dog fighting, closing down puppymills, responds to animal cruelity and the like. It was highly triggering and I worked off pure adrenaline mainly because I was seeing dying animals, animals with pieces of themselves ripped off, and the like. It made me feel better that these animals were saved from torture but it didn't make me feel better overall. It absolutely did not avoid or distract from my trauma. It was throwing trauma in my face everyday. Why did I do it then? Because I was forced to kill animals growing up and this was my way of atoning for that. I had and still have massive amounts of guilt there about killing animals. You can tell me that I was child and was forced to do it all day long, nothing makes that guilt go away. So, this was my way of relieving guilt and atoning for what I did. I did have to drag myself with my fingernails and I did, everytime.

That's just one example. You can put anything in it's place as long as it has to do with the person's trauma.

But, there are many volunteers that have no trauma in their past thus no PTSD. I don't think it's a sign of anything other then a kind heart and genorosity. I am not sure we should be looking to every aspect of a person's life for signs of anything. I mean, if it's costing you money that you don't have then ya'll should have a conversation. Maybe find something he can do volunteer wise in that same arra or topic (like for me it was with helping animals in need) that doesn't cost money. Just time. And understand that he may need to volunteer and that it has nothing to do with you or not wanting to spend time with you and the family but for whatever reason (be it needing to always be busy, having a distraction, or because of his trauma) it seems he may need this right now. Or it seems that way to me anyway. I, of course, could be wrong. But if it is costing you money that you don't have, you have all rights to put a boundry there. You should have a say in that.

Anyway, sorry this was so long but I hope it helps some to at least understand the different reasons one might need to volunteer.
 
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