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Sexual Assault A dude I used to know moved to my city.

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Chris-duck

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I've linked up there to the general background story. I still dunno how to describe, so that seemed easiest. For anyone who CBA clicking on it, replies in there basically said trafficking, grooming gangs and all that. But I don't really feel like arguing definitions again, heh.

Found out last night one of them moved to where I now live. He knows I live here (or would if I ever entered his mind). I don't think he moved here for me, or that I enter his mind at all but I have zero doubt that he'd recognise me if I happened to pass him on the street.

Obviously I'm in a different position now, being an adult with support and blahblah but I'm not sure how much that matters if he decides he's still pissed at me. This particular dude definitely hated me when I last saw him in England for various reasons.

I don't really know what to do, or what I think about it or anything. I've told one irl friend who said not to go anywhere alone, but we both *live* here, so I can't really have someone babysit me indefinitely for the rest of my life. I can move, but I'm not sure I want to. I can just pretend I'm unaware of this info and go along and hope that in a city of 600,000 we just never cross paths.

I really dunno. Don't know what I'm asking either. Just blahblahing and input on whatever is welcome.
 
If I can not care? I’m fine.

If I do care? It’s like a major hair cut... I barely even notice the sheer weight dragging me down until I leave the area and then WOW! I feel so LIGHT! :wideeyed:

Not caring doesn’t mean I don’t take reasonable precautions. It’s that I also don’t care about doing so. I’m perfectly comfortable being armed, and scanning, and knowing exit route, and allies, and all of it <waves hand around vaguely>. Rather than each of those things, day in and day out, being part of the pressure that just keeps building.

I’ve learned I can’t really predict which way I’m going to go... nor have I found a way to influence myself from one to the other. I just have to watch for signs of nonchalance vs signs of stress & pressure. Because, even though I can’t -yet?- shift how I react... I CAN take it into account, and bleed off far more stress & the whole self care schtick than I usually do / far more than I think I “need”... so that I’m not being buffeted by symptoms from mounting stress, in addition to the rest of it.
 
Does the local LE know anything?

As seriously, when actually thinking it's unsafe, as in I don't feel I got it for whatever reason, I tell people. If not ofi LE, even tho by this time even they got quite a few bits of my ages long stalking saga, then others that can be backup.

If none else so I got my back - running my reasoning past people - and don't do things out of too much adrenaline, depression, no f*cks given for *any* consequences be they my life or theirs, old grooming beliefs cheerfully snapped back to, and other reasons.

With added bonus to staying current and alert being I may have actual physical backup. Even should they be late, or things go wrong? They'll have enough clues to act from there.

Personally that calms me... I've done something to help justice act, even if I failed protecting myself.

But that worst end covered? Imma do everything *else* I can think of... and fight. That fight can totally look like evading the hardest. And enlisting help. And processing it so I actually am *me* about it, instead of dissociated this one or that one reaction ball to these assholes again showing up in my life.
 
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Found out last night one of them moved to where I now live.
Do you know how recent the move was? You can make some assumptions based on that info.

I think there are two categories of concerns you're talking about, and they are both valid, but would be addressed differently.

One, is a clear-eyed assessment of the potential threat level. Things like: Have they been around for a few months already and not tried to contact you? (would help you determine if you're a target). Have their life circumstances radically changed since you last knew them? (If they've had a religious conversion, or are married with kids, or work in a helping profession, etc, etc...people can be criminal shits and then turn it around. They can also go downhill. Good to know, either way). Can you find out where they live/work? (this is all social-media type stuff, internet search, etc.)

None of that stuff needs to be about convincing yourself you're safe, or diminishing your feelings. You're just wanting to get a handle on the facts, and make any reasonable assumptions you can make.

The other category has to do with those feelings, worries, thoughts - and how you manage them. All that stuff that gets dredged up by the past - stuff that you can be reasonably certain is a trauma reaction. That will be going on whether or not you're in any potential danger, and it's gonna need some addressing.

It's maybe easier to do the second category once you've done the first? But the most important thing is to give yourself permission to deal with each of them.
 
Okay so Chris. Here's the thing. Only 2 of my perps were even in my city. Three more I ran into … one was registering at my Y for basketball, one at an airport in Atlanta for a connecting flightand the other at a f'ing club on a military base long after I was out of the millitary.. It's like a possibility... but only a possibility. That's not even counting my stalker abusive ex. My area was 100-125 thousand. Perspective... but due diligence. The more a know, the safer you'll feel. Just don't run away with it.

I guess I just don't want you to gunk yourself up with the idea that the proximity of a person is something to be more than aware of... like I shared... some of mine dropped on me like a bomb from out of the f'ing blue. Prepare for contingencies, and if you can location track the guy for a while to feel better and have his identifycation stuff if need be... but keep on with your life.
 
That is tough.

Are you worried that he might do something to do you? Maybe it is trusting that the power he had over you is gone. That he now is not able to hurt you in that way again? Maybe building trust in this somehow?

If you do see him again, it is likely to be in the street by accident. So maybe building in a safety plan for yourself? Like crossing the road. Or going into a shop. Phoning a friend. Or something to take you physically away from him and in turn making you feel safer.

I haven't read your full story (sorry), so I don't know if he was convicted for what he did and if the information you have about him moving into the area is from probation or police? But if it is, is there something you can do to get him moved away again?

I'm sorry you have this to deal with.
 
Hi chris. I know how you feel. I live in a city where people are after me and it affects my life badly. Try not to make it make you paranoid or give you the fear. My mom tells me not to worry about things that haven't happened yet or might never happen.
 
I saw my arsonist in my town and was frozen, I didn't know if I should slam my car into him or drive on, or beat him down. Maybe if it's not too painful mentally go through what you would do in the event you saw him. Just know that you are safe and no longer in harm...just drive on, walk away quickly, duck out, turn around, whatever it takes to remove yourself from the scene. I remember (always) seeing his car or cars like his on the road and it was kinda triggering.

If he does come near you maybe a restraining order or move away. So sorry you are having to deal with this. F him, you are so much bigger and stronger now...
 
Hey, I stayed with my friend for the night for some distraction and head space. This'll probably be a long ass reply. So apologies.

If I can not care? I’m fine.

If I do care? It’s like a major hair cut... I barely even notice the sheer weight dragging me down until I leave the area and then WOW! I feel so LIGHT! :wideeyed:
I genuinely have no idea if I care or not. Coming back from friends in another city I felt shit coming home, but I kinda get that feeling anyway when I go home from somewhere so it's hard to tell :laugh:
Rather than each of those things, day in and day out, being part of the pressure that just keeps building.
Yeah. I don't think I have the headspace to stay aware all the time. Like I kinda amnt great at that balance thing, I have the stress out and be aware thing, or pretend it's not a thing thing.
I CAN take it into account, and bleed off far more stress & the whole self care schtick than I usually do / far more than I think I “need”... so that I’m not being buffeted by symptoms from mounting stress, in addition to the rest of it.
Yeah, I'll try n do nice shit for myself n be not a pure disaster zone in other areas of my life, heh.
Does the local LE know anything?
No. My irl mate that knows has bf in police, and he's aware (without names of me or them), but basically it'd get investigated if I reported it n made a statement even if I didn't agree to it. Cos of the scale of whatever n Scottish laws etc.
That fight can totally look like evading the hardest. And enlisting help. And processing it so I actually am *me* about it, instead of dissociated this one or that one reaction ball to these assholes again showing up in my life.
Yeah. I have a T but she's new (and basically a space filler waiting on NHS T) she barely knows any of this situation. Like I think I've said one sentence about it so far. I video call her on Friday afternoon though.
Do you know how recent the move was?
Not for certain, but I'd guess pretty recently, like past couple of weeks based on when I hear about most things.
Have they been around for a few months already and not tried to contact you? (would help you determine if you're a target). Have their life circumstances radically changed since you last knew them? (If they've had a religious conversion, or are married with kids, or work in a helping profession, etc, etc
No radical life changes. I last heard of him assaulting someone I knew about a year ago. He was married with kids when I was there, was already religious and he has refugee status so unable to work legally. So they mostly work factories etc. Most (all?) healthcare jobs I know of here require too many background checks
Can you find out where they live/work? (this is all social-media type stuff, internet search, etc.)
Without adding any to FB their profiles are private (and I am still hoping they don't even remember I exist), I have screenshots of their Facebooks but they're not on electoral register or owt, cos refugee status so can't vote. I'm not sure what else to search for, heh.
The other category has to do with those feelings, worries, thoughts - and how you manage them. All that stuff that gets dredged up by the past - stuff that you can be reasonably certain is a trauma reaction. That will be going on whether or not you're in any potential danger, and it's gonna need some addressing.
Yeah. I can't really decide whether I'm being trauma nuts, relatively balanced, or totally dissociated from it all. Or all, or neither :laugh: literally, no clue. But yah, T on Friday so ?
I guess I just don't want you to gunk yourself up with the idea that the proximity of a person is something to be more than aware of... like I shared... some of mine dropped on me like a bomb from out of the f'ing blue. Prepare for contingencies, and if you can location track the guy for a while to feel better and have his identifycation stuff if need be... but keep on with your life.
Yeah, I can take easy guesses as to where he is most likely to be in my city and where he will hang out, but Id have to track that in person, cos there's nowt online and I'm not sure that's entirely sane for me, heh.
Are you worried that he might do something to do you? Maybe it is trusting that the power he had over you is gone. That he now is not able to hurt you in that way again? Maybe building trust in this somehow?
I don't think it's much/anything to do with power over me. Not emotional power anyway. Im aware that he is still both physically stronger and more willing to fight dirty than I am. So I'm not sure the decision *is* different. The aftermath maybe, but if he sees me and decides he wants to f*ck shit up, he still can just as easily as before.
If you do see him again, it is likely to be in the street by accident. So maybe building in a safety plan for yourself? Like crossing the road. Or going into a shop. Phoning a friend. Or something to take you physically away from him and in turn making you feel safer.
Most of it happened when I'd be randomly doing day to day shit n they'd see me and take me wherever, often obvious to everyone else it was clearly by force. I spent the whole time phoning friends, crossing roads, f*cking around and hiding when I saw them. Without 24/7 hypervigilance it's impossible (you'd think I'd have that down, but despite this PTSD bollocks I'm still a very distractable person :p )
Maybe if it's not too painful mentally go through what you would do in the event you saw him.
I'd get the f*ck somewhere else. But like I said above, he sees me first, I'm pretty sure there's nowt I can do ? and I'm trying to work out if that's a trauma thought, cos it *sounds* like it. But I also genuinely think it's realistic, based on specifics from before.

Thanks everyone for replies.
 
So I ordered a delivery. N I've never pretended to be smart :laugh: but I was feeling particularly reckless when it arrived. N a dude brought it n I was like "hey. Are you from (country) cos I recognise the accent" n yes. He was. N yes he lived in (English city) n apparently a bunch of the group that hung around just came here. Although that delivery dude didn't appear to recognise me. I still may have given away my address.

Like I said, I'm essentially a reckless mess whose need for intel overrules need for safety so ?

Edit: and I also haven't heard that accent since leaving England. So I think I was caught off guard. I dunno
 
T knows now. Is gonna speak to her supervisor about whether she has to go police and will lemme know. And she asked if she could send one text a day (that I obv reply to) to check I'm okay. (not cos of harm from myself to myself, from them. Not particularly SI or SHy just now)

I think I'm more confused than owt else. Like she's being a bit melodramatic, I can't tell if I'm being underdramatic or reality is somewhere in the middle ? Literally no clue, I think I was mostly expecting a more "k n realistically what's the risk here?" as a reply n not "well, that increases my concern", heh.

That's.. annoying.
 
It must feel confusing.
But I like the sound of your T. She's asked your permission to check in on you and she is getting advice about what might need to be done.
It isn't melodramatic. It is sensible, caring, taking active steps to make sure you are safe.
I'm really glad you told her.

And I hope this awful situation you are in gets sorted for you soon.
 
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