Homeopathy

[221177]

Have many of you tried homeopathy?

I studied homeopathy for a year and in that time took all kinds of remedies, and despite over doing it, found the emotional release that it brings & changes of perspective , well & truly amazing.

Really does work on a body, mind, spirit level, and I'd recommend anyone interested in pursuing with this to find a reputable homeopath, rather than self dabble, but absolutely recommend exploring natural remedies/energetic remedies over synthesized drugs (as imho the former work with the body, and the latter although can help with levelling out for a while, can also cause further suppression).

Would be interested to hear any experiences anyone may have had in this area.. x

 

[freakofnurture]

I've got a question about homeopathy: How do you get rid of rests of preparations you don't need anymore? You can't just put them into the water cycle (directly or via evaporation), because the dilution happening then would make the preparations so extremely high in potency that they become a severe health hazard. And what about residues of the preparations peed out? Again, extreme dilution, extreme potency.
Actually, there isn't even research into the possible dire consequences of homeopathic remedies reaching toxic levels of dilution in the water cycle. This is criminal neglect on the side of the homeopathic industry and there should be an outcry about it.

 

[221177]

I'd suggest that there are so many different things in the water cycle that it doesn't bear thinking about - homeopathy is nothing compared to some of the things out there which are not reported on. Also the premise of homeopathy is that it will only work where it is needed, so can't be harmful. I'm not sure I agree totally re this, but it's a complex medicine, much of which is energetically based on intent when prescribing & taking.

I could drive myself with worrying about the impacts of each & every thing, and how hazardous everything can be. Personally I follow the belief it's best to focus on building strength and resistance from within, rather than worrying about what can affect us from outside. This follows the lines of focusing on the positive strengths rather than the negative weaknesses. With strength within, doesn't matter what chaos or danger occurs outside of us because we are effectively then immune from pretty much anything.

Just my two penneth :)

 

[freakofnurture]

... the premise of homeopathy is that it will only work where it is needed, so can't be harmful (emphasis mine).

Okay. Now think of what that means:
The the content of every ordinary random glass of tap water has been circling on earth for billions of years, having had time to dilute every single possible substance and combinations of substances that exist on this planet, including millions of now extinct herbs and animal preparations. This then means that every glass of water contains - in highly diluted, and thus highly potent state - the energy or information about absolutely everything you could ever think of using as a homeopathic remedy. Thus, tap water must be the cure for every possible illness there is.
I know of no aspect of homeopathy that involves anything that doesn't occur in nature every day (dilution and succussion, aka hefty shaking). Why then, I wonder, is there illness?

 

[221177]

But based on that premise, we could argue that because all the naturally occurring herbs, or other healing energies are around us, there equally should be no disease, but life doesn't work that way.

I believe we have all the aids we need to any disease all around us, but we have our own blockages as individuals which need to be worked through on different levels. There is no one magic pill, no instant fix with anything, and if there was, life would be incredibly short, and would seem not worth living! It's all about balance and gently releasing blockages (which cause disease/suffering) by raising our awareness and healing ourselves body, mind & spirit.

Also each individual reacts to remedies in a different way, depending on their own level of awareness and how willing they are to work with the releases that remedies aim to bring. If a remedy releases an emotion in me, but I refuse to accept the emotion, don't learn the lesson, refuse to look at what this signifies for me, then the remedy won't be as effective as if I let the emotion pass, recognise it for what it is, and understand why this area is a blockage for me in my healing journey.

 

[freakofnurture]

I understand that to mean that you agree with me that the principles of homeopathy demand that every drop of water currently present on earth is the cure for every illness in existence. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding what you say. And if you disagree, please explain to me why the efficiency of a homeopathic preparation depends on where the physical motion came from that diluted it.

If a remedy releases an emotion in me, but I refuse to accept the emotion...

You said earlier that a homeopathic preparation can never cause harm and will only work where it's needed. Therefore it should release emotions only in the exact way, amount and succession that you can handle and that helps you to progress, because stagnation or relapse mean harm.
If homeopathy isn't as specific as you claim here, it can in fact produce hazardous side effects and thus put the world in front of a giant waste problem that could harm us all.

 

[Powder]

I am not at all familiar with homeopathic approach. Is it similar to aromatherapy? I don't believe that diluted or tiny amounts produce clinical effect. But I haven't looked super far into it. Medical science conducts research to dose medications, and a clinical dose must be reached. Anything that says a substance can be a trace amount and yet have clinical results to me is a placebo effect. But I am willing to accept others' views since I haven't experimented myself. I have found some consistent results and have tried essential oils, but those are not in super tiny or dillute amounts. Intent has nothing to do with those, as far as I was concerned. Also, as water passes through soils and in the water cycle, it gets filtered into the earth. I don't worry about what is in water if it's not contaminated. Maybe I should. I have had water from the tap in places most won't drink, and I was fine. No problems. Why worry about it?

Also, some people just get through med school, chiropractic school, massage school, and the list goes on. For those people, it was about passing tests, a career, making money, and maybe helping others. But I have had the experience that there are some who are born to do healing work, who have healing properties or gifts in themselves, and the patient gets healed super fast or consistently better than with other practitioners of that field. Sometimes they have to be subtle about it, or they get bombarded by too many clients and burn out.They also tend to move around so that they don't get found out.

Thus, I think that any healing form can attract these Healer people. That is my faith. I believe that. But I can't prove it. Some forms of healing are really tough to try to prove. But people heal in various ways and on their own when they are ready, as you say in this thread.

I am not sure why water is being discussed and not sure how it relates to homeopathy. Maybe I can learn some more.

 

[221177]

I understand that to mean that you agree with me that the principles of homeopathy demand that every drop of water currently present on earth is the cure for every illness in existence. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding what you say. And if you disagree, please explain to me why the efficiency of a homeopathic preparation depends on where the physical motion came from that diluted it.You said earlier that a homeopathic preparation can never cause harm and will only work where it's needed. Therefore it should release emotions only in the exact way, amount and succession that you can handle and that helps you to progress, because stagnation or relapse mean harm.
If homeopathy isn't as specific as you claim here, it can in fact produce hazardous side effects and thus put the world in front of a giant waste problem that could harm us all.

It's more complex than that, it's energy medicine, so my understanding is it's not simply about the remedy energies being around & about for us to absorb in tap water, it's about practitioners prescribing a remedy & giving this with healing intent, and equally about the person receiving the remedy having the intent that they are about to take a remedy for x problem that they want to address. That's why I say when taking remedies everybody does different things with those remedies, intent is such a big factor. I realise this could seem like a needed big leap of faith for some re homeopathy, but it's a spiritual medicine as much as anything else, and often misunderstood. This is one reason why people say homeopathy is to be experienced, rather than understood purely theoretically - I'd echo this sentiment 100% and encourage ppl to not question what is and what isn't, but if they have a particular 'problem' acute or chronic, to go to a reptuable homeopath, and report back on findings which will then be based on experience rather than ideas.

Again this is only in my opinion from what I know about the medicine.

 

[221177]

Thus, I think that any healing form can attract these Healer people. That is my faith. I believe that. But I can't prove it. Some forms of healing are really tough to try to prove. But people heal in various ways and on their own when they are ready, as you say in this thread.

I am not sure why water is being discussed and not sure how it relates to homeopathy. Maybe I can learn some more.

Agreed. And as with any of these healing therapies, ppl should really experience them before questioning so much of the whys, what ifs & maybes, which I understand (coming from a scientific background) but some things just are, and understanding comes through experience (not a dig at you, freakofnature, but it's a common occurrence). So many ppl that doubt or worry about homeopathy or other holistic practises question the theory & truth behind them, sadly without trying them, and experiencing the wonder they can bring. Even reiki is a prime example - I know plenty of ppl that don't believe and think it's ppl scamming others, but if they try it, I think they would be happily surprised even if they couldn't initially explain *how* it works. Leap of faith n'est pas ;)

 

[221177]

Oh and just to add, we can call it placebo effect, but even non-believers/cynics can be swiftly converted to knowing that it works through experience, for me, it's the only way. I'm not going to preach that it works to anyone, just encourage them to have direct experience and then to say whether it works or doesn't work.

 

[Philippa]

I was an open-minded skeptic at one time, and believed it was all just placebo, but I also thought that even though it may be all in the mind, the mind believing it works can be enough to create healing effect...which means that the power of the mind and belief to heal the body is so great we can actually trick ourselves into healing...and there's nothing inherently wrong with that.

After experiencing many of these alternatives for myself though I have come to accept that there is so much that we don't know about the universe and, as 221177 pointed out, once you have experienced these things for yourself, there is no need to prove it to anyone else, even if you could. Everyone has to find out for themselves, and if you really want to be scientific about it, that involves experimenting on yourself, as any scientist worth their salt would do. There is nothing to lose and lots of insight to gain.

Would you rather feel silly trying something out that you think is bullshit and be pleasantly surprised, or would you prefer to never try any of it, and be content in self-righteous skepticism that gets you nowhere?

 

[Powder]

If we had to be able to explain "Why" about absolutely everything, we would have little time for much else in life. So I agree that proof is not expedient.

How different is it for some to go to counseling or therapy? I'm sure that no one can prove that one therapist or another is the best as it really depends on the intent of the person going to therapy what she or he will get out of the experience as well as what both parties are willing to bring into the flow.