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;). Shucks, where I live it's a no go still, I may end up wishing to and starting this late in life, (smiles), late-late in life, especially if I wait til the law for legal use of it passes around here.

(smiles Angelkeeper and cyber-hugs)

Wishing you all good spirit, laughter and improvements Lionheart, GoingonHope, and Sammy. *edited*

If I wait till it's legal here...I'd be d-e-a-d! In Calif. it is possible to get THC sublingual drops, and 'canni-butter' which can be used to cook with. That would be my preference.

Thanks for this thread (((Lionheart)))!!! It is always nice to find a fellow 'toker'!

Cyber(((HUGS))) to all who stop by!!
 
I just read this thread and it is interesting the similarities in age and symptoms. I am 50 and have been diagnosed with PTSD (of the complex trauma variety), major depressive disorder, and IBS. The pain that I have in my joints and bones I suspect is fibro and the arthritis is obvious. (Both flare up when I am stressed, depressed, or tired.)

As far as meds, I take an anti-d that works for me and that is it. That is my own choice as I cannot stand anything that makes me feel "altered", as then I feel I have less control. Fortunately I have a high pain tolerance, and if the pain gets too bad, I can disconnect from it. (Knew the natural childbirth classes would come in handy later in life :D)

I have chosen to battle the alphabet soup of disorders with diet, exercise, sunshine, sleep and supplements. Most of the time this works great, except when I am depressed and then really don't give a s**t about myself. Kind of played with the diet thing for a while and found a Mediterranean diet had the most favorable impact on my mood.

Stress is proven to have a negative impact on just about every system in a human body. It is not surprising those of us with a "stress disorder' would have multiple physical manifestations of the long term stress. I just hope that each of us finds a way to stop the progress.
 
Hi, Lionheart,
This is a good thread to have started. I didn't know there were others with other illnesses too. I believe there is a direct connection between the abuse and the conditions we find ourselves in.

I have high blood pressure, diabetes, CPTSD, DID, chronic fatigue, severe depression, suicidal ideation, full body flashbacks and severe muscular contractions, like when your calf suddenly cramps hard and it really hurts. For me it can be almost any muscle.

I know what episode of abuse this comes from. Muscular seizures were a direct part of an experiment which had electrodes piercing different parts of my body while a technitian dialed up the amount of electricity to particular electrodes. Remember the scene from the movie The Right Stuff when one of the potential astronauts was sitting in a student desk chair with an electrode in his arm and his hand kept seizing and seizing. It was like that only more directed at actions that mimic sexual pleasure. The shocks were timed to a metronome which went faster and faster. The metronome ticked just before the shock made me seize. The 'research' was directed by a German Dr. I remember hearing him say that this research went so much better when the children had been feed, more flesh to work with. A Navy Spook friend of ours, when I told him about it, said quickly that if I ever remember any uniforms to call him immediately. He recognized the research and knew that we had allowed in to the USA some of the Nazi Doctors.

I hope this amount of disclosure wasn't too much for anyone. I have never written about it before. When I was going through it, I couldn't think beyond the pain and exhaustion. Now that I read this back, I realized that this was just one more way of training to make me into the perfect little whore. Garanteed satisfaction every time. Imagine being able to advertize that! I guess these training sessions and others made me too valuable to die like so many others. The 32 children that I watched die or held while they were bleeding out. The numbers must be much higher. This is just what I know about.

Too triggered to continue, sorry
 
Dear Angelkeeper and Lionheart, Thank you for your support. It makes such a difference to know I am not alone. This is one of the changes that belong to the present, to speak about things kept secret.The last direct death threat was 10 years ago. So I guess and hope that the future will be safe.

Dr. Phil, whatever you think about him, he got this one pegged. "You are only as sick as your secrets." Thank you for listening.
 
I've been treated for hypertension, gastritis, ulcers, erosive arthritis, asthma, irritable bowel, depression, etc and now it is all unified under one diagnosis: PTSD.
LH - I had to laugh - I also look very young and healthy for 50 years, but my joints feel 90 also. I had a day back in January where I received an experimental infusion - and for a whole 24 hours I had no pain, no reflux/gastritis, no depression. It wasn't marijuana - but if I could feel like that one day again...
 
Mercy - it sickens me to think that anyone who is/was a doctor could inflict this kind of pain on a person who cannot consent or understand. It also sickens me to think anyone's parents or guardians could allow it. I hope your body and mind can heal giving you peace with yourself. We become our own battleground with PTSD. I hope your 'war' ends soon with much love and healing.
 
There is research looking at cannabinoid receptors and how they influence PTSD - two of the experimental agents are hundreds of times more potent than smoking pot - and it will be in a form that doesn't require smoking. Hopefully at least one of these agents will be available within the next 10 years. Maybe when we are 60 we can feel like we are 20!
 
Girl3,

I hope they come out with something for PTSD sooner than 10 years. lol. Ya know, If I am not mistaken, they make the drug digitalis for heart patients from foxglove, so what would be the big difference if they made a medicine from marijuana that treated PTSD? If it is a relatively safe medicine compared to what is out there now, I am all for it. A prescription would mean that I am being medically followed by a doctor rather than self-medicating. If a doctor had PTSD, I bet he/she would be all for medical marijuana. If it eases suffering without causing more problems then why would the government be dead-set against it unless it had to do with the financial aspects? Anyway, as you can tell I support the use of medical marijuana to treat PTSD....(or anything else that works without causing further harm)!!! :)
 
Dear Lionheart,

I used to have a lot of CPTSD symptoms with stuff that could be considered co-morbid, such as dysthemia, extreme dissociative symptomology that would fairly easily be considered severe dissociative disorders, a lot of pain, muscle spasms that could be considered for somatisation disorder, symptoms of full blown panic disorder and some other stuff. For me it has all been part of the CPTSD cluster of symtomology, by treating the CPTSD everything else has gradually come to levels where I would consider them part of the CPTSD rather than co-morbid disorders. It has been distressing but I am over half way healed in my journey, having been in therapy for over six years. I'm not sure with the dissociation as to whether at this point I would consider a co-morbid diagnosis of DDnos (dissociative disorder not otherwise specified) as I have and am learning to dissociate less, but I will see in the next few years as to whether this becomes re-triggered to a high clinical level. I have an understanding of the dissociation and as with CPTSD, although I am likely to become over 95% symtom free within the next three to five years or so, I will need to maintain an awareness of the two central symtom clusters/ conditions in order to avoid becoming clinical/ encountering clinical level symtomology again.

Apart from Asthma medication and some pain killer usage I have avoided drugs other than a few months on Citelopram several years ago which did not even touch the sides. I have used canabis all of my adult life and I genuinely find that it is the only drug that has hit the spot. It is the only thing that I have found that has the ability to to bring me down and assist me in managing symtomology, when I have been highly clinical and having chronic depersonalisation with severe flashbacks and flashforwards that have been like severe visual hallucinations. I still smoke it but less because it I need it less. Ironically it can bring symtoms of de-personalisation on briefly, but so can tobacco, acidic foods and other stuffand I find that this trigger doesn't tend to last. Other people report the same effects with de-personalisation and alcohol or coffee, whereby the same substances that can help one manage the symptoms can also at times trigger the symtoms but often at a much milder and more brief level. Compared to taking anti-depressants and anti-psychotics I would choose cannabis any day of the week for side effects as I enjoy being voluntarily stoned and spaced out, compared to thirty years of being off my trolley through CPTSD from other persons actions.

Part of the key with cannabis, IMHO, is that varieties of the species cannabis indica rather than cannabis sativa tend to have far higher levels of CBD (cannabidiol) rather than D9 THC (delta 9 tetrahydracannabinol). Scientific tests so far show far more evidence of anti-psychotic properties in CBD, where as with THC there are less anti-psychotic properties and there is a far higher but still statistically a small risk of cannabinoid induced psychosis, mainly in susceptible individuals. Personally I go for good old fashioned hash over newer skunk varieties any day. There was an interesting documentary in the UK a couple of years ago, with a professor talking about CBD's anti-psychotic effects and how the psychotic effects of the drug are real but occur incredibly less commonly in scientific terms, which sure isn't what the press would have us believe. This professor was busy preparing an anti-psychotic drug for testing in the UK. I am sure that there are lots of "witch-hunters" out there who would disagree, but my personal experience is that for me it has helped and compared to the damage caused by taking other drugs over several years I would vote cannabis myself. Ironically my younger brother blames my mental problems upon my drug use, which to me is utter horse sh*t as I have had all the symptoms since I was a child, long before taking illegal substances. From what I read on the forum it is quite normal for families to blame mental symtoms on the individual and their behaviour, rather than at least part of the responsibility on the family unit that helped create and maintain the original causes.

If I remember which documentary I will post a link to it sometime, as it might be worth watching. Ilook forward to being able to use legal and medically prepared forms of the drug before I die, however I look forward to trascending my symptom clusters in the next half a decade, which is likely to be far sooner. Hope that this post isn't too long. Best wishes upon your journey.
 
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