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Relationship Meeting My Ex-gf For The First Time Since Breaking Up

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I will be seeing my ex-gf this week for dinner and it will be the first time we will see each other in about 9 months. I broke up with her in July as I felt our relationship was causing her additional stress. I ended it with her while she was based in Afghanistan and I believe she got PTSD while there. After we broke up things were cordial but then she got really mean. It seemed like she really hated me and wanted to have nothing to do with me. I kept telling her that I never wanted to break-up with her, how I still loved her with all my heart, and that I was actually doing this for her. I did not want to be with anyone else nor had I been. I am the one that contacted her last week as I learned she has been back for 2 months and since it was her birthday I thought I would say happy birthday and invite her to dinner. I was surprised she responded to my text and more surprised she said yes to dinner. Can anyone tell me what I may expect from this dinner, how I should act, and what I should and should not possibly talk about? I never stopped missing her or loving her after we broke up or even after she got mean and stopped communicating with me altogether.
 
More detailed information about what happened between us can be found via this very long post below I did after we broke up:

We were a couple for 5 months before she deployed in February and things were amazing between us. We were inseparable and had so much fun. When she deployed to Afghanistan she was worried I would forget about her and leave her. I told her I would not because I loved her so much and a year being away is short term and our life together is long term and I was thinking long term.

Everything remained good for the first few months. We would FaceTime every day (when she woke up and before she went to sleep) and it was great to see her. There were times she would actually tear up and tell me how much she missed me and it would crush me to see her like that as I wanted to take care of her and hold her. I reassured her I am going nowhere and I am waiting for her. She actually sent me a card within the first few weeks that she got there saying, "I filled gaps in her life which she thought no man could ever fill and my love for her has made her want to start living her life of happiness and fulfillment with me". Then things slowly started to unravel.

She did not want to talk with me when she woke up so she could have "me" time and listen to music which I fully understood and supported. However, then I was supposed to move into her place in May. She was all excited about it as it was her idea to begin with before she deployed in February (I do own my place but I was going to rent it out), yet all of a sudden at the end of April she changed her mind and said she got anxiety and has issues when it comes to real commitment but still loves me so much. We talked about this and how this may affect us going forward and she said that she does not plan things (ummm...she is a logistical planner in Afghanistan) and lives her life to the max day to day because she never knows when she may die. This clearly is not true as she asked me to move into her place, we planned trips to take during her R&Rs, and we had talked about having a family together. She also stated that she considered letting me go because she did not want to waste my time in case things did not work out between us.

Then she came back in May for R&R. She actually came back 3-4 days early and surprised me at my door at 7:30am on a Saturday. It was amazing!!! She seemed happy to see me and I was definitely happy to see her. Unfortunately, as her R&R went on she started to become distant and told me to stop being too nice to her. I explained how I am always nice and I only get 10 days with her so she should be treated like a queen. That bothered her and said she wanted me to be "normal". She would sleep a lot which I understood and wanted her to as she was working a lot of hours or she then would be on her phone texting and sending messages all of the time at all hours and when I asked who she was chatting with she told me not to worry about it. We did not have sex as much as I thought we would and when I did try to initiate it she was very nonchalant about it. When I wanted to cuddle and hold her she took a "whatever" approach. I know many may say well she was cheating, but I do not think that at all because she had been lied to and cheated on with other guys, she knows how honest of a person I am and I would NEVER do that as I think cheating is disgusting, and she would not cause me that type of pain that other guys did to her. Even though she is a civilian over there she has heard and seen things that are horrible which made her very sad and upset. Conversations we had during the R&R were also not the same at all as they were before she left. Now they seemed forced a bit and did not have much substance plus she wanted to have alone time and not be near or around me. When her R&R was over she thanked me for providing her a wonderful time and told me she loved me.

Over the next month the FaceTime conversations got shorter and shorter. I know she was exhausted and wanted to go to bed. I told her if she was super tired then as much as I wanted to see and talk with her that she could just send me an email saying goodnight and get some sleep. I was trying to be as supportive as a boyfriend as possible because I cannot imagine what she sees and hears over there. Then the unthinkable happened....a baby in her family died suddenly and tragically in July and she called me to tell me about it. We then got on FaceTime and she lost it. She said, "why is this happening? This is so unfair!!!" She could not control her emotions anymore and everything started to bubble up. She made an emergency trip back to the States and this was where I saw the relationship was ending. I was there for her and did anything and everything I could to help out her and her family. She and her Mom told me how amazing I was. However, as the funeral was approaching her emotions took over and she became more distant from me and anything I did seemed to bother her. Side note that her Grandmother who she greatly loved passed away shortly before her deployment which delayed her deployment for 2 weeks. Now conversations seemed to be non-existent and she appeared to enjoy hanging out with other friends instead of me. She would stay up until 3am watching TV and would be doing stuff on her phone and if I asked her why she is up so late she would snap and say just watching TV is that OK!! If I mentioned in the morning how she came to bed so late she would snap again like I was keeping tabs on her. Note that she NEVER went to bed that late or would snap at me like that before she deployed. In fact we always went to bed about the same time and she hated it if when she woke up I was not next to her.

Then the night before the funeral she had been hanging out with her best friend (who is a great guy and I became friends with) and then her brother and after they left I came over and we started talking. She had an entire bottle of wine by herself and was pretty drunk and started to really go off about stuff in general. She told me how numb she was, how I cannot understand what she sees and hears over in Afghanistan as it is Secret and Top-Secret classified information, how her family will always come first and I will come second, how she is miserable and unhappy and does not want to be happy or want help from me or anyone. I asked her if she contacts me from Afghanistan because she wants to or because she feels she has to. She said she does it because it is part of her routine. She cried hysterically and no matter what I said or did she just got angrier.

Then surprisingly enough she decided after the funeral to extend her stay for an extra day so as she said, "we could spend some time together because we did not get to". I told her I would love that. After we extended the stay I was looking at my calendar and noticed and said under my breath but was apparently loud enough that I had a class on the day she was leaving. Without hesitation or care she said she would just have a friend take her to the airport. This is when I got mad at her and told her to stop being like this. I never said I was going to go to the class because taking her to the airport and seeing her off was more important and it was something I just noticed. She seemed to not care if I was the last one to see her off or not and said she wanted me to go to the class because she felt it was important to me. She would have never been OK with that before she deployed. We then ended up getting lunch coincidentally at the place where we had our first date which was an impromptu one (no conversation was really had during this recent lunch), saw a movie and then said goodbye to some of her family. After we got back to her place some other people, family and friends, came over to say goodbye including one of her friends who is miserable and nobody likes including her best friend. As it was getting dark out this friend made a comment how she needed to go because her headlights did not work and she said kidding around, "unless I crash over here but I do not want to intrude." Now as much as I dislike her I know she was kidding about staying the night, but without pausing my girlfriend invited her to stay over. I was in shock and dismay. The friend did not stay. All we did after everyone left was clean her place because now she planned on renting it out. She had offered for her one miserable friend to live there but the friend who has all kinds issues declined. We did not relax together at all or spend any true quality time. Once I dropped her off at the airport she did not really say she loved me or anything with affection. It became like me dropping off a friend. When she got on the plane she texted me how she was taking off soon and she will let me know when she gets back. It was very cold and emotionless.

I finally had to break up with her at the end of July. I felt the relationship was clearly causing her unneeded stress and she wanted out but was scared to pull the trigger. It was so very painful as I did not want to and we both cried but she is broken, needs help and will not let me help her. She pushed me away and became very distant. She says she does not have PTSD, but admitted within the first month of being deployed that she took a seminar or something like that and felt she may have it a little. I asked her to be honest with me and tell me if there was someone else she is with or wants to be with. She said there has not been nor is there anyone. She then a few days later emailed me and told me that she thinks the problem was that we went fast and furious in the beginning, but when she got to Afghanistan her mission became the most important and hardest she has ever had, it became her focus, I did not and I just faded away. She said we must not have had a strong enough foundation. She actually started to try and find faults with me while she was back for the funeral so I think she in her head could try and justify why we should not be together. The things she told me were actually untrue (she said I did not take her to dinner for a month once we met for drinks the first night which was untrue as I took her to dinner 5 days after we met and brought her flowers). Overall, I do not buy it at all as we were an amazing couple, clicked and had a very strong bond before she left. She would ask me when she was here in the States months before she deployed why I am so good to her, would tear up with joy and would ask me what I am doing to her in a good way because she started to show emotion when she is normally a very "tough" person. We made future plans together and she told me I was her world. Even her best friend told her she is making a mistake not being with me now and she acknowledged she might be but does not care right now. I know the compound where she is located is very cramped and isolating and she even told me how others approached her asking if it ever gets better because they may have been there for a month and stated it feels like a year. Throw in the hours she is working, what she sees and hears, and the recent deaths in the family and well you have a perfect storm.

Of course there are other things in her life that I am leaving out but based on the research I have done it seems like she has major PTSD. She became a shell of herself and completely opposite of the girl I knew and loved. She became distant, non-responsive, non-communicative, wanted space away from me, did not want to be truly affectionate with me anymore verbally or physically, told me she was numb, miserable and unhappy and did not want help. I wish there was something I could do to help her as I still care about her so much. We do not talk anymore and I miss her. I never thought we would break-up. I would love to hear thoughts on this from others.
 
I can completely relate to this and I'm sorry you're going through this. Keep the conversation light and let her drive the conversation. Be a friend with no expectations - safety and trust first. Stay in the present - enjoy your time with her - but don't think about what happens tomorrow. Or at least fake it. Stay calm no matter what. Remember it's an illness and not the person and it sounds like she sees things differently based on your comments, so do not become defensive if she is angry. She won't see things your way anyway until she decides or doesn't decide to. I've just spent 6 months defending myself from blame, accusations, and untruths and I'm still reacting to something he said to someone last night about me. Until he chooses to stop being a victim and take action I realize there is nothing I can say or do to make him believe what is true. I love him, but for now I have detached and have to allow him to do what he needs to do to get well - or stay stuck. It's his choice and he has the right to think and believe what he wants, like I do, even if it wrong :P
 
Thank you Seaotter. I am so sorry that has happened to you as well. These last 9+ months have been miserable for me. I keep blaming myself thinking maybe I could have done something or reacted better. Unfortunately, it seemed like no matter what I did it was wrong, plus since she was back in Afghanistan for a while she was not going to get better no matter what I did. Thinking about her having fun and being able to talk and be normal with others (what seemed like everyone else but me) cannot escape my head. I will let her drive the conversation and not bring up anything from the past. If she asks about it I will answer but will not lay blame and just keep it light like you said. My fear is I will tell her how much I miss and still love her and I am not sure that would be good to do for me or her.

Overall, I think a big reason why she got really mad with me after we broke up is because I was telling her best friend and our mutual friends what happened in a general sense for two reasons. One, I wanted them to understand the situation because if I could not get thru to her and help her maybe they could. Two, I did not want her to make up stories or tell half truths about why we broke up. I did not want to come across like an ass for breaking up with her while she was fighting for our country. I think you can relate because like you have said about your experience with your ex, "I've just spent 6 months defending myself from blame, accusations, and untruths and I'm still reacting to something he said to someone last night about me."

She is a very strong willed person and my fear is she will never get help, assuming she actually has PTSD, but based on all of my reserach and talking with a friend who was a psychologist she has all of the tell-tale signs of it.
 
Be a friend with no expectations - safety and trust first. Stay in the present - enjoy your time with her - but don't think about what happens tomorrow.
I so agree with this. I would also add to try not to bring up past arguments/disagreements/hurts.

Thinking about her having fun and being able to talk and be normal with others (what seemed like everyone else but me) cannot escape my head.
I am a sufferer and I had someone say almost exactly this to me recently. It was someone who I was on the fence about dating. He too said he could not understand why I could hang out with friends much more easily than I could with him. PTSD makes love scary. While I care about my friends very deeply, it's different than even the potential of the kind of emotional closeness that happens in a dating relationship. There are expectations and commitments and different levels of closeness when dating than with friends. The more I care about people, the closer I am to them, the closer they are to my heart, the harder it is for me to handle being in relationship with them. It's not them. It's the PTSD and the way it screws up things. In a weird twisted way, maybe it could also be true for her too that it is easier to be "normal" around friends than you because you are so much closer to her heart in a very different kind of way.

The fact that she is already admitting she might have PTSD "a little" is very hopeful. She may get help in time.

Try as much as possible to go out for dinner and simply celebrate her birthday and put all the rest away for now. I know this is so easy to say and so hard to do. I hope it goes well for you both.
 
Thank you so much Justmehere. All of that makes sense and when I help people with any issue they are having it is always easier when I am not "inside the box". It will definitely be tough as my birthday is on Tuesday so we will be celebrating both (her idea). I really just wanted to take her out last week and celebrate her's but she already had plans so we made it for this Wednesday night. I have to admit I am a little nervous. The biggest thing besides the breaking up with her of course was how it ended. Neither of us did anything wrong. Neither cheated, wanted to cheat, etc. It was just Afghanistan and the fact that there was nothing I could do just killed me.

It does help, in a selfish way, to read about symptoms of this illness and learn that when I think she hated me per her words and actions she probably never did. It was a defense mechanism to drive me away just like when she would make up things that bothered her about me from before she deployed.
 
I don't think you can blame yourself. Something I learned this week is that no matter what I do he will not let me in. I have reacted, not reacted, I have told him how I feel, withheld how I feel, and asked for space and I ignored him at our mutual activity for 2 nights and then he was the angriest he's ever been with me for ignoring him and days later deletes me on FB. I think the serenity prayer I also think I didn't cause it, I can't control it and I can't cure it. What I can do is make my own decisions. I love him deeply. Last night he told a friend in not so many words that I am obsessed with him and this 6 month break was him just trying to be my friend. While I admit I was obsessed in the beginning (we went from wow to off literally overnight - he went into freeze mode) this is not true. He never led me on to believe we'd be more but anytime I pulled away he'd do things to draw me back. His words and actions did not match. His actions showed he cared. Like you, I am worried about the un-truths out there and feel I have to defend myself. In all honesty, I don't think he's doing it to be malicious - I think it's his way of being the victim and not focusing on himself - I am to blame, a defense mechanism that he says about all of his exes and work situations. However, what I do know is he didn't respect me enough to tell me he was going to delete me and I cannot excuse his behaviour anymore. He expected me to be angry this week. I smiled and said hello - I am not reacting (outwardly), if he thinks I stalk him let him think that and I know different, but he will get cordial from me - no more, no less. He will likely do something else to get a reaction out of me but I will - have to - stay calm. I am doing him a disservice by not letting him go and figure his stuff out - you are wonderful for doing that, unconditionally. I am doing myself a disservice by allowing him to treat me this way - it has sucked my self-esteem. No more. I can say this - it is likely if you tell her you love her or you miss her that will add pressure and probably push her away at this point. Let her drive :)
 
Seaotter, once again this is why I like boards like this. I helps me to realize (as best as it can) that I did nothing wrong and that I am not on an island by myself. We both love the ones that have gotten like this yet they push/pull us and it becomes very painful. While we realize how hurt and confused they are due to their illness, they have no idea how hurt it makes us. I actually believe I suffered from mild depression after I ended it with her.

When I broke up with her via FaceTime (seems cowardly but that was the only way I could due to the situation) I cried like a little girl and she cried as well. I could not believe I was breaking up with her, someone who I loved so much, and having those words come out of my mouth because I did not want to end it. I did it because it was in her best interest and I struggled with the decision to do it before I actually did. After I ended it, I kept looking at all of the pictures I had of her in my place, on my computer, and on my phone and remembering the good times and how we were going to have a life together. How things seemed like they changed overnight for no reason whatsoever. It was hard to deal with so I put all of them in my closet or on a thumb drive and removed them from any device I had. However, then I would keep going to her FB page. I told her that looking at her and seeing updates about her life was driving me crazy so I was going to unfriend her not to be mean, but because I missed her so much. She said she understood. Now and then she would send me a message and we would chat back and forth for maybe a minute or two but that was it and the conversation had zero substance. It made me very sad.

Finally, one day, she sent me an email stating how she noticed I unfriended all of her friends and family from my FB account but left the ones we became mutual friends with...the ones we became friends with at the exact same time. She asked that I unfriend them because if it was not for her I would not have met them since we met all of them on a trip to PR and it was because of one her friend's who she met before we became a couple that we all became friends and if she did not invite me on the trip I would not have become friends with them. She said she wanted to continue the friendship with all of them and if I was still friends with them it would be awkward. The kicker, however, is this...she then said I would wonder why she is not unfriending all of my friends who she only met due to being my gf, such as my college friends. She said if they want to unfriend her that is their choice, but she never asked to be FB friends with them so if they want to disconnect the friendship they need to do it. It was such a double standard and mean spirited. She also asked that I stop any and all communication with the friends from PR and the one's she knew before her and I became a couple in every way whatsoever.

I did unfriend everyone, but then sent them all an email letting them know why I was doing it and if they wanted to remain friends with me that was their choice and should not be her's. Two of them became friends with me again. I also did ask all of my friends to unfriend her and they did.

Overall, I am not sure if I am looking for closure or not as I never really got it. I still love her deeply and will always love and care for her, but I am not sure if she is now the one for me. It is extremely confusing. I cannot, nor should I, force one to be with me. It is just the constant pain and thoughts running through my mind about what we would be doing as a couple and how we would be overall if she never went to Afghanistan.

Ironically, she was so concerned about us and that I may get bored and leave her that she started considering not going on the deployment (she could have backed out without punishment if she wanted as she was going as a civilian). I, however, knew she wanted to go and encouraged her to go as she signed up for this assignment before we met and I would never get in the way of what she wanted and be a possible regret for her later in life. While the assignment came 6 months earlier than she expected and the deployment was changed from a 6 month deployment to a term of 1 year I kept telling her one year is short term and no big deal as we will have a lifetime together. It never dawned on me, due to ignorance of the situation, that Afghanistan would/could change her and it would end our relationship the way it did.

Seeing her this week may be bad and/or good, but we will see how it goes. I will not be telling her that I love her and so on unless she asks. I have never lied to her about anything and I will not start now. I will answer whatever she asks me in a non-confrontational, non-argumentative manner, but I will not lie to her as I refuse to. That is not fair to her or me.
 
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My boyfriend has PTSD and Bi polar and he broke up with me 2 months ago and when into emotional shut down.
I was obviously very upset and distressed and wanted to talk about what happened and try and work through things and tell him how much I love him and miss him but he just couldn't deal with that at all and this in turn pushed him further and further away.
He did not contact me at all for the first two weeks then gradually started to respond to my text messages although in a very cold tone. The first time we met up he came over to the house and it was so relaxed and lovely, almost like nothing had happened. I talked about our relationship and how I was feeling about it all in a calm controlled manor and he listened but did not give any input as to where he was with it all.

The next time we met up I became upset and emotional asking him about our relationship, how he felt, pleading him to start counselling again... it was messy and did nothing but push him away again. I have learnt from these two meetings.

We are now meeting up one a week and going on dates. I call them dates but I am sure he wouldn't to label them. We chat about work, whats going on in each others lives etc, we still have a strong bond, kiss, cuddle and have fun. We just enjoy each others company as that is all he is able to deal with at the moment. This weekend I plucked up the courage to ask if he misses me and he said of course he does. I have had to be very patient but slowly but surely he seems to be coming back. So this is my advice to you. Take it slow, let her lead, bite your tounge or pinch yourself if you find your mind wandering to questions she may not be ready for. Its hard, so very hard but it will be worth it whan hes back.

He has agreed to see a veterans out reach worker tomorrow, so I am hoping that this will help him discuss his feelings.
Good luck x
 
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Thank you for the input abs_21. It is much appreciated as is all of the input from everyone. I am glad to hear that things are working out with you and your ex or at least it is progressing. I will definitely have to bite my tongue and not say anything that may upset her or cause friction. One fear I have is that she will ask me questions that will spark a conversation from the past. While I do not mind discussing it I am not sure she is truly ready to talk about it. My plan is if she does do that I will deflect it back to her and answer it with a question such as, "how do you feel about that?" In all honesty, I am thinking the odds are 50/50 that she cancels dinner anyway. Overall, it is just crazy that I feel I have to walk on eggshells as to what I can or should talk about, but I get it and accept it. I just miss her being my "baby" and us talking about anything and everything without thought.
 
I get really nervous every time I see him that he is going to cancel, or I will get emotional and drive him away, or that it will be terribly awkward and I have to say each time it has just been me over thinking things.

Things definitely do see to be progressing (touch wood!) but we def have a long way to go. We are going out for the day at the weekend and have a weekend away planned for the following weekend. Also Im in the UK and have been in touch with the British legion about my partners mental health since leaving the royal navy and they have kindly offered to pay for us to go away for a week to one of their respite hotel, which my partner has agreed to. Right now its almost like we are dating, starting from the beginning, but with no label. Its no easy I must warn you, I long for the day that he tells me he loves me again but im not sure he is ready for that just yet. But I will continue to be patient.

One thing I do though is always make sure he knows I am here, that I love him and a want it to work out between us. I think he needs to hear this. He often told me before that he didn't feel good enough, that he had abandonment issues etc, but I want him to know he is loved. x
 
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My ex and I started seeing each other again after a few months of zero communication. The first time we met face to face I was very nervous and had no idea what to expect. I decided to follow his lead since he was the one who had ended it suddenly (he is the sufferer). It went, and has been going, surprisingly well. We purposely don't talk about the break up or the cause and just keep things light and friendly. We are not in a relationship right now other than being friends. We enjoy each other's company but neither one of us is prepared for a relationship right now. In all honesty, I think the stress of being in a romantic relationship would only trigger him again anyway. When we get together, we just hang out, eat, watch movies and chill. We sit next to each other on the couch shoulder to shoulder but no hand holding, cuddling or anything along those lines. It's comfortable and stress free. We place no expectations or demands on each other and just go with the flow. If I don't hear from him for a week or two, I don't freak out. I don't sit around waiting for him and am living my life and I imagine he is doing the same. At least for me, I am just happy to have him back in my life in some form and for right now, this is good enough.

So basically what I am saying is this....try and relax, don't go into it with big expectations, and follow her lead. If you push, she will probably run. The only thing I have 'said' to my ex regarding feelings was when he sent me a text saying he did miss me during the breakup, I responded that I had missed him too. Just that...simple...no details. I don't want to overwhelm him with feelings, guilt or put him on the defensive.
 
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