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Political Venting

They employ really dumb people.
I will disagree. I don't think any of these people are dumb. Whether they make the right or wrong choices, that is another thing... but smart and dumb? Calling RFK Jnr dumb... a trial lawyer who has done more good for America than most lawyers. Not sure he is dumb.

Are you a democrat? If so, does that then make everyone who isn't, dumb? Because that is what you're kind of outlining. That is pretty dumb, IMO. These people are all highly intelligent people, on both sides of politics. Their choices? That can leave an after taste.

It seems that the Democratic thing to do, is call your opponents names and tell them they must die. Like, WTF? That is the story of the Dems across media today. Not a very telling story. Does that truly represent all Dems? I doubt that very much. It seems like the radical side has taken control right now, that's all it is. This is why many Dems voted republican this time around, because their party have lost their minds at this time. Radicals in political parties... never good. They should all be pushed out.

I would agree though, they're all puppets nowadays. Allowing corporate influence is the #1 worst thing that could ever happen to politicians, because it means they are no longer acting for the best of the country and its people, instead trying to do that, but also trying to appease profitable enterprises who got them into those positions. That all needs to stop.

IMHO, the people who should be running all countries, are those who don't want the job - not those who do want it.
 
One thing I wish would occur in all this is everyone learn cognitive distortions and cognitive dissonce.. stop the labeling. No I don't live in la la land but somehow someway despite the horrors of the current situation - both parties- we could move forward and remember there is a future. The best way to predict the future is to create it..I am struggling with this myself but trying to do my best..
 
This is why many Dems voted republican this time around
2024 was only possibly remarkable in that regard for its lack of crossover voters. Exit polls said that 4% of self-identified Democrats voted for Trump... but 5% of self-identified Republicans voted for Harris. Both numbers the lowest we've seen this century.

Both numbers were down a percentage point from the 2020 exit polls. In 2016 8% of Democrats voted for Trump and 8% of Republicans voted for Clinton.
 
Fascinating insights all.

I don't think Mr. Trump is a dummy. But as to how he got where he's at..... I.M.O...... (sorry for the long read)

Lets take any competitive sporting tournament. Or political arena. In a bracket, half the teams win, half lose and are eliminated. This continues until you have a "winner". Whether you start with 8 teams, 64, or even 340,000,000 voters - as in America. Eventually you elect a "president", i.e. winner. Our current president here in America has a particular skill set that seems to benefit him. My opinion and that of many others including his family members is that he is a consummate malignant narcissist of the worst degree. A human devoid of any sense compassion or feeling for anything except his own ego.
It was this type of malignant narcissist that I watched fire over 6,000 employees, oversee workplace fatalities, suicides, injuries, and my own PTSD for 18 years. A malignant narcissism coupled with 24/7 vigilance and acute alpha skills. If you were even the fourth cousin twice removed of someone that criticized him, you would be terminated for leaving a water bottle on a break table or parking your car on a stripe in the parking lot. It was scorched earth loyalty to him at all costs until you were of no use and you would be discarded like garbage. Surrounded by people who will laugh at his insults and degradations and sick jokes, and compliment him and soothe his ego.
As with our current U.S. president. Business skills, alpha skills, money, right place right time, all combined to propel him to be the last one in the bracket that hasn't lost. And here we are.
I feel that most of you out there, and probably 70% or so in America now, see the scope of the problem. He was not honest. He was not a good choice. Neither were the others.

He's moving faster that we can think. Everything is a constant FLASH BANG, PTSD inducing moment that wears out the senses and gives him tactical advantages. It works to his favor. Very few see how insidious this is. Or how bad it will get, or how dangerous this is. Even if he doesn't understand the dynamics of it, he knows what works for him.
We've kidnapped foreign leaders, invaded and bombed foreign countries, murdered our own citizens and branded them traitors, embargoed and are starving Cuba as a precursor to another invasion. Greenland may follow. Spain and Ireland are incurring his wrath. Shall we invade them next? A well placed bomb might convince them we mean business. And every bit of this serves to embolden him and appease his need for grandiosity and grandstanding in front of others. And that need is insatiable. That is a consummate malignant narcissist. Blame someone else. Light a fire somewhere else and off to save the world from that one. Ignite. Repeat. Ignite. Repeat.
It's hard to actually comprehend the term "malignant narcissist" or the human being because we all have sensitivities that tell us this level of sickness really can't be real and we really can't be seeing what we're actually seeing. I went through that for most of 18 years. The only one and last to survive in my work environment. I could not grasp the reality of the reality around me. Is that part of PTSD?

But it is exactly these behaviors that damaged me. And I can't help thinking that others worldwide are and will be damaged.

It has been 10 years since I left that environment. Watching another malignant narcissist take control of events that affect my life and will affect everyone is triggering and retraumatizing. If nobody reads this I'm good with that but I am so grateful for having a place to post and air my worries.

I do agree Anthony that corporate influence and campaign contributions are a great source of political corruption. They have contributed to our current problem.

I do need to redirect and find positive avenues.
 
Well yeah, but Iranian people don’t care about the oil, they care about their freedom and I care about the people.
I commend your concern. No sarcasm intended.
Do you seriously think that Mr. Trump cares 1 bit about the Iranian people?
He has singled out the two largest oil producers in the world and kidnapped their leader and bombed them.
While hundreds of millions elsewhere starve and are without power. All the while cutting programs to assist around the world.
I agree wholeheartedly we needed to police our giveaway programs, but you are buying the story line of a narcissist who will use that oil revenue to inflict more pain and suffering on the world. He could resolve Gaza in a day. He does not. In the last 30 days, 36,000 Palestinians were displaced in the West Bank for new illegal Israeli settlements. What about them? Donald says nothing to discourage that. They don't have oil.
Please find me a list of his benevolent activities before and during his presidency. He is a con man. Look at Mara Lago, his lifestyle, his palaces, and how many needy people could we help with that? And you think he genuinely has any concern for Iranian people.
Gandhi He is not.
If I am out of line, please, let me know. No harm intended.
 
I will disagree. I don't think any of these people are dumb. Whether they make the right or wrong choices, that is another thing... but smart and dumb? Calling RFK Jnr dumb... a trial lawyer who has done more good for America than most lawyers. Not sure he is dumb.

Are you a democrat? If so, does that then make everyone who isn't, dumb? Because that is what you're kind of outlining. That is pretty dumb, IMO. These people are all highly intelligent people, on both sides of politics. Their choices? That can leave an after taste.

It seems that the Democratic thing to do, is call your opponents names and tell them they must die. Like, WTF? That is the story of the Dems across media today. Not a very telling story. Does that truly represent all Dems? I doubt that very much. It seems like the radical side has taken control right now, that's all it is. This is why many Dems voted republican this time around, because their party have lost their minds at this time. Radicals in political parties... never good. They should all be pushed out.

I would agree though, they're all puppets nowadays. Allowing corporate influence is the #1 worst thing that could ever happen to politicians, because it means they are no longer acting for the best of the country and its people, instead trying to do that, but also trying to appease profitable enterprises who got them into those positions. That all needs to stop.

IMHO, the people who should be running all countries, are those who don't want the job - not those who do want it.
I'm neither a democrat or a republican and Ive seen very stupid people on both sides. At no point did I say or even gesture that ALL other people are dumb. It's just some of the people I've witnessed.
 
My point @GrayOwl wasn’t about Trump, rather that an effect of this war is that people of Iran is closer than ever before to being released from being held hostage by the Islamic Regime for 47 years. It’s difficult for Westerners to understand that aspect because most don’t even know the difference between Iran and the Islamic Republic. Which is also no one’s fault—we are not taught it in school and we are fed propaganda, so can only learn through word of mouth by Iranian people or very specific news sources.

This conflict has opened my eyes to the role of political ideology and how it becomes a blind framework for opinions.

Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran are all indirect wars with China for the oil. I understand that. Greenland is for rare earth minerals and location, also focused on China mostly. China is getting better now at doing what US (world bank/IMF) did in the last century, which is create debt trap economies so they can control minerals and/or governments. Some countries are just shifting their debts from dollars to yuan. USA not letting go of throne so easily.

I think it’s interesting and understandable that many people in Westernized countries want some version of 🔥🇺🇸. The ones at the top are prime targets in any game. I wonder about the consequences if that were followed to its full conclusion. It does seem like gangsterism is the rule of the game for many world leaders and that is depressing but again understandable from a behavioral evolution standpoint.
 
Fascinating insights all.

I don't think Mr. Trump is a dummy. But as to how he got where he's at..... I.M.O...... (sorry for the long read)

Lets take any competitive sporting tournament. Or political arena. In a bracket, half the teams win, half lose and are eliminated. This continues until you have a "winner". Whether you start with 8 teams, 64, or even 340,000,000 voters - as in America. Eventually you elect a "president", i.e. winner. Our current president here in America has a particular skill set that seems to benefit him. My opinion and that of many others including his family members is that he is a consummate malignant narcissist of the worst degree. A human devoid of any sense compassion or feeling for anything except his own ego.
It was this type of malignant narcissist that I watched fire over 6,000 employees, oversee workplace fatalities, suicides, injuries, and my own PTSD for 18 years. A malignant narcissism coupled with 24/7 vigilance and acute alpha skills. If you were even the fourth cousin twice removed of someone that criticized him, you would be terminated for leaving a water bottle on a break table or parking your car on a stripe in the parking lot. It was scorched earth loyalty to him at all costs until you were of no use and you would be discarded like garbage. Surrounded by people who will laugh at his insults and degradations and sick jokes, and compliment him and soothe his ego.
As with our current U.S. president. Business skills, alpha skills, money, right place right time, all combined to propel him to be the last one in the bracket that hasn't lost. And here we are.
I feel that most of you out there, and probably 70% or so in America now, see the scope of the problem. He was not honest. He was not a good choice. Neither were the others.

He's moving faster that we can think. Everything is a constant FLASH BANG, PTSD inducing moment that wears out the senses and gives him tactical advantages. It works to his favor. Very few see how insidious this is. Or how bad it will get, or how dangerous this is. Even if he doesn't understand the dynamics of it, he knows what works for him.
We've kidnapped foreign leaders, invaded and bombed foreign countries, murdered our own citizens and branded them traitors, embargoed and are starving Cuba as a precursor to another invasion. Greenland may follow. Spain and Ireland are incurring his wrath. Shall we invade them next? A well placed bomb might convince them we mean business. And every bit of this serves to embolden him and appease his need for grandiosity and grandstanding in front of others. And that need is insatiable. That is a consummate malignant narcissist. Blame someone else. Light a fire somewhere else and off to save the world from that one. Ignite. Repeat. Ignite. Repeat.
It's hard to actually comprehend the term "malignant narcissist" or the human being because we all have sensitivities that tell us this level of sickness really can't be real and we really can't be seeing what we're actually seeing. I went through that for most of 18 years. The only one and last to survive in my work environment. I could not grasp the reality of the reality around me. Is that part of PTSD?

But it is exactly these behaviors that damaged me. And I can't help thinking that others worldwide are and will be damaged.

It has been 10 years since I left that environment. Watching another malignant narcissist take control of events that affect my life and will affect everyone is triggering and retraumatizing. If nobody reads this I'm good with that but I am so grateful for having a place to post and air my worries.

I do agree Anthony that corporate influence and campaign contributions are a great source of political corruption. They have contributed to our current problem.

I do need to redirect and find positive avenues.
Yes . He and others in power are malignant narcissitics. Huge ego. Narcissitic traits exist on a spectrum. My trauma recovery was and always will be tied to understanding and applying the personality traits of the dark triad. It seems our society rewards violence greed no boundaries no limits addiction etc. You are great for highlighting this. I am having a whole lot of trouble forgiving people who engaged in willful ignorance black and white thinking my way or the highway. I am working on the issue of forgiveness for myself. I will not allow the people with these traits back in my life or if I have to interact there will be boundaries including NO
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He could resolve Gaza in a day. He does not. In the last 30 days, 36,000 Palestinians were displaced in the West Bank for new illegal Israeli settlements. What about them? Donald says nothing to discourage that. They don't have oil.
Joe Biden could have ended the genocide in Gaza, if he had wanted to.

Kamala Harris could have let the Palestinians on the stage at the DNC, but she denied them access, instead she chose Republicans like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.
 
Another day in America.
Today, did we:
*Bomb another country in "surprise"?
*Kidnap the leader of another foreign country?
*Have masked law enforcement gangs shoot and kill citizens and teachers in our communities and label them terrorists and refuse to investigate?
*Insult and degrade out allies and support around the world?
*Threaten economic holocaust on ourselves if we don't pass a new law allowing the president to imprison all election officials of his choice? Based on his word only? Thereby guaranteeing all future election results of his choice.
*Ignore supreme court rulings and circuit court rulings nationwide?
*Pardon criminals and forgive judgements in return for "donations" to the president? Set up and administered by the Department of Justice and her family?
*Drop bombs on a girl's school and blame their leaders?
*Corrupt and ignore the world's largest pedophile investigation?
*Manipulate world stock and energy markets for the president's profit?
*Just the short list.

When Rome fell to the Huns in 476 A.D., it is reported that as many as 90% of Romans welcomed in the invading hordes because the invaders treated them better than their own government did.

I wish my anger & trigger management tools worked better. Plain and simple - I must do better.
Suggestions accepted.
Oh well. I need to call it a day and find something to look forward to tomorrow. And there is much! Better tomorrows!
The thread is entitled "Political Venting". So I did.
Good night all.
 

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