Am I Being A Prude, Or Overly Sensitive?

[Deleted member 1860]

wow @somerandomguy you totally don't get it.

I guess because I'm female people assume I'm some ball busting feminazi. Please. Porn doesn't bother me in the least. I gave that example as an example and nothing more.

Honestly, I think prostitution should be legal. How's that for pissing off the feminazis?

 

[Anarchy]

Honestly, I think prostitution should be legal. How's that for pissing off the feminazis?

:)

It's a lot older and far more respectable a calling than politician will ever be.

No criticism of your comment @Solara, I know that this isn't what you meant at all,

but WTF should some third party's permission (legalization) be needed for consenting adults to commit capitalist acts together?

 

[scout86]

Fortunately I missed that thread,

Oh, you should have been there! :)

I will confess that a good looking guy will catch my eye and attract my attention. But, for the long haul, it seems that if the personality is right, I grow fond of the appearance, what ever it is, just because it's part of the person. That won't sell many magazines, I guess.

 

[Anarchy]

But, for the long haul, it seems that if the personality is right, I grow fond of the appearance, what ever it is, just because it's part of the person. That won't sell many magazines, I guess.

I whole heartedly agree

I think it says something about a person (and not in a good way) if you hear them bitching about taking someone home and finding that some body part or other, which isn't usually on open display, was not as their dreams said it should be...

...very shallow.

 

[Anarchy]

Oh, you should have been there! :)

I try not to get into too many scraps here

It's not that I have a weak will

when it comes to that sort of thing, I have a weak "won't"

 

[scout86]

Ah yes, the whole "knowing when to quit" thing! :bag:

 

[RussH]

The reason this bothers me so much is I know what happens when a person is objectified. Yes I know this young lady is a willing participant in the photo, and yes she has been well compensated, and it is her choice.

However in the greater scheme of things the objectification of a person, or people can lead to horrible consequences. It the current thread there has been talk about the porn industry; so how many of the girls you see in porn movies are actually sex slaves who have been sold into the sex industry?

How many Africans were taken captive and sold into slavery because we refused to see them as humans, and thought of them as nothing more than animals?
In Nazi Germany the Jewish people were considered vermin, and therefore it was acceptable to exterminate them.

Yes I know a single picture of a young lady barely covered by a bathing suit is a far cry from being a sex slave, or a labor slave, and it is a far cry from the death camps of Germany, but in each of these scenarios it begins with a simple act of dehumanizing someone. When we determine that a person is not a person, but an object that we can use as we see fit, we have started down the road to abuse.

Again perhaps I am too sensitive, but having been dehumanized, and made an object of disdain,then almost destroyed as a person, I understand where this road leads, and it saddens me to see others treated as less than human.

 

[Dana1010]

I didn't read all the replies here, so I hope I'm not repeating anything already said.

Sports Illustrated is in a race to the bottom with their Swimsuit Issue these last few years. I remember when I was a kid, I would find them lying around the house and leaf through them, and they were way less risque than they are now. I looked at the current issue at a newsstand, and my fist thought was, "Where have the swimsuits gone?" It's clear that they are trying to compete with a certain genre of entertainment that they will never catch up to, and I wonder why they're fooling themselves. Why not just do what they do best, and let the the smut peddlers do what they do?

I definitely don't think pictures can turn anyone into sex abusers. There would be misogynists, rapists, and weirdos anyway. Just look at the Musilm world; go try and find dirty pictures there.

Pulling away from libertinism, someone up there said that people in porn are in it for the money. Uh, what money? They've managed to low-ball them down to $800 to $1,200 a film. If that's such good money, why aren't you doing it? Those people are damaged, many of them are supporting coke habits, and the slimy producers are laughing all the way to the bank. People who think that kind of work could be positive are unicorn believers.

One more note on Sports Illustrated--another thought that occurred to me while viewing those pictures was, "These girls are skating on thin ice." In other words, they're showing so much skin, so indiscriminately, that men might see that and think, "This girl is public property," and rule them out as serious relationship material. The worst thing about men who consume sex work/porn/whatever isn't that they turn into rapists; they don't. It's that at the end of the day, they will see those women as damaged goods and will refuse them the same level of respect they give to women who toe the line. And I've found this to be true of all of them, even the supposedly liberal, progressive, pro sex, gobbledygook BS artist.

 

[Ed Norton]

Not to minimize or invalidate your feelings @RussH, I believe that sex trafficking would exists tomorrow and forever regardless whether or not pornographic images are there. I can see why you have your opinion based on your experience but I don't really see a dangerous slippery slope. There have existed these things since the dawn of time.

I don't want to call what you are saying catastophizing, because there is some elements of truth to what you say but there's burlesque, strip clubs, porn etc. they all are forms of objectification. But even without those, abuses would still exist. Yes some people, both men and women are forced into the life, but I believe that because it's more open, the chance of someone being forced into the sex industry is minimal.

I think that the only thing that you can do is to not partake in something that you find morally reprehensible.

Yes, dehumanization and objectification have led to horrors in the past but sex is the oldest profession and the horrors therein have always existed, there is no great slippery slope.

 

[Ed Norton]

@Dana1010 The majority of the people who I've seen in porn look very satisfied with the job, so to speak. I wouldn't enjoy it otherwise.

I know looks can be deceiving but I don't see miserable looking women.
perhaps it's an extreme case of "riddere il pagliaccio" but I'm usually good at detecting that.

 

[Dana1010]

@Ed Norton,

1. They are called actresses.
2. Have you done cocaine?

This attitude that they enjoy being what they are is actually dehumanizing. "Yes, they're sociologically damned, and will never get a job outside porn, and no man will have them. But that's okay, because they're Sex Workers. It's not like they're normal human beings like you and me who actually want respect from society and love from a partner--those are people things. These are just....Sex Workers."

 

[Ed Norton]

I've only tried cocaine once, didn't like it, actually made me feel tired! besides I was a pilot.

I generally can tell if it's fake, they are not good actresses, also in many pornos I've seen the female definitely has an orgasm, unmistakably!

I think that it may perhaps be a stereotype that most are on coke, I don't know...I've seen one scene where the actor was definitely on coke, no question. But even so it's their body. Would I do porn myself? Yes, but it would damage my chances of a future career. Not because I'd be damaged goods, but it is looked down upon in what I want to do. I'd love to try 800-1200 is much more than a make now!