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They won't numb your ability to be vigilant. They can calm you down enough to make appropriate decisions, or not either. They don't change us, just make life more bearable.

But it's not 100% guaranteed it will work, most people need a few tries with meds before finding the right ones, or the right dose.
 
Meds wouldn't tell you you're safe. Would just be a relief from the severity of symptoms.

This. So much this.

I don't want meds that are going to tell me I'm safe. I'm not safe. I just need to be able to function while knowing I'm unsafe. lol.
I'm really sorry for whatever happened to you. :( I'm glad you have such a good doc!

Likewise for what happened to you. Nobody deserves to have trauma. Okay, maybe the people who contributed to me having PTSD, and anyone like them.

She is a great pdoc. She works with me on meds, she likes that I'm really cautious about taking anything, that I always research meds myself before ever taking them, that I play a really active role in my own care, as far as the meds are concerned. She's been very helpful in helping me figure out which meds are a good fit for me, and suggesting ones that I'd probably be more okay with taking.

I take multiple medications to help me with anxiety, depersonalization, derealization, dissociation in general, sleep, ugh just so many f*cking medications. But, they help - and they still aren't enough to make me feel safe out at night. I felt pretty f*cking unsafe out tonight and it was only 10pm! They don't make me feel safe in the day either. Or like, ever. I don't think there is a drug for making you feel safe, when you have PTSD. Maybe I'm wrong. But so far nothing I've tried has made me immune from feeling unsafe.

What they do though, is help me handle those unsafe feeling situations - whether or not they are situations where I should be feeling unsafe. The middle of a grocery store, at noon, on a Sunday? Full of people, but I -should- feel safe. They all feel safe, and the odds of being attacked with so many damn witnesses and people to help you or call for help etc., in a place with f*ckin' cameras and security with a gun, and additional security, and blah blah blah - I should feel safe there and then, but I don't. I feel super unsafe around people, but like, hyper-unsafe around night people, like the people you'd see in a gas station at 1:30 AM. (guess why my pdoc was telling me to not go out at night)

The meds help me handle it and not freak out outwardly. Propranolol is a beta blocker, kinda takes away a lot of the physical symptoms of anxiety and panic. So I can be in the midst of a panic attack where I feel like I'm gonna die or go insane or some shit, heavy 10/10 panic attack, and only have 90's bpm heart rate, instead of 170 bpm. It keeps my hands from shaking too bad, unless I am heavily hit with anxiety or panic, but out doing shit, or being startled, doesn't make my hands shake on propranolol. They just shake a whole lot less. There's less of the anxiety chest pain and the adrenaline feeling isn't as strong. It's a great med for helping you stay -functional- while being anxious or hypervigilant or panicky or what not.

I also use diazepam, 2-6mg, depending on what's making me need it. I can still feel panicky on that. I've been on 1mg xanax prior to a genital exam. It did NOT prevent me from feeling anxious, or like something horrible was gonna happen, or like wanting to throw up in the trash can in the waiting room, it just toned it down to a point where I -could- even do the f*ckin' exam, and dissociation came in and saved the day during the exam. Xanax really helped in that it made my memory of the whole thing feel very fuzzy, so I reacted less to it than I did to a subsequent, simpler exam, where I only used 2mg diazepam and 10mg propranolol, because I figured I could handle it. NOPE. The propranolol helped. The diazepam was fully overridden at least as far as I could tell, during the exam. I also felt horrible after and was curled in a ball groaning and crying, feeling disgusting and just... yeah it was horrible.

Anyway, even benzos, in doses much stronger than what I'm used to, don't make things stop feeling unsafe for me. It just turns down the knob - though the effects like sluggishness, clumsiness, feeling sedated and foggy, being basically intoxicated - that makes it more unsafe to be outside. But in very small amounts, like 2mg diazepam, you can go outside and not be impaired to the point you can't function properly, but have a small tiny bit of help with your anxiety and panic while outside.

I'm on naltrexone for depersonalizaton, derealization, dissociative shit. The D's. Lol. It's an opioid receptor antagonist - basically makes it so opioids, from either external (opiates) or internal (endorphins and such) sources. It works wonders. Seriously, miracle drug for me - but it's also scary as f*ck because with a much higher bar for dissociative events to happen, I have to actually deal with my anxiety and panic and memories and hypervigilance and everything without dissociation to rescue me from it. Even then, sometimes my body's chemicals seem to get high enough to override the naltrexone. When I was in the gas station at 1:30 AM I began to feel extremely anxious, and then heavy depersonalization hit, like, I-have-no-control-over-my-body type of depersonalization, where my body is doing things and I feel like I have no control over it and am just spectating, not experiencing it myself. Hard to describe. The drug comes with some minor side effects, and if I ever get hurt badly I'm gonna have to deal with it without opiates because they won't work, and it's risky to override the blockade of opioid receptors. All the other negative side effects have been getting better with time. One downside/upside: it takes all the fun out of alcohol.

Anyway. Huge post but - consider taking meds for your problems. You can take ones that help you handle feeling unsafe, without taking away the fact you feel unsafe.
 
Xanax really helped in that it made my memory of the whole thing feel very fuzzy.
Interestingly, although I avoid the 'annual' exams and basically anything that involves lying on a table like the plague, on those occasions when I have had to actually have it happen I can't even remember how bad it was. I have very clear memories of being comforted by the receptionist afterwards, but very little memory of the actual event itself. I remember remembering, but don't actually remember - if that makes sense. It's like hearing something someone told me - or recalling a dream. I remember events as though they were described to me by someone else, almost - not like they happened to me. Same applies to all kinds of traumatic stuff I have experienced. It's like the memory is there, but it's not really mine. I know it's bad and ugly and gross - but it wasn't really me so I can look at it without it really bothering me. Sounds weird but I don't know how else to describe it.

Thanks for all the input in general, I'm willing to take/try whatever meds will help. I get the hands shaking thing too, also weak in the knees, feeling like I'm going to pass out or throw up even though I'm doing very careful breathing to avoid hyperventilating - and just huge rushes of panic prickles, feeling like I'm choking, etc. I can't live like this forever and since I am apparently unable to will it away, I'm ready to try meds, haha. Hopefully I can get some relief.
 
I am just wondering, and please ignore if this is an offensive question. Please keep in mind I have these issues too and have for a very long time.

Question is though:
When he finds you - does he do anything? Or is his finding you enough to send you blindly (again, no offense, this is what happens to me) running away so he can't find you anymore?

Just wondering..... no problem if you don't want to answer.
 
When he finds you - does he do anything? Or is his finding you enough to send you blindly (again, no offense, this is what happens to me) running away so he can't find you anymore?
No offense taken. The stalking started with him doing something. Many somethings over a period of months while he always stayed a step ahead of the police. Ever since, his finding me is enough to send me blindly running away, but he hasn't done anything since that first period of time.
 
I think maybe you believe you’re staying under the radar by using a different name, but it’s amazing how someone can be found with very little info. No, I’m not trying to scare you, rather I think you could be taking better precautionary steps to avoid being found, and thus get out of this cycle, finally feeling safe again. I say all of this out of experience. I’ve seen how easy it is to find someone with very little to go by and nothing more than the internet. Most people unknowingly leave “footprints” behind. If he’s finding you, you’re not totally hidden.
 
Yes, that's because as soon as I'm 'safe' I forget and live my life like normal. It's not even complacency - it's total 100% - What? I'm perfectly safe, perfectly fine, there's nothing wrong!
So I'm either acting like he doesn't exist or running blindly away. During that one period while I was using a different name, I was constantly stressed because I had to REMEMBER all the time. All the time. Because my life was different. All the things I was doing were different, and that made me remember. I couldn't hack it for very long. Moved back to my home area, started going by my real name again, and forgot. And felt better. Until he found me again. It's a stupid cycle - but it's like I'm not capable of remembering unless it's shoved right up in my face, like it is right now. If I weren't shackled by property ownership, I'd be living in a new condo somewhere, happy as a clam, having completely forgotten why I had even moved at all.
My brain says, 'IGNORANCE IS BLISS!!!!'
 
I was constantly stressed because I had to REMEMBER all the time. All the time.
Okay, so I am going to go out on a limb here. I may be totally off - so keep that in mind.

That whole 'I don't remember that I am a victim of stalking until he finds me again' thing is what I call compartmentalization.

Compartmentalization to me is two different 'programs' in my head that don't really function together well. Or even know about each other.

So for me, the ideal state is to be aware that there has been this danger and using my adult self program (functioning, doesn't run) to incorporate that knowledge into my functioning self and work on using the skills my adult self has to work out an alternative plan to running.

I think that for me, is ideal. I don't want my body going off half cocked all the time without being able to work through how to keep myself safe and thus, stabilize and free up my life.

Have I been successful? Yes, in many ways. I still have a ways to go. But my life is much, much better than it was even a year ago. I am working towards complete freedom. That is my directive. No idea if that is what you are looking for....

Not a bad question actually. What do you want? Do you want to progress with this psychologically or do you simply want coping tools so that you can keep hidden?

Can't recall if you have a therapist at all.
 
I'm waiting for an appt.

I go back and forth. Sometimes I just want to gear those coping mechanisms back up so I can go back to thinking I'm OK. I have responsibilities, I don't have time or resources set aside to deal with a broken mind.
I also want to fix it, better sooner than later, because I don't want this to go on for the rest of forever.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this - Compartmentalization fits very well. Except my 'remember' side knows the 'forget' side exists and doesn't want it to keep happening. The 'forget' side thinks everything's fine and I'm just exaggerating and being dramatic and stupid.

Right now, I just want it to all go away so I can stop worrying about it. 'Forget' side is winning, lol.
 
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