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Cannot Talk About My Trauma In Therapy

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I can relate to the difficulty saying it and think all the above advice is great, I can also relate to crying about adverts, seeing people acting like they're a happy family really upsets me and anything to do with babies makes me sick. I hope you can heal fully at the pace that's right for you

I find some things irl are triggers, or some times they go deeper. For example, in looking for some 'hopefulness' I read what contained the line "After all, everyone has a family", & then reference to sit- down dinners. All I could think was, a) trigger b) could anyone be that out of touch? c) I feel badly for judging re: 'b)' d) I feel more like a freak & I sure don't belong there. Mostly I felt like e) Drained. Deflated of hope or thoughts.

I needed to also learn how to escape conversations that were triggering or invalidating or frightening for me.

This type of action makes a lot of sense to me. There is avoidance, but then there is the good avoidance of that which simply makes us feel badly.

Best wishes @Brokensoul88.
 
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rachelluvsdemi, yes she specialises in r***/SA trauma. She is very different to how anyone else I have seen for various things in my life reacts to what I say. She will clarify the way I'm feeling negatively with a question & when I respond she wil say "oh [my name] I'm so sorry you are feeling like that" I'm used to me saying how I feel and the response being very formal. It's strange at first but comforting in a motherly way.

Chava, I have real problems giving any eyes contact I look to the ground to her side all the time & very occasionally meet her eyes because I don't want her to think I am being rude. That is ingrained in me that eye contact is important so when I can't bear to meet her gaze for more than a second it's hard. I start thinking I must make eye contact & then I've missed what she has said during my continuous inner monologue.

I probably could say I can't talk about that probably but then I'd feel like I just chickened out of an attempt to give a meaningful answer. My attempts however then prompt my brain to try and find a response but I can't make a coherent sentence.
 
Couldn't write about this earlier because I couldn't get my head around it. Been a long time since I have disociated from shock but this morning I drove over to my new house, it was still dark out, I had shut & locked every door before I left the night before. Went through lounge & opened kitchen door & there was a black cat on the worktop giving me the same petrified reaction I gave him. That shock of finding a being in the house that wasn't there when I left basically turned me into a mess in seconds. I let the cat out the back & re-locked the door and I was falling like I was on the Oblivion ride at Alton Towers, next thing I know I'm on the floor clutching myself & back in the room unable to catch my breath staring at the lounge door waiting. My head went into overdrive, how did it get in? if it got in could a person? is there someone else here? Took me half an hour to get a grip & go check the rooms. I still can't work out how it got in and I'm thinking how am I going to go over there tomorrow if I could find the same thing or worse. Driving home I was thinking maybe I'm going crazy, maybe there was no cat and u hallucinated it! We aren't even that far into therapy and surely I haven't said enough to prompt that reaction, where did it come from?
 
Unless you are experiencing hallucinations elsewhere in your life, you are likely not hallucinating the cat.

And even if you are, you are still not likely to be crazy. Just stressed out and in serious needs of skills and support on how to handle your anxiety.

My cat, oh my goodness, she has a knack for sneaking in and out of all kinds of spaces - ones that humans can not get into. I have robust security at my place, and she has managed to sneak past even the system the professional security experts set up. Cats are sneaky little critters that can fit in places no humans can. One time I could not find her, FOR THREE DAYS. My friend, my mother, and I turned my place inside out. We turned over the couch. Upside down. We emptied the cabinets. We dumped out everything and checked every door and thought surely she had snuck out.

It turned out she was hiding behind the fridge...

Just because a cat sneaks in doesn't mean your place is not reasonably secure and safe.

It makes a lot of sense though that you were clearly really triggered and spooked. I probably would be too. But, I wouldn't toss away all hope of your new place being safe just yet.

As for therapy, instead of pressuring yourself so much to talk about trauma in coherent sentences, I would suggest focusing on building up that relationship with the therapist where you can talk about mundane subjects and make eye contact. Or maybe even talk to her about the security concern, and how badly you were triggered, and stay present with her in the room as possible. ****This is part of recovering from PTSD.****

You need skills and trust in place to handle being triggered before you open up talking about trauma or it's only going to further destabilize you, something you are concerned about.

If you can't take the pressure off yourself about needing to talk about the rape, or you generally really do need to tell her about it, what about writing it down, in a few short words? Even put on a piece of paper "I was r*ped and I'm terrified to talk about it." (I say to keep it short as to try to avoid overthinking it, for your sake, so that you don't trigger yourself even more. Not because your therapist needs it to be simple.)

I actually put down exactly that on a piece of paper in a therapy session. In the middle of the session, I was so frustrated with not being able to tell her what happened, I pulled out pen and paper) and handed it to my therapist....

I dissociated. It was too soon. My therapist spent the rest of the session helping me ground, and reassuring me. It did help, but I'm not sure I would recommend pushing yourself so far. You seem determined and quite focused on getting the words out, despite really good advice that it's likely way too soon to tell her.

If you really do need to tell her, please know that it doesn't even have to be "coherent." Therapists are trained in helping put together all the pieces and trauma is inherently stored in our brains in a non-verbal way. It makes sense it's hard to put into words that make sense. It's also likely that you make a lot more sense than you think. I tend to think that about 50% of what I say in therapy makes no sense at all, and I often ask, "does this make sense?" 99% of the time, my therapist reflects back to me a really good understanding. Its not because I'm eloquent in therapy. It's because she understands trauma.

It seems like you have a therapist that at least understand something about how to handle trauma victims, and that their sense of being heard is really important. I can tell that you really want to be able to tell her and face this.

Avoiding eye contact in therapy is ok. Many many clients stare at their therapist's shoes. My therapist says she tried to have an interesting rug and shoes because so many trauma victims stare at it, rather than her. She told me this to trey and reassure me it was ok to struggle to make eye contact - she expects it. Your therapist is likely not hurt at all by your struggle to make eye contact. It's really really common for people to struggle with eye contact in therapy, even when not talking about the worst things that have happened to us. Therapy is a very intimate space. It's ok to look away if it helps you get through. You will be able to increase eye contact over time.

Take it slow. Ground. And then do more grounding. One of my favorite ways to ground when in a state of panic is to hold ice. I know, it sounds strange, but it gently shocks the body out of the panic.

I hope things are getting a little easier for you this day/night. :hug:
 
You should never feel pressured to talk about anything in therapy. I can tell you a little bit about my experience. I have been in therapy for almost 3 years now. I still have not talked about my trauma face to face. It was just recently I wrote down on paper what happened, and I gave that to my therapist. Everyone is different, and will go about telling their story in their own way when they are ready. If you are feeling pressured maybe this isn't the therapist for you. It took me awhile to find one who I was comfortable with. I had to be comfortable with the moments of silence. Even now that my therapist knows what I went through, we still don't talk about it in session as I am not ready. She understands that, and has never pressured me.
 
Breaching the trauma in therapy before adequate grounding skills have been acquired and practiced can actually counter-productive.

Establishment of safety is job one. If our actual life outside of the therapy room is not safe, or lack supportive people and resources, opening up trauma can actually be dangerous.

THIS. My last run through therapy had me talking about my trauma in detail at 4 weeks. It made me start self-injuring again after twelve years of not hurting myself. Months later, I'm still feeling the effects of moving too fast, with the vagueness of suicidal feelings and the panic of feeling too much, which spirals me into dissociation. In fact, the dissociation I'm feeling now is the worst its ever been.

So, grounding, trust, emotional regulation before talking about the trauma. Trust me.
 
Thank you guys, therapy was difficult today, had a bad day at work after time off to move house. My computer which is situated in a corner where nobody can walk up behind me or hang around by me was broken. It did that before I went on leave & for 2 days I was a nervous & very unhappy wreck sitting where people were tooing & froing behind me. So when I saw it broke again & the first email I read was a shit one I just burst into floods of tears. Been a very long day finishing in therapy after work. I went with the things I had written down but in the end the conversation in the main flowed because she filled the silences more. She made some observations about how I almost stop breathing when I come to any subject with difficult emotional ties and purse my lips like I am trying to hold in the things I need to talk about. She also said about how I look at the floor & avoid eye contact which made me smile considering it has been mentioned in this feed. I am feeling low and I did admit to being worried about letting things out because I am afraid of the reaction I may have afterwards, she said she is prepared for any reaction I may have which I think reassured me a bit but I'm not sure. She mentioned mindfulness. What are people's experiences of this?
 
talk about what you want when you want remember you are in control. You need to be stable first then access trauma. I could not talk about it at all to start because the brocas area of your brain shuts down. Take it steady you can regress if over traumatised in therapy. It can cause re traumatisation if it is rushed too much, and believe me I know about that.
 
Mindfulness is very worthwhile. It is being incorporated into more and more therapies. In clinical trials it has proven at least as effective in treating depression and chronic pain, as medications.

Have a look on YouTube for the mindful way through depression, full audio book. Ignore the word depression, its use is far more general than just depression. Teasdale, one of the co authors is one of the top researchers on the cognitive basis of depression.

It keeps changing address as YouTube take it down, and someone else puts it up again, so download the file to your machine/ phone/ pod...

While you are busy, see if you can get the guided meditations that go with it too.

Listen to it in easy batches, say ten or 20 minutes a day.

There's a mindfulness challenge just starting, if you would like to join in. I think MS Spock was the op in a thread about it.
 
Hi broken soul,
Sorry that you are experiencing such pain.

I remember you posting when I first joined h...
Oh, Anarchy! Thank you so much for what you just said! I was diagnosed with Epilepsy when I was a child. As I grew up, these "seizures" I had were thought to be petite mal seizures. I would feel them coming and then I would point to my head because I knew that I would loose my speech first. Then I could just signal my friends that I could not speak. It was not till over 30 years later did we find out, thru medical testing, that they were memories coming thru from my childhood. I was finally diagnosed with PTSD--and taken off all but one of my meds. Meds that I had been on for decades.
Thank you so much for that info. I will definetly go do some more research on this.
 
So I have been trying out mindfulness, hmm I'm not convinced. I know of course that these things take practice, but emptying my mind? Hah!! I did however find some useful podcasts where a calm voice gives affirmations and said relaxing things, that suited me better because the long silences in mindfulness are not something I was comfortable with. I guess I prefer to hear a reassuring voice instead to help me keep focus & keep the bad feelings in the silence under control. I have found my mood has been better this week but at times I feel almost...manic. For instance, today in the kitchen at work I was pacing whilst my food cooked in the microwave. I'm the sort of person who has to keep busy distract from the memories but usually in that situation I would stand still & try not to feel panicked that I can't see around the kitchen corner. I suppose I still felt panic but had to keep moving. I'm a little worried that it's a sign I'm about to start losing the plot again because of trying to open the box in therapy. I told my therapist on Tuesday that since going back to work 14 months ago I have put on 6 stone. She sat there in disbelief and then corrected herself & apologized. For her it was the realization of just how much I am struggling, she said that now she realizes how much pain I am in and what it is doing to me trying to hold it together. It is my coping mechanism and whilst it is not healthy and is putting me in danger for serious health issues my alternative coping method was cutting my stomach with a scalpel and hitting myself with a barbell so what is better?
 
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