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FauxLiz

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Okay, I am in the US and today I received a letter from my insurance company informing me that they have assigned a Nurse Case Manager to me to deal with my "illness". I don't know what to think. Two of the reasons that they state this is done is for "multiple traumas" or neurological conditions. I have been with this company on this policy for several years, I have been being treated for a "neurological conditions" (chronic migraines) and depression for years but until I prepared for inpatient my t and Pdoc only used chronic depression as a billing code (I know I check every benefit statement)

My question is has anyone else here been assigned a case manager? What would be pros and cons of taking advantage of this? The letter tried to list all the positives including the possibility of benefits beyond what my plan permits but also throws in the statement that if I decline to participate there are negative consequences to approval of my current benefits.

Anyone??
 
I don't know how it works in the US, but worker's comp here in Canada (WSIB) has just approved me for long-term case management, and I have a Case manager specifically for my PSTD and therapy stuff. In my situation I feel they are completely irrelevant aside from being another barrier that WSIB has in me receiving needed benefits so I can keep getting treated. It should be sufficient enough for my therapist to tell them that I need more treatment. Long story short, it's moreso a technicality on there end. They believe the nurse case manger is a 'trained expert' on the psychological stuff. After my therapist spoke with WSIB's psych team, she was appalled at how uneducated they are regarding PTSD. From my knowledge of all this, it looks like you are being compliant with support they are offering if you accept. Insurance is all about saving money so the more they see you 'trying' to get better, the more they go along with it.
 
I'm not sure if it's the same but my mom has case managers and a team she works with for her heart issues. According to her insurance (Kaiser) this is a way to keep track of all her providers and help her understand what is going on. Kind of one stop shopping.. Maybe the same thing?
 
Insurance Case Managers can either

- make things infinitely easier (OMG Jump on it!) as they effectively cut through all the red tape & ou don’t have to go through multiple approval/denial/appeal shenanigans. Once you’re approved? You’re approved. I’ve spent literal years fighting for payment or preapproval of services, that a case manager has stepped in and not only across the board approved all of them, but upped my coverage in some things (as it fell under some obscure clause), in the space of 30 minutes. And then made the next year and a half of rehab (accident with complicated medical care to follow) a BREEZE as far as payment went.

- make things infinitely harder (OMG don’t agree!) as they represent the insurance company, not you, and if they disagree with any of your care can flat out deny you benefits to things that’s would have gone wholly unchallenged without them, or insist on alternate treatment (like because my son is a teenager, the case management people through the insurance didn’t want him seen by the specialist at the expensive children’s hospital, but any old doctor should do at the dirt cheap state hospital. Fortunately my son’s case manager through the Children’s hospital eviserated them :D Up to and including having Legal threaten major lawsuits, serious bad publicity, and all sorts of other fun and excitement. Billion dollar attorneys? Meet billion dollar attorneys! = Insurance case manager sent a very carefully worded letter that she’d personally made a mistake, that it wasn’t company policy to discontinue payment, blah blah blah :rolleyes: But that was very clearly only the result of having a really badass case manager through the hospital, with a rockstar legal department.).

So I’ve personally seen this go both ways, and very much depends on the personality you get as your insurance case manager. You get someone who understands what you’re doing & why & agrees? Easy street. You get someone who thinks you’re just malingering, choosing fancy pants options, and that there’s no difference between top flight care and bottom of the barrel garbage? You’re screwed, unless you’ve got someone to go to bat for you.

Don’t you just love 6 of 1, half a dozen of another, answers? :wtf:

My advice would be this : Unless they’ve put a clock on it (respond by such and such date), I would hold off on agreeing with the intent TO agree (probably)... But first to

- run it by the hospital you’re going to (if they have any experience dealing with XYZ insurance company case managers, as XYZ wants you to agree to one, and you don’t know if that’s a good idea)
- run it by med pros in your life (therapist, Pdoc, etc.)
- call and speak with the case management person directly to get a feel for them & how they think of your case (and if they go through everything & are awesome? Make sure to get their name, and write that you spoke to Susie Derkins with CM & would be thrilled to take her on as your case manager... because that means that either your case goes to their desk, or if it goes to someone else’s you haven’t legally agreed to CM by them & have a bit of legal wiggle room).
 
@Stephernovas my claims are not worker comp related but my insurance is a group policy through my employer.

@Friday I am worried that they will begin challenging procedures/treatments for my chronic migraine condition, mess with my therapy and pdoc and try to force treatments/medications on me that have been tried and discarded in the past or that my care team and I have ruled out as not a good fit for me. Unfortunately, this insurance company only has 3 out 40+ years worth of my medical history so they don't know the majority of my history. I like your idea of sort of interviewing by calling to ask questions I am going to do that on Monday. I am definitely going to run this situation by my care team next week as I have appts with all of them.

If they really can help by getting access to benefits beyond my normal policy I can think of a couple of things that I could suggest that I have wondered if would help with both of my conditions. I guess I just need to know why the case manager was assigned to know whether I want to participate in this "voluntary" program.
 
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