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Cinema - Frightened When Attending

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DO NOT AVOID TRIGGERS, just because they make you ill. Triggers make you ill, that is the idea, but the greater idea is that exposure to triggers helps you retrain your brain to accept that these things are not actually bad for you in any physical sense, ie. they present no danger to your life, so they cannot be as bad as what your mind makes them out. The fact with people when they have violent response to a trigger, is more often they are attempting to expose themselves to early, instead of healing a significant portion of trauma first, then using exposures to known triggers in order to retrain the brain. That is where the confusion often lay, not within the trigger itself. Very few triggers will ever not be able to be gotten past, very few. Exposure helps, but it must be at the right time, not the wrong time.
 
Anthony, exposure therapy works becasue its controlled, gradual exposure to the trigger though. How can I do that in the cinema when I have no control over either content (if I dont know the film) or sound/sound volume? Start at home watching more scary stuff and work up to the cinema? Part of the fun in going to the cinema is the excitement, suspense etc. but thats too much for me most of the time. How can I have just a little bit of that to start with? Or leave and go back to my seat during the film? any ideas?

Claire
 
Claire, for me this is what I did at my worst. I went to G rated films for kids, no PGs or PG 13s when I HAD to go, when the teen went I never went with him (movies were a reward for good grades). Oh, the suspense is just as great when you are sensitive. I would panic over any form of suspense. I rarely to never watch news. I have very little/no knowledge of current politics, I cannot listen to news or talk radio... I am working my way back to it. I listen to music now on the radio and it was hard to get used to as I always had to stay on top of current politics. Now watching flight 93 when I did was bad bad bad. I get that one.

But point is you have to deal with the trauma and emotions behind it to an extent before even looking at a trigger or you set yourself up to fail. You can get a lot of that done here. Exposure works controlled but only once you deal with the trauma and emotions behind it. You can pull at a weed every day but if you don't get that root up it will keep coming back.
 
Have breaks claire. Yes, trying to emulate the same thing at home won't work, because your mind knows your at home, thus the effect will not be the same. You can work on parts of things uniquely, ie:

# Exposure to crowds so a packed cinema does not bother you.
# Exposure to loud noise in public spaces (work sites, public speakes, concerts, etc)

Build parts uniquely, then go back to the cinema. Yes, if scary things effect you, then whilst watching some things at home may help, scary is scary, and not all people are able to watch grewsome horror films and the like. Exposure is the key though, even if you went to the cinema and watched 15 minutes, walked outside and missed the next 15 minutes, then back in, and repeat the process, slowly increasing time in opposed to time out of the cinema. Get creative, get inventive, find what works best for you Claire without avoiding doing something that you know you love, but are only affected because of anxiety.
 
I've only been out to see live music a couple of times since my accident. It was too loud and I stood it but sort of switched off. Then when I got home I was bad. It took days to slow down after. Is this dissociation? So I need to stay for as much as I can stand but not go over that? I last got really bad in the cinema was when I went to see King Kong. I had to leave. I stood it for about an hour but paid for it in nightmares and bad days after.
 
Yes... to a point. You must force yourself to stay that little bit longer than when you reach your comfort level, because that way you have pushed yourself beyond your comfort level, thus your comfort level now shifts further out, so next time you will be able to feel comfortable for that extra five or ten minutes, then you would remain another five or ten minutes beyond the new comfort level... so each time you are creating a new boundary, until one no longer exists.

Yes, you will pay a consequence for exposure, but that is the idea, so the brain learns that the consequence is no longer appropriate, because you must be reaffirming to yourself, nothing bad happened from it. You didn't die, you didn't get harmed, nothing bad is going to happen just because you leave your home and attend something with people. People are not bad, and this is what you must learn.

Yes, you may go out one day and find one of those really bad individuals, or a small group of them, and they may do something bad that could affect you, but the chances are extremely slight compared to life itself. Life is a waist if you lock yourself up and don't expose yourself too it on the 0.00001% chance that something bad happens and directly affects you.
 
the trouble is you dont know whats coming in a film you haven't seen do you? If theres a car crash or something its usually sudden. At home I hit the mute button as soon as cars come on in a film/programme. That way I dont get any of the sound of the engine, tyres screeching or whatever. I know you're going to say thats a bad idea but at least I can watch it like that. The unpredicatable nature of films, the surprise etc is supposed to make them fun isn't it? Do you reckon I have to start off with live music, public speeches etc first? I'm better with crowds now and always book a seat in the cinema at the end of an row. I want to go to the new Bond film but I know its full of violence and explosions etc. I think its a 15. Do you think something less intense to start with? I need an arrangement with the cinema to allow me to leave and come back into the same film until I'm better at it. It could be expensive otherwise, I might only last 30mins or less! I just dont know. Trying to think about other ways of tackling it but not being very creative yet.

Yes, nothing bad happens. I am always telling myself I AM SAFE. Its ok, no-ones going to hurt me.
 
Exposure therapy is the opposite of what your presuming here Claire. Exposure therapy IS NOT about being in control, its about learning you are not in control and CANNOT be in control of everything within life. PTSD wants control of everything, human nature is to control as much as possible, yet without PTSD we accept we cannot control everything... with PTSD we want to control everything, which is the wrong mental perception of life. Exposure therapy is about finding you cannot control everything, hence exposure to the world in doses. Pausing your TV every time a car comes on screen is not doing you any favours, because your not exposing yourself to watching TV, your denying yourself watching TV.

It is TV, not your life as such. You must teach the brain, the content on the TV related to cars and screeching brakes, etc, CANNOT hurt me anymore, because its on TV, not me in a the car screeching along. That is the idea of exposure therapy Claire, not what your thinking it is. Exposure therapy is not to protect you from your fears, its about exposing you to your fears, to life, learning new boundaries, learning that you are not in control of everything, and most often, these things cannot hurt you.
 
But is it not controlled exposure to start with? Like you told me with the roads otherwise I could try and cross a motorway first couldn't I? I'm confused now.:dontknow: So with exposure therapy you only limit your time with the problem? Not the content? So I shouldn't be seeking a tame film eg. Bambi to watch, it could be Too Fast Too Furious, but I need to limit the time in front of it? Is this right? I dont understand.

I know what I do with the TV is wrong but its better that way. I will stop doing it. I just hate the sound of screeching. It gets me more when I'm relaxing.
 
Now your getting the idea Claire. Yes, now your on the right track. Exposure is about building up, not avoiding and not being in control. Yes, you can control your exposure is what I refer to, ie. you MUST expose yourself beyond your comfort levels, NOT within or to your comfort level.

Often when trauma is involved, the problem is quite amplified, ie. with yourself you may not currently be able to cross a road at all unless with another person! Then again, you might, but you get panicked about it. If you can do it, then go and do it over and over again, until you get so drained that your brain just doesn't care anymore about crossing the road. If you can't cross the road by yourself, then what I have said previously would apply, ie. you build yourself up, you find things to focus upon, etc... a staged buildup. If a person had an extreme fear of crossing the road and were incapable of crossing a road by themselves, and dissociated even with another person holding them for support, then going out and crossing the road constantly would most likely make them collapse or have a serious breakdown. If a person could cross the road, but just gets symptom outbursts a couple days later, but can cross the road by themselves without too much issue, then you would send them out to just continually cross a road, time after time, until such time as they did get close to physically ill, but by the end of it their brain would have learnt that it no longer needs to fear crossing the road. Yes, that person would still have serious side effects days later with symptoms, but they would dissipate soon enough and their personal boundaries of crossing the road would have been pushed far beyond what they had.

It is an individual approach, and each persons ability and symptoms are different. You must look at the severity of your inability to cope with it, and determine whether you would just go rapid at the problem and hit it constantly until you fell over with exhaustion, or whether you would need a staged approach for weeks, months even, until the time they could hit it over and over til exhaustion, just to reinforce the new boundary to their brain.

You want to expose yourself to screaching, then go buy "Tokyo Drift" from the Fast and Furious series, as that contains lots of it, and literally force yourself to watch it or listen to it even as you plod around the house, play it over and over, until your mind learns that the sound by itself is not going to hurt you. Then you might go to a race meeting, so you see real cars with real screeching... just to push your boundaries a bit further again. You would eventually build yourself up to such a point where you would get in a car and go and intentionally speed up, break hard to screech, and repeat it over and over. Staged progression generally works best.
 
Tokyo Drift? are you serious? straight for the jugular? I dont fancy that. Not one bit. Has it got meaty exhausts reeving too? I cant stand them either. If I have to tolerate them, the sounds make me really, really angry. I want to punch something/someone.
 
You asked, I provided! That type of movie is something you can progressively do to help your mind associate with noises as not being bad, all from the comfort of your home. Let it play, see how long you last. Start it again the next day, see how long you last, repeat over and over, each time seeing how far you get into the movie before turning it off. Eventually, you will make it all the way to the end of the movie, then you repeat again and again, until you make it to the end without your mind rattling you in any way.
 
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