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Civilians Don't Get It.
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superglide
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This may seam out of place. But I think the perspective should help some of you. I have my own question at the end.
In the civilian world the kind of loyalty that you refer to is rarely needed. By rushing to the hospital did you really do anything more than lift your brothers spirits? The Dr’s and ambulance drivers did what you would have done in combat. Did your friend really turn his back on you in an emergency? I have been called a freeloader because I could not leave work early and did not give up time with my son to help a bunch of retired people paint the lodge. I’ve been told that I don’t understand commitment because my job that feeds my family was more important to me than a club meeting. The priorities are different in civilian life. A man who is late for a business meeting might never have chosen to been late when in the military.
Those of you who's honor and loyalty was tested when you were in the shit have earned a claim to greater self respect and a higher sense of honor than the rest of us.
I served in a peacetime Navy. I never faced an enemy and was never called upon to take any actual risks. I was safer in the Navy than I would have been on the street.
You can look in the mirror and see a tried and true man.
I look in the mirror and see untested potential without actuality. Which is nothing. I live each day with honor and commitment to minutia. It feels like shit.
Believe it or not I envy you.
I understand all that implies. I understand that only a fool would put themselves in harms way if not called upon to do so either by a higher cause or an immediate need.
I’ve worked for 20 years as an electronics engineer always trying to get jobs supporting the military but was never hired in such a capacity. I’ve volunteered in various capacities but the jobs that test a man are rightfully left to the professional
Don’t say this sounds like the spoiled kid crying because he has too much. What would you trade for your honor.
Question:
Maybe someone who has been in the shit has some thoughts on how a civilian can earn the self respect that you have earned.
Forgive me for posting here. I posted without giving much thought to the name of the site.
Still I'm going to leave it because I think it should provide some peace of mind for some of you. Also, I really want your insight.
In the civilian world the kind of loyalty that you refer to is rarely needed. By rushing to the hospital did you really do anything more than lift your brothers spirits? The Dr’s and ambulance drivers did what you would have done in combat. Did your friend really turn his back on you in an emergency? I have been called a freeloader because I could not leave work early and did not give up time with my son to help a bunch of retired people paint the lodge. I’ve been told that I don’t understand commitment because my job that feeds my family was more important to me than a club meeting. The priorities are different in civilian life. A man who is late for a business meeting might never have chosen to been late when in the military.
Those of you who's honor and loyalty was tested when you were in the shit have earned a claim to greater self respect and a higher sense of honor than the rest of us.
I served in a peacetime Navy. I never faced an enemy and was never called upon to take any actual risks. I was safer in the Navy than I would have been on the street.
You can look in the mirror and see a tried and true man.
I look in the mirror and see untested potential without actuality. Which is nothing. I live each day with honor and commitment to minutia. It feels like shit.
Believe it or not I envy you.
I understand all that implies. I understand that only a fool would put themselves in harms way if not called upon to do so either by a higher cause or an immediate need.
I’ve worked for 20 years as an electronics engineer always trying to get jobs supporting the military but was never hired in such a capacity. I’ve volunteered in various capacities but the jobs that test a man are rightfully left to the professional
Don’t say this sounds like the spoiled kid crying because he has too much. What would you trade for your honor.
Question:
Maybe someone who has been in the shit has some thoughts on how a civilian can earn the self respect that you have earned.
Forgive me for posting here. I posted without giving much thought to the name of the site.
Still I'm going to leave it because I think it should provide some peace of mind for some of you. Also, I really want your insight.
Hey Superglide
Being honorable and having self respect is something you give to yourself. It may be 'earned' many ways. Doing what's necessary in combat can be one of them. Standing up for what you believe is right is another. To be a good person comes from what's in you not from the outside. Don't compare yourself to others.
On a side note, this site is for combat vets with PTSD only. There is also a sister site to this for those with other forms of PTSD. We here would ask that you would respect that aspect of this site. Thanks, and don't give up the search to become what it is you're looking for.
JarHed
Being honorable and having self respect is something you give to yourself. It may be 'earned' many ways. Doing what's necessary in combat can be one of them. Standing up for what you believe is right is another. To be a good person comes from what's in you not from the outside. Don't compare yourself to others.
On a side note, this site is for combat vets with PTSD only. There is also a sister site to this for those with other forms of PTSD. We here would ask that you would respect that aspect of this site. Thanks, and don't give up the search to become what it is you're looking for.
JarHed
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