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Complex trauma or developmental trauma

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Have you been diagnosed with PTSD by someone else?

If this guy doesn't know your whole story, then he can't say you have PTSD until he knows about your traumas that could fall under criterion A.

But either way, you have to have PTSD in order to have CPTSD.
 
I haven't. I've been diagnosed with major depression, dysthimia and most recently bipolar type II. Every time I see a psychiatrist I seem to get a new diagnosis..and none of the Ts I've seen were very clinical in their practice so they didnt diagnose.
 
I know it's important for you to have a diagnosis. Why? It doesn't validate your suffering. You are suffering as much as anyone, diagnosis or not. Are you looking for a truth you can hold on to? I mean this in the best of ways. I hear your frustration with the system, and I know that having a diagnosis would give you a point to move forward from, so is there anyway you could see a psychiatrist? I have developmental trauma and cPTSD, and I don't think I suffer more than you. I know that may sound silly, but you those diagnoses you do have are really distressing and mind numbing.
 
Does anyone get fixated on their diagnosis in therapy?
My T says I have developmental trauma and that kind...

I know it's important for you to have a diagnosis. Why? It doesn't validate your suffering. You are...
Complex PTSD and Developmental PTSD are the same diagnosis and is more severe than PTSD because the trauma occurred at a young age for a certain amount of time. CPTSD occurs when the trauma occurs when the child's personality is still forming and therefore the person does not complete those rights pf passage that move us toward emotional maturity. Think of a 30 y/o person who acts like a 13 year old. People get "stuck" in the developmental stage in which the trauma occurred. That is often why typical therapy and meds have limited success. I recommend researching Eric Erickson's stages of psycho-social development and see where you think you fit. Do this with your Therapist or on you own. If at any time you feel overwhelmed by emotions that encourage you toward self harm, please get to you local ER.

Also understand that CPTSD is not accepted (yet) by the DSM V, but there is much research out there so I suspect in time it will be. Its treatment is different for regular PTSD; it needs to be more intense and often times psychodynamic. there are very good books out there that will help you understand your behavior so you can hopefully reconcile those intense feelings you have about yourself. Those felling's do not reflect who you are. The real WHOLE you is waiting to be discovered. Believe that about yourself if nothing else.
 
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Complex PTSD and Developmental PTSD are the same diagnosis and is more severe than PTSD because the trauma occurred at a young age for a certain amount of time

Nope.

Adults with no history of childhood trauma can get cPTSD, as well. Even the very earliest proposals of cPTSD by Judith Herman included prisoners of war & repeated tours of combat. While there are child soldiers/POWs, it's predominantly an adult population. The final ICD diagnosis of cPTSD? Is even broader in its scope.

There also isn't a diagnosis of Developmental PTSD. If that was just a typo and you meant to say that Developmental Trauma & complex PTSD are the same diagnosis? You should know they're 2 very different things. A person may experience developmental trauma and have any of several diagnosis, including PTSD or cPTSD but not limited to either, or none at all.

You might be interested in reading this >>> Complex PTSD (CPTSD) – Complex Trauma
 
I know it's important for you to have a diagnosis. Why? It doesn't validate your suffering. You are...
Its important to me because all the books I read about complex trauma resonated with me. For example the book titled 'its not you, it's what happened to you' was an eye opener that I read at the very beginning of my journey. It was all about complex trauma and how it screws with you. So if I don't have complex trauma then it's not what happened to me.. It's ME. I'm evil.

I know it's important for you to have a diagnosis. Why? It doesn't validate your suffering. You are...
Also I'm curious to know how your T explained each of your diagnoses. Did he/she explain how developmental trauma is different from CPTSD?
 
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When I first read your first post, my first thought was "does it actually matter what your dx is?" And yeah, I get it. It can help to know. But a lot of mental health and medical health issues are inexact. The label isn't what tells you whether you deserve to be feeling pain. The label is a tool so you can understand, treat, and communicate about your pain.

Look at something completely different. I was told I probably had fibromyalgia. I went to a specialist who said "nope" you have chronic myfascial pain syndrome. Another doctor, who wasn't a specialist said it probably was fibormyalgia. My chiropractor said none of it fits me. And for neither condition is there (currently) a definitive test. Doctor's can do an exam, but it's not the same as a decisive blood test or x-ray where there's no doubt. So where does that leave me? I could go to another doctor and get another diagnosis potentially. I could obsess over what I have. I could feel like I must be a fake, liar, drama king etc.... and to be fair, in my darkest moments I do. But the reality is I have pain most of the time. I have fatigue. My muscles knot up like crazy. I tend to use the chronic myofascial pain explanation when talking to medical people because it seems to most accurately describe what I experience. When talking to non-medical people I sometimes say fibro, because chronic myofascial pain syndrome is too freaking long to say and no one has ever heard of it. Knowing that one (or both) of those labels might apply to me, was useful because then I could learn what could potentially help me. I could learn how to care for myself. But those labels don't define me. And if both of those labels went away, my pain and other symptoms aren't going to go magically away (I wish!).

Its important to me because all the books I read about complex trauma resonated with me.

Great, it resonated with you. That means there are things you can learn from it. I have read books about being deaf. There are things there that resonate with me. Not only am I not deaf, I have better than average hearing. Does that mean I'm wrong to take away some learning from the books I've read? And I'm not saying that you don't have complex PTSD. I'm trying to let you know, your experience is real. Even if we called it the floopy disorder, all the feelings and struggles you have still exist and still matter. And you are not evil or a fake.

And obsessing over the exact thing he said, isn't going to help you. As I read everyone talking about parts, I was getting concerned that we were sending you down a rabbit whole because we don't know what he even meant by parts. And don't forget, your T was responding to things you said. In your original post, there is mention of complex trauma, complex ptsd, development trauma, parts (whatever was meant by that) and more. Do you know how easy it would be for one of you to mishear each other or misspeak? All it really means is you and your T have a lot more conversations ahead so you can both gain a better understanding of you and work towards the real goal, of helping you heal from your very real pain.
 
Also I'm curious to know how your T explained each of your diagnoses
Gosh, I was so dissociated back then I don't remember much. I was the one who brought up PTSD. My brother had it and so I researched it. I had all of the symptoms so I told my T, "I don't want to have PTSD, but I think that I do", and he said yes. I then told him that I didn't want him to write it in my record but I thought he would. He said yes. Over time, he educated me on PTSD, and how what we were doing in therapy was helping. He would say something like, people with severe cPTSD, and I would correct him by telling him it wasn't in the DSM, and he would say it should be. I wouldn't have been able to hear it all at once at the time, so it took a long time. I was really, really bad. I was so dissociated that the real world seemed like a dream. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. I now see another trauma specialist who worked with children at her last job. I have alters, but they are co-conscious so I'm not DID. I wish I could help you more.

It IS what happened to you. You ARE NOT evil.
 
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Complex PTSD and Developmental PTSD are the same diagnosis and is more severe than PTSD because the trauma occurred at a young age for a certain amount of time.
Neither of these points are true. Developmental PTSD doesn't exist.

Developmental trauma isn't a disease or disorder, it's described trauma at a time when a child is developing - the degree to which a child then is impacted depends on a lot of things including the quality of caregiving they receive. Complex PTSD has been explained by others but isn't necessarily more severe than PTSD - some people are severely impacted by PTSD from a single significant trauma, sometimes more so than someone with relatively well treated complex PTSD.

It's not a "who suffers most" competition and people with no formal diagnosis st all can suffer incredible pain. @Moo I hear that having the "right" diagnosis in your mind would give you something, I wonder if you can see that irrespective of diagnosis your pain matters.
 
@Moo sometimes it can seem a more intense diagnosis can then justify the distress
we're feeling. The reality is that different therapists have different perspectives and you
could end up with a number of different diagnosis that may or may not fit.

Being dysregulated can be intensely painful regardless of your diagnosis. Clarifying things
with your therapist makes sense of course, and while you're waiting for this to happen
look into whatever info you can find about self soothing and building a nurturing parent
internal voice. Regardless of whatever the initial cause, trauma, neglect, abuse, whatever,
being without that calm kind nurturing voice and self soothing techniques can make
those episodes of distress and loss of emotional regulation all the more intense.

Wish you the best of luck, take care and keep reaching out for support
 
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