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Linzee

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Hi all, new here though I have known of the site for a while. Decided it was time to join as I am part of this community. Hope its okay to be here and share I'm kind of lost right now.

Its the first time I've shared so its a long one I'm afraid. Hope you've got the time to help.
Met an amazing guy nearly 2 years ago. He initiated everything and we saw each other and communicated at a very slow, steady pace, which was fine.

We spoke about a lot in getting to know each other including our jobs (at the time I worked with adults with severe learning disabilities and mental health illnesses).

One evening he randomly mentioned he suffers with PTSD. I simply listened to what he had to say and thanked him for being so open with me. He didn't go in to what the cause was at that time and I didn't question him.
Just let him know that he can talk to me anytime he wishes to.

I could tell over the next few weeks we got closer and he relaxed more as the feelings grew I guess. Then I felt him begin to pull away suddenly when things with us seemed fine and happy.

I left him be for a couple of weeks as it was clear he wanted to be alone but actually say so to avoid hurting me. I wanted to make it easy for him so I text him something he could read and not have to reply to.

Basically said I respect you are dealing with something very difficult and need space and time to do that in your own way. However I would hope you still see as part of the picture in your journey as I accept and care about you the way you are.

He was at work and responded by calling me straight back. We talked for a bit and though controlled I could tell he was emotional as was I with a lump in my throat. He said he wanted to be honest that he wasn't ready for a relationship right now. But how amazing I was etc...

I told him I would still be here for him and he thanked me and it basically ended there very quietly. I let him go without drama as I....loved him and just wanted the best for him. Even without me.

Skip to a year later no contact, I dated a few other guys, nothing serious and nothing that sparked naturally the way I felt with my guy. I had moved on however though of course I still thought of him.

Out of blue one day I receive an email from him saying he hasn't been able to stop thinking about me for a year. He exhausted all resources to track me down just to find me again to contact me. As he no longer had my contact information. And that if I'm available and willing he would love to reconnect with me...

This blew me away as it took me some time to get over him. And I guess I really hadn't as no other guy could compare.

Anyway it just happened to be my birthday coming up and though I had made plans he was coming out with all the gestures and gifts and dates as if to try and woo me all over again. It was sweet but I didn't get it?

We decided to have a talk early on about where we were both at etc...and he says that though his triggers/ symptoms are a lot less he's still dealing with it. He describes himself as feeling 90% "normal" most of the time. He said he still needs to take things slow but that a year apart made him realise that I am everything in a woman he wants etc...

Over next few weeks was Christmas and obviously in to a new year. Things were great and one evening before Christmas he cooked and invited me over as he said he wanted to talk. That night after we ate we sat together and he told me every last detail of the trauma he suffered (it was a brutal gang attack in another country when he was younger). My heart skipped a beat and I held my breath through most of it as I listened and just held on to him. It was very emotional moment for us both...

So we went on from there steadily seeing each other and immersing ourselves more. We have lots of fun laugh out loud moments too, its not all doom and gloom. Recently I've been under some stress with work and other issues and he has been there to support, encourage and advise me 100%! I felt so good to be able to lean on him a little too.

I was a son who I haven't introduced him to yet. As I would never do so unless it was a serious committed relationship. Recently my guy has asked lot questions and shown a lot more interest in knowing about that side of things. He's curious about the relationship my son has with his dad (its non-existent) and it made him mad to learn he chooses not to be part of his life. I didn't say much and he went on a rant in my house about how disgusting it was to treat us that way. I couldn't believe how passionate and compassionate he was being and thought maybe this meant we could start moving forward more seriously.

I already know how I feel about him it just grows deeper and more complex over the time we spend together. We're both in our mid thirties and mature enough to know what we want.

Just recently however I have noticed him pulling away again like he did nearly 2 years ago. I know with PTSD there are times he goes into the 'fog' without warning but will eventually find his way out again if left alone to do it.
I just don't know if this is one of those times or if the level of our relationship/contact is overwhelming him and he's gone for good!

I have learnt in general to never chase a man and let them come to you. I have done so with this guy too but its very hard to know if its PTSD or just messing me about...? I don't truly believe at this stage its the latter and wouldn't accuse him of it.

I am a pretty secure and strong person. I don't need constant reassurance and we've never had the type of relationship that requires constant calling/texting/meeting. There's a quiet feeling of calm and knowing between us that is electric when we are together.

I sent him one text a few days ago letting him know I understand he needs space right now and thanking him for being there for me, when I needed him recently. I told him the message does not require a response and that I care about him and will be here when he's ready.

If it truly is the PTSD keeping him in the fog and away from me right now then I hope that message helps reassure him and take the pressure off. However, how do I know he hasn't just let me go completely and maybe to someone else...

I hope someone has the patience to read this. No one from my real life would ever understand why I would knowingly choose to cope with this. But its simple to me, I love him in spite of it.
Thank you.
 
My dear @Linzee , you are not alone. I am the same woman, loving guy with PTSD, choosing him over and over.
Loving unconditionally. You're extraordinary woman :hug:.

There is so little we can do for them. No matter what we do or say, irrational monster will always find a way...
 
@Linzee

In answer to your question ... you don't know and unless he communicates that to you then you won't know! I have the same situations sometimes with my SO, he isolated but doesn't tell me. This I am completely fine with, like you I can give him space and I know I'm doing the best thing for him. However, my mind does start to go into over drive after a few days and all these though of 'is he seeing someone else' 'is he not speaking to me because he's done or he is not well' and it becomes something that eats me up and it's unhealthy.

I think that you're doing the best thing by giving him space, I think the outcome could be worse if you didn't! In all honestly it really does just sound like he's having a bit of a struggle and needs time away to clear his head and digest life bit by bit. I've often compared isolation to clearing out your sock drawer, you take some time to clear out your sock drawer put all the matching socks together, throw out the ones that don't match or have holes and when it's done, the process starts all over again. The sock drawer is fine for a while then they start getting messed up etc. And then it's time for another clear out! PTSD is a fairly cyclic disorder, and anniversaries are particularly hard. My SO struggles from November onto April, I've been isolated from around 4/5 times during this period, no longer than 5 days but it's happened.

During these periods I TRY to concentrate on me, I literally throw myself into everything. This is preparing me for both outcomes, when he does come out of his shell I am healthier, fitter and as happy as I can be which makes him see that I can cope when he has these wobblers which lessens the guilt and then if he does leave me or decide not to be with me, I know I'm fine and can live without him and keep throwing myself into all the things I love - On a side note I don't want to live without him but if it came to it I can!

Hugs to you, you sound like you're doing great :hug:
 
My dear @Linzee , you are not alone. I am the same woman, loving guy with PTSD, cho...

Thank you for responding, I am already a patient person but this has made me find new depths to my patience and understanding. They don't give us much to work with.
 
@Linzee

In answer to your question ... you don't know and unless he communicates...

Wow! Thank you. I totally get the sock drawer analogy, makes a lot of sense. I am in it for the long haul, if he was physically disabled and we connected and fell in love I wouldn't just leave when the going got tough. I'm about to start a new job which he has supported me a lot with and I always make sure I keep making plans with friends and go to the gym and keep up my writing ( I write short stories and poetry) all like you say so I have my own healthy life if he's in it or not. Thank you.
 
Wow! Thank you. I totally get the sock drawer analogy, makes a lot of sense. I am in it for the long hau...

No problem, I have had some issues of late that I haven't asked for support for from my sufferer but he could definitely sense my stress and unhappiness which impacted our friendship somewhat! I took a few days out and then when I came out of my hole he went into one! I'm glad your sufferer could support you, although it does get overwhelming sometimes which is maybe why he's taken some time out? Have you looked at the stress cup analogy on here? It's like the sock drawer analogy, I go back to it a lot to just reassure myself through isolation periods!

Keep it up, and feel free to reach out to anyone on here! Without this site and the support I've received I dont know what position me and my SO would be in :tdown:
 
No problem, I have had some issues of late that I haven't asked for support for from my sufferer but...

Yeah, know what you mean. I feel like this us a safe place to talk with people who understand. I wouldn't want to break his trust by telling anyone close to us (not that they would understand).
Sorry you're going through similar right now also :( . I have heard if the cup analogy but think I need to re-visit also ti remind myself. Thanks again. Already feel I am learning more. :hug:
 
Hello and I'm sorry for the confusion your friend is causing you. What I say next I do so with compassion for you and your son. Might it be important to remember you need to feel safe here too? That having a reliable, available partner is important? Is there some reason you are settling for less than that? Could there be co-dependent issues on your side? I note you are a counsellor but is it possible there's some confusion between a therapeutic and an equal and loving primary relationship? Have you inadvertently fallen into one rather than the other? We can share things with counsellors but not then want to have to live with those truths daily in the face of another. It appears that you have done much of the hard work in the relationship. This may be as good as it gets. If you haven't already talked to him about this, it might be wise to do so. One of my concerns is that there seems to be some apologizing for his behavior which, even with a person who has PTSD or CPTSD, doesn't have to be thoughtless behavior. I suffer but if I need time alone I will tell the people I love upfront and reassure them it's not about them. Honesty is so important. I also have concerns about some of his reactions. Think hard about whether you may be lulling yourself into accepting behavior that isn't nourishing for you. If you think a relationship should be equal and supportive rather than dramatic and as changeable as you describe, then maybe it's time to clear that up in your own heart and mind? I don't think you would have written on this thread if you didn't have concerns yourself in this regard. We can't save others. They have to meet us halfway. I wish you all the best and understand how difficult this might be for you...J
 
One thing I've found is that sacrifices don't work long term. So when I find myself sacrificing? I need to have a chat with myself, figure out where my wants end & needs begin, exactly where I begin sacrificing; so I can have a chat with my person & see if we can work out a compromise. Compromising meaning that we both get what we need, and ideally both also get what we want. So that neither of us is sacrificing. :)
 
In today's Sunday Times Magazine, India Knight has an interesting article about how too men woman are looking for fairy tale heroes. She cites the story of Helen Bailey, the widowed and bereaved children's author, who got chatting to a man who, online, appeared to meet such fantastical criteria. Then, using some detective work, the man showed up at her home unannounced and she decided, against her gut instinct, to trust him. People often tell us who they are upfront, not necessarily in straight forward ways and yet we argue with the reality for our own reasons. With CPTSD we sometimes think we can't trust our gut when we can.

In today's Sunday Times Magazine, India Knight has an interesting article about how too men woman are look...
Sorry! that should have read: 'too MANY women...'
 
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