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Destined To Be Alone Forever

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I'm sorry too Reallydown. Is A in another relationship? That man I was talking about that I lost when my brain shut off, B...Ha, A..and B... =) I talked to his mom a while back and lets just say don't ever do that, don't ever ask for more info on someone you hurt over because it just makes it worse! So there I am hoping she's going to say something bad about him. Which of course is silly of me anyway because what mom would say anything bad about their son! But you know a big part of me wants to hear that's he's married or been married 3 times and has to pay lots of child support, or lived with all these women or something...and then maybe I would just stop caring and having PTSD symptoms with that past relationship....Right. Yeah, no, you know what she says to me? He has been in the military the whole time, never got married and he does not get serious about women. I say nothing even though I am like what do I do with that? Because he was serious about me and he was going to marry me! Because he was shut down when I got to him, and he opened up for me, and then shut down again. Well geez that hurts. And the closure from the relationship because it didn't have any, has to come from me....On another awful note, my husband announced yesterday he is done...That's what he said, it's over, unless I commit to the relationship right now, which I just hurt all over so it's hard to figure out what I want. There's stuff to forgive with him and I don't know if there's too much crap between us. When he said that, I was sobbing and underneath it all was this sense of relief but I don't know why I'm relieved! Is it because he's been after me to make a decision and I was anxious over it, terrified i'd make the wrong decision and regret it, and he made it for me so now I don't have to do it. Or if the whole relationship was too much...Or if I am just scared of having a real relationship and being vulnerable and I just want to live in PTSD flashback fantasy land with the other guy cuz now he's safe! Geez. I cannot figure myself out! Well I just want to concentrate on getting better and figuring out what on earth I want. Because I have just been in so much emotional pain, it's like I don't know what I want, I just don't want to be here! And i'm just stuck in the victimized stuff in my life and can't seem to get out. I feel like my life is just falling apart! But I guess really it did a long, long time ago and i'm just realizing it now and actually dealing with it. It's just so hard. And sorry this is depressing! It's time to take charge of my life now.
 
I'm sorry too Reallydown. Is A in another relationship?

No, no...that's the one I was referring to although, as I said above, it never really got a chance...I killed it in its infancy.

Cindy, sorry to read you're having such a hard time. Wish I could offer any words of wisdom but in this area I'm pretty useless. Hang in there.
 
No, no...that's the one I was referring to although, as I said above, it never really got a chance...I killed it in its infancy.

Cindy, sorry to read you're having such a hard time. Wish I could offer any words of wisdom but in this area I'm pretty useless. Hang in there.
Yes, I remember you saying it wasn't really a relationship. I just wondered because you said he moved on if he was in a relationship with someone else now. I meant it would be hard to see that but at least it would be closure or finality to it you know. Instead of my past guy...where I just have to come to grips. And honestly I feel like I am just hiding behind B..right now so I don't have to face the situation with my husband because I have been thinking about him way too much, like maybe if I'm single and you know he's single, maybe I could get him to see me. Oh geez, because I am not in a healthy place at all. I have no idea when I'm going to be. And i'm just obsessing about him and all of my past crap, writing letters to him in my head. It's not good at all. I'm so tired of my brain and it's trying to hide behind crap because it's done that for years and years because it didn't want to look at the sick shit that happened to me. I want to face all the ugliness head on...and I can't even control my own brain! I've been depressed to the point of almost being sucidial because everything that happened to me is just compounded. My husband was yelling at me and bringing B... up to me and going, do you think he'd want you to let all of this ruin your life? No, he wouldn't. He would be yelling at me and throwing in lots of swear words since he was in the military. Because he did that in the past when all I thought I was dealing with was date rape, that's all I wanted to look at! He was yelling at me then, going, "How long are you going to let yourself be afraid?" And then he figured me out and told me I was hiding behind these rules I had for myself like not going to guys apartments. "You think that keeps you safe? It doesn't. You have to admit you were powerless and vulnerable and that's what scares you!" And not only that but hiding behind the whole experience because there was someting worse, telling me I liked that guy and his apartment because then I didn't have to look at what really had terrified me. Of course he was right. Also you know, my husband couldn't help finding out but the whole thing with B...well you know he knew about him anyway, since he was an exboyfriend but he just thought he was a jerk and wanted to shack up with me because that's what I believed. Sigh. Then when the whole PTSD blocked memories came up, I was sobbing over B... going OMG I just left him standing there. I loved him. And I was repeating it and my husband was there and oh geez. Seeing your wife sobbing over a guy she loved and losing it is not good for any relationship esp. one like ours that wasn't strong to begin with. He started asking me questions like if your brain hadn't shut off and blocked him out do you think you and I still would have ended up together? And you know when your husband asks you something like that, really you should just lie, you should, or go oh well that doesn't matter now cuz we're married. No, you know what I say since I'm an idiot? LOL. sorry that was mean to myself. I say, no, if you want to play the what if game, then no, we wouldn't be together because if my brain hadn't shut off, I would have never left him and I would have married him and you and I wouldn't have even met. (Because the only reason we did is because my friend took me to his house and then her and his family were setting us up on a date and i'm sure they wouldn't have done that if I was in a relationship.) Then after that he was insecure about him...SIGH. Well of course cuz I was having a hard time getting over stuff. And he says he can't handle the PTSD because he has his own problem and it is too much. And like I said, I'm hurt by stuff he did. It reminds me of the past which was not good with him and I keep bringing it up to him and he hates it, and geez I don't want to be THAT woman you know. Now like I said, I am so tired of my brain. I can't focus. it wanders. And you know it still doesn't want to look at the whole picture of what caused the PTSD! It trys to play games and I don't like it one bit. Because I know what happened, I have enough of it, but no it doesn't want to see it. I can feel it, all of it, and my brain just wants to put up this wall through the middle of it and go...I'm not going past that...I don't remember. Yeah right, it just doesn't want to! I'm so sick of my brain lying to me. I lied to myself so well, didn't even know when I was doing it. And my brain is still trying to do it, hide behind stuff, and do mental gymnastics, so it can cope..It makes no sense! Because what does it do when I love B...and get scared of losing him, it goes, let's pretend he doesn't exist, he's a whole different guy! One you don't really like because he's a jerk. And then when you lose him, it won't hurt so much! Seriously? Because then it just created the loss for itself... because he wasn't going to leave me, my brain left him! He even said that to me, "CIndy you've lost me. And you don't realize you've lost anything." And honestly I had a hard time breaking with jerky him! It was like6 months before I wanted to go on a date and I didn't even think we were serious. SIGH. Again this is getting long. And I don't know if it's helping me. I did have a breakthrough with the doctor with my traumatic experience and since then i've been even more stuck in the past. I think that thread I was reading about EMDR and dealing with your trauma was true, it gets worse at first before it gets better. I'm really hoping it's going to work and get me through this. Here's hoping I can deal with all this crap and get in a healthy spot!
 
Just wanted to say maddog i can relate to this and i am to your age. Part of me longs for a relationship and for kids etc but i just don't think i am capable of having any kin d of serious relationship or any intimate relationship full stop. Havent read all your post in depth as don't have concentration at moment but just wanted to say i hear ya.
 
Hi.

This is my first post here. Finally I have arrived at the place I have belonged for so long but did not know. I can so relate. I am 36. I was married for 11 years (13, but separated the last two). And believe it or not, still, I can truthfully say that I have never been in a healthy relationship. My marriage has caused my severe retraumatization. Actually, all my male partners have. It has taken half my life, literally, to find out the reason why my men are the way they are -- and since finding out, I have an easier time with things. Still, I am here and now, and still longing for a healthy relationship. I think I could have one with a partner who gives me some time with some things. Many things, my intial traumas, I have worked through and put behind me. At times though I think it's impossible and there isn't any one for me. At other times, I do not want to try again. At yet other times, I do want to try again because finally I have found the reason for my men being so different and odd and hurtful -- and having found out that it's a disability and not their own meanness or that I am crazy has helped. And still, I get attracted to those men. It's difficult to learn a new way of loving or rather a new kind of men to even take notice of...

I do not think I'm ready to give up yet. I only found out about my choice of a very particular type of men few months ago -- because they are all the same type of man (with the same neurological disability), all my life I thought that all men are like them! Now I know that is not the case. So, in a way, it is only lately that it has really become possible for me to see that there really are men out there who are different than "mine" now it is about learning to get into contact. At the same time, I am so tired about it all.
It is so saddening how much trauma or retraumatization can keep a person in dreamiland. I really feel as if I just died, my view on the world, on men, on myself, on everything changed radically. I'm changed forever. And now that I know what normal is and that I have never had it in any of my relationships (be it family or friends, partners, etc.), I have to learn everything anew. I feel as if, during the last 18 months, I died and been born again into the real world.

I can relate to all you have been saying, very much so. Grateful for finding this forum.
 
I knoww that feeling!! And welcome from another newcomer! Good thing you have found out that you've been seeking the wrong type of men and want to start anew. I kina envy that feeling. I gave up. No more strength. But I am happy for all them that gives it a go!
 
30 sounds young to me (I'm in the US). My therapist said to work on desensitizing to people first through group activities (like meetup). I guess the next step would be working on friendships. It's hard. I haven't made any progress since I was your age (or ever really). I am thinking I want to try to get good at cooking and just cook for people. That seems safe.
 
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