Let take some time to think about those who are currently suffering in this world.

[Hallowean]

Forget problems of our own and focus on things that can possibly help save others. This is also a way to heal from our own pain.

How about the abuse we take from our own governments and media for starters.

 

[Weemie]

To be honest I tend to think of this a different way which is less about suppressing my own experiences but rather the capacity to use my experiences in service of healing. This means not forgetting them but rather honoring them as legitimate. And that is a very difficult thing to do for many of us.

It is, however, what I would encourage everyone to do. It's very easy to minimize our experiences by saying that others have it worse but that view demonstrates unkindness to ourselves. And in seeking healing both myself, and to potentially assist others in their healing process as well.

A good chunk of my life has been the pursuit of understanding what happened to me. Incidentally, I have been able to pass that information onto others.

In Judaism we call it tzedekah which translates roughly to "charity." And charity can appear in multiple forms -- monetary, items (food/blankets/w.e) and time/information. The capacity that many of us have to "save" others -- realistically, that's probably not going to happen.

No matter how much I wish that others did not experience suffering I am not equipped to stop human trafficking. All that I can do is donate my time and energy to educating others about it and to opening the conversation around it and to creating spaces where others feel safe discussing their experiences.

 

[Hallowean]

To be honest I tend to think of this a different way which is less about suppressing my own experiences but rather the capacity to use my experiences in service of healing. This means not forgetting them but rather honoring them as legitimate. And that is a very difficult thing to do for many of us.

It is, however, what I would encourage everyone to do. It's very easy to minimize our experiences by saying that others have it worse but that view demonstrates unkindness to ourselves. And in seeking healing both myself, and to potentially assist others in their healing process as well.

A good chunk of my life has been the pursuit of understanding what happened to me. Incidentally, I have been able to pass that information onto others.

In Judaism we call it tzedekah which translates roughly to "charity." And charity can appear in multiple forms -- monetary, items (food/blankets/w.e) and time/information. The capacity that many of us have to "save" others -- realistically, that's probably not going to happen.

No matter how much I wish that others did not experience suffering I am not equipped to stop human trafficking. All that I can do is donate my time and energy to educating others about it and to opening the conversation around it and to creating spaces where others feel safe discussing their experiences.

You are suffering so much. My heart and being aches for you. You have lived for so long tormented by your abuses. It's hard to move forward...it's hard to find the comfortable line to sail. You have loads of wisdom partly due to the trauma you didn't ask for.

In Judaism, do you respect Christ as Lord and Savior?

You are suffering so much. My heart and being aches for you. You have lived for so long tormented by your abuses. It's hard to move forward...it's hard to find the comfortable line to sail. You have loads of wisdom partly due to the trauma you didn't ask for.

In Judaism, do you respect Christ as Lord and Savior?

I am a Latter Day Saint BTW (aka mormon).

 

[joeylittle]

This thread has been moved into Social, as it's a more appropriate fit.

 

[Hallowean]

Not sure where social is located.

 

[Weemie]

In Judaism, do you respect Christ as Lord and Savior?

Nope.

The belief that Jesus is God, the Son of God, or a person of the Trinity, is incompatible with Jewish theology. Jews believe Jesus did not fulfill messianic prophecies that establish the criteria for the coming of the messiah.[6] Judaism does not accept Jesus as a divine being, an intermediary between humans and God, a messiah, or holy. Belief in the Trinity is also held to be incompatible with Judaism, as are a number of other tenets of Christianity.

It's the defining distinction between Christianity and Judaism and the reason for their split. Conversations of religion in this context can be fairly challenging as there is a history in Christianity of forcibly attempting to convert us && was the guiding feature of the Spanish Inquisition (conversos, bnei anusim, etc).

We have a lot of intergenerational trauma from attempted conversion & to this day "Messianic Jews" (Christians) attempt to convert less educated Jews & appropriate/outright steal our religious artifacts. It can be a bit of a touchy subject.

Personally, I respect that you believe it & I respect you as an individual human person with the right to believe and express those beliefs how you see fit (outside of forcible conversion due to its history of violence, such as in the genocide of indigenous Native Americans).

But do not share that belief.

 

[caroline_13]

Nope.



It's the defining distinction between Christianity and Judaism and the reason for their split. Conversations of religion in this context can be fairly challenging as there is a history in Christianity of forcibly attempting to convert us && was the guiding feature of the Spanish Inquisition (conversos, bnei anusim, etc).

We have a lot of intergenerational trauma from attempted conversion & to this day "Messianic Jews" (Christians) attempt to convert less educated Jews & appropriate/outright steal our religious artifacts. It can be a bit of a touchy subject.

Personally, I respect that you believe it & I respect you as an individual human person with the right to believe and express those beliefs how you see fit (outside of forcible conversion due to its history of violence, such as in the genocide of indigenous Native Americans).

But do not share that belief.

I think it's fair to say several of us in this group have trauma from standardized religions being forced on us.

I believe in the Universe, in god, but not the god of Christianity. But, I respect that may hold different meaning for someone else and I respect others who do. A big problem I have is how pushy the Christian church can be.

 

[DharmaGirl]

Forget problems of our own and focus on things that can possibly help save others. This is also a way to heal from our own pain.

How about the abuse we take from our own governments and media for starters.

I do focus on helping others. I don't believe the government and media are abusive because I'm intelligent enough to look for facts and sources that can be proved. Really proved by facts, not someone saying they have proof. Many people in the rural community where I live believe the government is watching them. Really? Most of the government workers are busy doing their jobs, not watching a bunch of farmers complain about government. You are allowed to complain about the government since this is America.

 

[caroline_13]

To be honest I tend to think of this a different way which is less about suppressing my own experiences but rather the capacity to use my experiences in service of healing. This means not forgetting them but rather honoring them as legitimate. And that is a very difficult thing to do for many of us.

It is, however, what I would encourage everyone to do. It's very easy to minimize our experiences by saying that others have it worse but that view demonstrates unkindness to ourselves. And in seeking healing both myself, and to potentially assist others in their healing process as well.

A good chunk of my life has been the pursuit of understanding what happened to me. Incidentally, I have been able to pass that information onto others.

In Judaism we call it tzedekah which translates roughly to "charity." And charity can appear in multiple forms -- monetary, items (food/blankets/w.e) and time/information. The capacity that many of us have to "save" others -- realistically, that's probably not going to happen.

No matter how much I wish that others did not experience suffering I am not equipped to stop human trafficking. All that I can do is donate my time and energy to educating others about it and to opening the conversation around it and to creating spaces where others feel safe discussing their experiences.

This is such a good post.

When we show up for ourselves, then we can show up for others.

The world deserves a healthy and happy us.

Also: you never know what someone else is going through, and this cuts both ways. Others have the capacity to experience an adverse experience differently than we might think (less painful, for instance) and/or move past it quicker. This is something else I've learned. Sometimes others don't need or want us to get stuck in the weeds with them.