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Maintain Anger At Parents-or To Understand, Forgive, And Accept

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My mother grew up poor and a country girl with an 8th grade education. She was quite attractive. She moved to a big city and married a man that was educated. I believe they drank a lot together-a time when smoking was fashionable. They had four daughters. There were always problems but after the last child, she evidently had a nervous breakdown. (the baby got no attention due to this).Her husband was a alcoholic although he maintained good employment- very functional alcoholic. She believed he was sexually abusing the oldest daughter. This was a time when you did not make those accusations-which led her to the breakdown anyway. She got a attorney and filed for divorce. He told her not to drink alcohol and she did not-for many years.

Following the divorce, an affair ensued with the attorney for 7 years at which time she became pregnant. The attorney told her that since he was married, she was to seduce her ex and then tell him she was pregnant. She did this and it worked. She remarried her first husband but continued the affair with the attorney. She really loved this guy and did not see that he was a snake. The 5th daughter was born when she was 38 yrs old, the sociopath attorney was 69 yrs old. I am that daughter. When I was a year old, she divorced her husband again and continued the affair. Everyone kind of knew what was going on and just resented it. The four sisters resented me very much because our mother seemed very happy for a few years. A happy mom provides better attention to small children. Also, my older sisters had responsibilities put on them like taking me someplace so she could have her affair and fixing me food when I was hungry because she made them do it. The forth daughter who already was neglected was really dethroned when I came along.

The 4 sisters knew I belonged to the attorney and that their dad payed child support-they counted everyithing I ate as a result. Anything I did well I was crucified for by my sisters. The referred to me as the brat just because I was hungry or needed to go to the bathroom when we were out or I wanted my mother. I had a talent in acrobats but private lessens earned me the name precious. Anything that my mother let me do or have the would call me precious. Their father would pick them up and take them to dinner and for shoes, I felt so hurt that I never go to go and he didnt care to see me. My real father I saw, but I did not like or trust him when I was 3 yrs old (no idea why). I remeber just wanting to piss him off and not comply-I think I sensed my mother wanted to please him and I felt like a little trophy.

So a dysfunctional home where I remeber getting a lot of sibling abuse. Then when I was 5 , evidently the affair ended and my mom got very depressed. The violence in the home increased. One by one, sisters moved out before age 18. I was left alone. caring for a depressed drunk by age 8. Within a couple of years, the court put me in an orphanage after reports of abuse and neglect. Some phys. abuse, mostley mental. Then I took turns living with my older sisters when I was a teen. It was clear that none of them really wanted me except to babysit their kids. It was more like "you can stay here so I can continue to punish you for being born". If I caused any problems I would be sent to another sister for a few months. When I say problems, they were pretty minimal, like seeing a boy they did not like, or coming home 20 minutes late. When I was 16, while babysitting, my boyfriend came to see me even though he was not allowed. He pulled in the driveway the same time as my sister. She sent me away and didnt speak to me for a year. I got married at 17 and abused for 5 years before I told anyone. He was bi-polar and we have a daughter who is bi-polar and suffers as well, and she has now abused her children and the cycle continues.

I apologize for the length of all of this. My point is that I know the experiences my sisters have reported and can fill in the blanks of their childhoods (2 active alcoholic parents). The hated our mom and idolized their dad (even though he left them in the car for hours with a bag a chips and a coke and stayed in the bar drinking or forgot to pick them up at th skating rink). They are almost delusional about it.

My mother loved this man and allowed him to exploit her (in my opinion). As we grow up and have our own experiences, I think we have more empathy. I am not excusing her behavior in any way. I have forgiven her-writing this I realize I have not forgiven the father attorney. My sisters I forgive for being so mean, however, I have had to discontinue contact as their energy toward me is so negative and they are always looking to cause harm.
Even when there is not physical or sexual abuse, the emotional abuse. I have never abused my children but I went into a depression (than God they were in their twenties by then). It was not a choice to be ill with depression and I know that during that time I said or did things they could not understand. Im sure I seemed to lack caring for their situation with full blown sypmtoms of ptsd. I attempted suicide believing others to be better off without me. I only hope that my children forgive me for such things, for all of my imperfections, and not because it will hurt me, I dont want their anger to destroy them and cause them neck pain, irritable bowel and depression as mine has.
 
I just looked at my post and would understand why nobody would read such length. I have been on this site for a few months and this is the first time that I have shared so much, Im sure this is not the appropriate place. My T says I have ptsd from childhood but Im not convinced. There were some traumatic experiences in there but nothing I can say was bad enough to cause ptsd. I believe that my childhood set me up to be in a situation that caused ptsd as an adult.

Whatever the case, I am a believer that the answers are within ourselves. We are lucky if others take responsiblity for what they have done but we can overcome even if they dont. They can justify their behavior just as I can say that reasons that I am unable to do things is due to my ptsd.

There is a quote but I dont know who said it "If we could clearly see the whole truth-we would be angry at nobody"
My goal is to be angry at nobody as I want that sense of peace in my life
 
Brat,
I read all of your post - please don't feel like it's not being read and that no one cares, and do not feel like the experiences you had weren't "enough" to cause PTSD. It sounds like you had a crazy childhood, again something I can relate to (If you want to know all of it, you can look at my Trauma Diary, Broken and Alone. That is long =)...), do not feel alone. I'm sure you're children will understand someday what led you to the things you tried, and I'm sure you will find a stronger bond with them through it all. As for the older siblings part, it's not the same but my sister and I are in a similar situation. She idolizes my mother now, and believes (when she is six hours away) that nothing is wrong with our mother. She feel's the woman can do no wrong, and that she (my sister) had all the problems and that is why she had to leave our home at 16. I am the bad person for being so angry for "no reason" at our mother. I am the one who needs to grow up, to move on, and to see the truth - which in their eyes is that my father and I have done all the wrongs. My sister's vision is clouded by her drug and alcohol addiction, while my mothers is clouded by not only those but also Bi-polar disorder, and I believe a Narcissistic personality disorder. You are not alone in your pain. It is real, and it will heal.
Hugs and happy thoughts,
Mouse
 
Sometime I think acceptance of who they were; are; what was; and what is, may be the best course. But I think we may have to accept ourselves first, before we can accept them. Otherwise the abuse dynamic just replays.
I believe in acceptance in this sense and also realize parents may have done the best they could. I can forgive the ignorance but I don't believe acceptance of what they did is healthy as that only opens the door for perpetuation of similar acts. I can understand, for example why my mother did what she did, but it was wrong by me, and if I could stop it well she then held the same power at some point but she made her choices. I strove to get out of the toxicity and it wasn't easy and it took years. Me being abused is no excuse nor does it deserve forgiveness if I abused my son. I would forgive general parental mistakes as no-one is given a manual but there is a line in the the sand and when it is crossed I think that does not deserve forgiveness.

Breaking an existing abuse cycle is fundamental more than forgiveness.

Based on what I know about PTSD, it is better for the 'abused' to forgive themselves and not place blame on themselves. That type of forgiveness is more powerful than forgiving someone else. As once you find peace within yourself then you can move forward and deal with the other aspects of trauma.

To me not being able to accept what a parent did was wrong often brings unnecessary self shame and even loathing of the child who has abused. That has to stop in order for the child to heal and the only way out of that I see is apportioning responsibility to where it lay which means working on the child first. It's a bit like the saying " you have to love yourself before you can love others".
 
I should clarify. Acceptance that they were horrible, will not change, nothing I did could have changed them, and I didn't cause it. It was what it was, it is what it is. But I have to really believe that it was not my fault and accept me, before I can accept the reality of who they were/are. Then I can move on.

Hard to express in words.
 
Thank you all for your responeses-very appreciated.

Mouse I am sorry you have to deal with all that craziness as well
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Acceptance to me includes apportioning responsibility, addressing that it was wrong, the consequences of the behavior, and yet finally accepting-which includes how others were injured such as my siblings.Our experience is not in a vacuum-many are injured as a result of such things Accepting that they will continue their course blaming "brat" for the way they feel today.

I have always had a real problem with deceptive people and am sure that it is a direct result. Coming from this, I have prided myself on being honest and forthcoming. Fortunately, I was young (teen) when I had the benefit of counseling.n my twenties (after divorcing my first husband who was abusive and bi-polar and an addict) I went to a T, joined ACOA, Co d group, read everything I could , learned, nurtured the neglected child in me, addressed my issues, gained extensive parenting knowledge before having kids in my second marraige etc. My cycle of abuse was changed. It did not happen in my home and my kids were raised pretty healthy. They are good. My second husband was a bit of a workaholic and had no need to deal with his own issues. We seperated and after that many things happened that led to my either reactivated or caused my symptoms of ptsd.

Nicolette you are right on about self blame preventing healing and loving self being the path to loving others.

Interestingly, my T tells me that the trauma has affected us on a cellular level and for real healing that must be addressed-a little confusing to me as to how to do that???? Any thoughts???

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Intothelight, that is also what I mean by acceptance. Accept that I did not cause, I cannot control, and I will never be able to change it. A bit off subject, but has anybody seen the play WICKED? I love it...has huge meaning to me
 
Interestingly, my T tells me that the trauma has affected us on a cellular level and for real healing that must be addressed-a little confusing to me as to how to do that???? Any thoughts???
I believe it is a journey. Dealing with the hurt, finding acceptance of what you could not control, removing yourself from toxic situations and relationships, finding self acceptance -self worth - self love and undoing all those negative or skewed thought processes.
 
My definition of 'acceptance' does not mean agreement, just acknowledgement.

It does NOT give credit for intent, just sees there seems to have been some intent.

It does not say that intent negates the harm, just that there was an intent, and then the action (or lack thereof.), and then the effect.

In some of my abusers, there was intent to harm, plus harmful actions, and I was harmed.

In some, the intent was something else, but the actions were harming, I was harmed.

In some, the intent was something intended to reduce or mitigate harm, the action/inaction was done, but I was harmed.

I'm never going to agree with actions or inactions which harmed me, but someday I hope to be able to fully acknowledge them without turning away, minimizing, excusing, or taking more than my responsibilty.

Great thread!
 
I believe it is a journey. Dealing with the hurt, finding acceptance of what you could not control, removing yourself from toxic situations and relationships, finding self acceptance -self worth - self love and undoing all those negative or skewed thought processes.

They have found evidence that the terminal ends of our DNA, the telomeres, are shortened by trauma...which can trim years, if not decades off our life.

But interesting and hopeful is that laughter, fun, positive exeriences seem to be able to heal the telomeres.

The altered telomeres would also possibly explain intergenerational trauma.
 
Basically, we all have to find our own way to forgiveness. As Nicolette pointed out, we have to learn how to forgive ourselves for assuming someone else's responsabilities. I too had issues with my parents, especially my mother. For me, to find some peace, I had to accept that I assumed - as a confused child - that what happened was my fault... which was not true. Then I felt anger, true ANGER, towards my parents, especially my mother. She had gotten professional help, but didn't use the coping ressources shown to her. She's a forever married to her alcoholism. I finished by forgiving her soul, but I cannot forgive what she did as she is unable to repair. All she says is that it wasn't her fault - it's ALWAYS someone else's fault for why she acted that way. Forgiveness, IMHO, has to be deserved. She's very manipulative, but that doesn't work on me. She even asked me a couple of years ago if I trusted her and I said "NO". She wanted to know why and I simply answered "Do you really want me to tell you". She didn't. So that is one reason I can only forgive her soul and not her acts. She is unable, partly doesn't want to, does not want to admit to her portion of responsability, etc.

As for my father, he died in 1988 in a car accident. I ended up blasting him every once in a while, like a prayer. I finished by having some peace when I learned later on in life that he was implicated in the resistance during World War II. It stunned me that a pre-teen was implicated. This was confirmed by living relatives. They were surprised that I was not aware of it. Things made sense. I was, still am, a strong headed person, I would have thrown that in his face for the times he didn't have any faith in me, and yet I was assuming some great responsabilities as a child and teen. I have often said that my father lost his hair because of the strong headed daughters he had.

And yes, there are some family members that I have absolutely no contacts with. I can forgive their souls, but NEVER will I trust them as they have hefty personality disorders. Worse than my mother's problems.
 
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