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My dog died today

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We lost our Jack Russell at the end of last year. He was 9 but being a little Jack Russell in Rural Australia very interested in snakes when they were around. I wasn't home when he got bit, but I know my guy has guilt, as did his other owner, because we share-cared him for our neighbor (he was a domestic abuse victim that moved in with us because he fixated on my guy). They didn't realise until it was too late, because after a brown snake bite, they can seem ok for up to 12 hours before they slowly become paralysed. We were all devastated and grief stricken. I nursed him in my arms for a couple of hours before we got him to the vet.
 
Hon, there is nothing weak about you. And yes others have lost their furbabies.. But this one was YOURS. I also have a rescue dog that reminds me a lot of your baby. she is very needy, and I also feel she has doggie PTSD from neglect and mistreatment.. After I had to put my girl down, and the house was too damned quite, I went next door where my girl lived. I just came out and asked them for her. She would be tangled up and have no water in our terrible heat.... wasn't being fed.... it just broke my heart. I am a cat person... but this sweet little girl has made a huge impact on my life... They gave her to me... and we had a long road at first... she was so sweet but had food aggression from not being fed regularly... it took awhile for her to realize she would always have food... and a warm bed, and not be left in the heat or the cold... she is sooo sweet... and I am going to be devastated with the loss of her sweet energy when it is her turn to leave...

So, please allow your self to miss your sweet friend... they leave huge hole in our heart and life when they leave... so spending more time with your other dog will help both of you to heal... You are not weak, You are a human who took in a little life that had no voice.... and she left knowing she was the best dog ever and was so loved... a beautiful gift you gave her by giving her a chance...

Yes it hurts... but that lets us know how full of love WE are... and sometimes when the PTSD is bad,,, we can remember how much love we had to give, and was able to give it to a living creature that needed it and appreciated it... That sounds like strength and love to me... so happy she had you all this time... sending tender hugs for you loss and empty spot in your heart...
 
laded-that sounds so familar. Your words are so comforting and is a good description. She started out so fearful and left knowing she was special and loved. She gave me a chance too!

Oddly, after she passed around 4am after watching her breathing labored and being unable to move, I slept peacefully. Then last night it was horrible. Her not being in my bedroom was heartbreaking. Yesterday the funeral people picked her up to be cremated. I didn't want to let her body go....and that made me feel crazy. They were very sensitive and I had my last moments with her. I will try to remember your wise words when feeling bad. Thats what my daughter has told me too, that if we hadn't taken her, who knows what her life would have been or how short. She was loved....I was loved....We rescued each other.

Thank you for your words and for your hugs ladee (hugs) back to you.
 
I really like what @ladee has had to say and agree with her whole-heartedly. They teach us love; our own capacity to love and be loved etc..

I feel guilty about a young cat ("Millie"), that I lost due to my being unable to afford appropriate, needed, health care....I gave her up to a shelter where she may have been saved or possibly euthanized. I told the lady at the shelter that she was a stray and I never knew her fate. She had what felt and looked like tumors or growths along her inner thighs. The lady at the shelter said they would assess her temperament and her illness and make a decision from there.

I hope she had a benign illness and was saved because she was the sweetest cat!!! She would meow at you if she heard you sneeze as if to say "Bless you." My father used to kill my pets in front of me when I was a small boy and I hated that, ....so, I developed a deep love for my Millie!!!

She was family and I was very protective of her. No one was going to hurt my cat!!!! Still, In the end I could not save her. To this day, I mourn for my loss and remember all the love and good, happy times I shared with her. She was a major blessing to me. I guess I lost her about 5 years ago.

Anyways I am so sorry for your loss @brat17 it is devastating and my heart goes out to you!!!

Prayers for you both and may you always remember your blessed moments together, with love and happiness in your heart!!!

Sincerely,
Lion
 
Lionheart, I am so sorry for your loss of Millie. They sure do teach us love. They love us unconditionally. They don't care about much so long as we take care of them. Just can't stay mad at them no matter what they do. Ive never had cats, but dogs are so loyal till the end.

Its been a week now and getting a little bit easier. My older dog that is almost 12 is sleeping more. She kept him more active. So now I am trying to do that. My daughter brought her 2 young dogs over for the first time on Sunday. They wore mine out. At first he acted upset but soon they were playing and he loved it. One of her big dogs is coming to stay this friday until Wednesday while they attend the Boston marathon. Im glad to keep her and this should be interesting.

When I start that crappy thinking of what I could have done differently or analyzing what caused it, I am catching myself and stopping that thinking.

Thank you for your thoughts.
Brat
 
Lionheart, I am so sorry for your loss of Millie. I've never had cats, but dogs are so loyal till the end. Thank you for your thoughts.

Thank You so much brat!!! Cats each have their own personalities much like dogs do and Millie was a sweetheart, very playful, very affectionate, and loved to stay close in touch with another human...usually me or my mom. The day Millie left I said, " I love you Millie," and she said "Meow" as if to answer me. :inlove:

I am glad you are catching your 'crappy thinking' as you say, and are remembering the love and happy times. I believe we will reunite with them again some glorious day and that they are a blessing to be treasured, always.
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Gentle healing hugs,
Lion
 
My living dog is a chocolate lab and 11.5 yrs. He is also grieving the loss of our other baby who passed 2 weeks ago. My daughters 2 yr old dog came to stay with me for a few days and both dogs keep sniffing at the gate to the alley. Then I realized both of my dogs had been doing that for a couple weeks before she passed.

Just a couple weeks before my baby became sick, there is a man I ran into that I dated and it ended badly. I spoke to him and told him I was sorry for any harm that I caused and he "very insincerely" said its "all good". However, his neighbor afterwards threw some bait out there that he had spoke about me, then didn't want to say what he said, but sounded a bit threatening. The guy always said that he was Hungarian and they never loose. He was hell bent on that 4 yrs ago.

I considered this after my baby's first seizure like episode, then told myself that nobody could be that cruel. Since the dogs keep going to this gate, it is really making me wonder about things. Then I remind myself that all people are not so cruel and it is my own crazy talking, that even he would not do such a thing....that I am just not accepting my own grief. (I do think I have a need to have an explanation for everything that happens). Does anyone else do this? My heart is so heavy to begin with, but to think that I brought the wrong person into her life is killing me, just at the possibility.
 
@brat17 first off, I am so sorry that your dog passed. I had mine for 16 years and he was bitten by a snake. I still miss him and I think I always will. I too worried about the what if's but it just made my grief worse. It doesn't bring them back. I think when we have PTSD we may be prone to the what if strategy. So be aware of that type of thinking. I had a few other big close calls with my dog and I understand what it feels like. The loneliness...all that. I get it. Hugs to you!

Regarding the possibility of poisoning. As far as I am aware a Vet will pick those signs up very quickly. The first time you took your dog in to be assessed there would have been very acute symptoms of bait being used. He would have told you and recommended you report it. No Vet will even begin to suspect poison and not tell you.

If a Vet suspects poison/baiting they will hammer you with questions about food, open packets of rat-sack anything that may have accidently led to the poisoning and then start treatment for it asap.

There are a few symptoms that show up very quickly with poisoning or baiting. It sounds as if your Vet was on the ball and diagnosed your dog correctly.

Some symptoms of baiting are things like the gums go extremely pale. Excessive drinking and slobbering. Heart-rate will go up dramatically and the dog may be over-excited. It's quite an acute event. Also there most likely would be bleeding in the faeces or urine. (Depending on the bait of course).

From having seen a dog poisoned with bait and what you have described it really does sound like some sort of cerebral event that was effecting your dog.Seizures and brain things in dogs can go completely unnoticed for a very long time and then even seem to resolve but then return and take the dog.

Cerebral events or disorder in puppies are much more obvious. In old dogs, just like people they can be largely unnoticed. The strange gait and collapse part of your description definitely seems to indicate a cerebral/seizure type of malady.

And the treatment and costs and the pain of not being able to let go. I don't know that they do any good in the end. All dogs will suffer terribly with cerebral events and the fact that he walked away from you...this is a very clear indicator (from growing up with lots of dogs and animals) that they sense they are going to die and tend to go alone. As if they are saying I am going ahead...I will see you there when it is your time. I can only pray I have the grace to be so calm about it when my time comes to be just like that.

A dog that get's baited is very touch and go right from the outset. Your dog appeared to recover without treatment for being baited. That is generally a sign that it is not bait.

Your dog lapsed (or had the first 'event'), rallied and then re-lapsed. I cannot know for certain but I am sure your Vet could put your mind at rest on this @brat17. He would have looked for the most obvious symptoms first and baited dog symptoms are hard to miss. Give him a call if you feel up to it.

I grappled with the why...even when I knew exactly what caused my dog's death. I was grief stricken. Really inconsolable. It still brings tears to my eyes. I blamed myself for letting him go and lay down next to his favourite tree in the garden - without checking first that there was no bloody snake there! (However I had never once checked for snakes at any other time in his life!) This was the grief talking. I had no reasonable expectation that a snake would bite him there at his tree. In fact more than likely he's come across lots of snakes that just slithered away.

I think your Vet is correct. It doesn't make it any easier but I'd go with that.

As for your ex friend. Leave that alone for now. You are reacting and searching within grief. Completely understandable but keep a rein on anything like accusing. If this nags you too much. Ring your Vet and see what he says if only to give you a sense of comfort.

Again I am so sorry.
 
blackemerald1- Thank you so much for helping me straighten my thinking out. You have so much information about poisoning that is vague on the internet. My vet only told me that poisoning is less common than thought, and my dog was not a threat or nuisance, which are the kind of dogs that do get poisoned usually.

You explained more about what the symptoms of poisoning are like than anybody has.

While a snake bit is a clear cut cause of death, I can see how you grappled with this also. The "whys" and "what ifs" when the fact is that your dog had the freedom to lay under that tree his entire life and do what dogs do. I would much rather my fur baby get to life a good life even if it is shorter than protecting them from everything they love. I am so sorry you have had to experience this too. I am sorry for all that have lost their animals.

You are right, the last thing I need to do is accuse anyone. Even with some vague threat, I have to believe that most are not capable of such an act.

I do think I need to take my older dog for a vet visit. He just had a yearly and shots but it was during the episodes with my other baby and the day she got staples out. The vet was almost an hour late and having 2 dogs there was so stressful that I lost track of the things that I wanted to discuss about this one....gingivitis (he had surgery last fall for growths), to check his ears well because he has been flipping them, and if he is having hip pain. Frankly, he got a half ass check up-nobodies fault. But he just barks at me sometimes and I don't know what he wants. He acts like he wants to play but is old and will only chase a ball 1 time. Now after her death, I find myself checking him to see if he is breathing. I notice he is sleeping more. Anyway, when I take him maybe I will get further relief too from a discussion with vet.

Ptsd sure doesn't make life easier in any way.

Thank you so much for talking me through this.
 
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