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Narcissistic personality disorder and ptsd

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I've been accused of being a narcissist but I only have cPTSD. I know sometimes when we are symptomatic we can appear narcissistic... but there's a huge difference between being one and having occasional tendencies toward narcissism. You'd know a full blown narc if you met one... Ugh. Horrible people
 
@littleoc thanks for your reply, it was just a general question.. I was reading up on PTSD a little and the thought just came in to mind x

@Supervixn thabk you for replying. Can I ask how may seem to be narcissistic when it’s just being PTSD symptomatic? If you want, maybe you can share some experiences? X
 
Pete Walker says that the fight part of fight/flight/fawn/freeze is narcissism.

Ok, so I highly respect him, but no, just no. At least for me. I understand he’s got a theoretical model, but it doesn’t apply to everyone. He says that for those who fight, power and control create safety. That’s not me. I’m more of the fight so you get the f*ck away from me type.

Just to clarify, Pete Walker talks about CPTSD.
 
I think I seem narcissistic because I don't know how to talk to people and I avoid them. I also can't express emotions facially very well. I have a hard time understanding what people are actually getting at when they speak to me because I've been verbally picked apart passive aggressively my entire life. I really feel like I'm weird and not normal enough to be around other people and then I get super frustrated by it and angry. Maybe That's a good example of how PTSD looks like narcissism? Hell, I might be one. Idk.
 
Seriously, when I read about narcissistic personality disorder, I see nothing of me in that. I sure as shit see a whole lot of my abuser's qualities, but I think he had something wrong with him beyond just that.

You could combine several different types of narcissist from the subtypes, and there'd still be more f*cked up shit to add. That's why I think what he had going on was a whole different monster. No idea what the f*ck was wrong with him and I'm not going to play guessing games, because there's just flat out no way to know. You can't figure out what someone has going for sure on unless they get a professional diagnosis, and he never was honest enough to the professionals to get the right treatment for whatever was -actually- wrong with him. He just manipulated them to get out as fast as possible.

I think that our symptoms could be confused for narcissistic behavior. When I isolate, I'm doing it because being out in the world and interacting with people is overloading me, or I am too anxious/hypervigilant to be subjecting myself to all sorts of things that will set off my danger alarm, when it's being really sensitive.

If I'm not feeling like that, and things are going relatively well enough, I don't isolate.

People who don't have PTSD, at least in my experience so far, seem to have a difficult time understanding us, and what our behavior is really being caused by, and what it really means. People can very easily misunderstand what we are trying to communicate. They take things the wrong way.
 
Thank you all. So much love to you all. You guys are stars for sharing your experiences and opinions.

Im learning alot about PTSD and its mainly from this amazing forum and everyone who is so willing to share.
 
It’s becoming very vogue to label people as narcissists. Actually, it’s normal for people (ptsd or not) to have symptoms associated with personality disorders. Lots of people fear being abandoned - that’s normal. Doesn’t mean we all have Borderline Personality Disorder, yeah?

I met a guy in hospital once who was there because of NPD. Only person I’ve ever met that’s actually been diagnosed with it. And honestly? It looked nothing like ptsd. He was delusional about the special talents he had and all the great things he was gonna do for the world. And far from being the ‘vogue’ narcissist? He was absolutely harmless. And it was incredibly sad to get to know him. Not an easy condition to treat.

For every single person wandering this earth? We are the centre of our own universe. That’s just how it is. Sometimes, people get caught up too much in that. Especially if they have a mental health issue (like ptsd) causing them massive and chronic distress. Doesn’t make them narcissistic.

“They always think about themselves, and they never think about how they impact me and my feelings...Narcissist!” Well, yeah. How many people on this planet wander round in a constant state of contemplation about “How am I effecting everyone else???” Not many. That would be a pretty dysfunctional way to live.

It’s actually pretty normal for people to put their own needs first. Healthy even. It’s also normal to have characteristics of different personality disorders. Narcissism is very chic right now - it’s the insult de jour, labelling someone difficult a narcissist. But NPD? Not very common. And for people who have it? Where it’s so pervasive that it’s interfering with their ability to function on a basic level? Doesn’t have any particular overlap with ptsd.
 
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It’s becoming very vogue to label people as narcissists. Actually, it’s normal for people (ptsd o...
Wait, that's narcissistic personality disorder?

I'm still thinking of the man-turned-flower that Echo the nymph tried to love... am I confused by ancient history, or...?

I was under the impression that delusional things like that weren't narcissistism... I'm not currently looking it up, though, because at the very least I'm interested in your take on this. Is my psychopathic dad not a narcissist by that definition? Because he was obsessed with himself to an unhealthy degree, such as not realizing what kids could or couldn't be exposed to. He was diagnosed narcissistic..? I think?

He went through trauma, but he came out insane, never with PTSD though.
 
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